Sharp-Eyed View of a Mohajir

I saw a photo of Dawood Ibrahim and his moustaches and sunglasses immediately reminded me of Tafa Londonwalla!

fmshah,

MQM and Pathan both are aliens in Karachi. But why Pathans are taxi drivers, watch man and waiters whereas most of Clifton, DHA villas, Business Houses and Industrial Units on II Chundrigar Road, Site and Mall Road (Shahrah Faisal) are owned by migrants from Gujrat/India.

So what? Delhi too is a city of migrants- one lot from West Punjab (who are wealthy lot) and the other lot from Bimaru, WB and BD (who are the labour class). That is becuase the immigrants from India/W Punjab are more intelligent and qualified than the immigrants from Pukhtoonkhwa/Bimaru etc.

Rather than be resentful of the Mojos you shud admire their hardwork and talent else you guys wud have been clueless of how to cope with the workings of a modern state and professions like banking, business etc. in 1947 after the local Hindoos/Sikhs left.

Regards

And I know that Punjab bashing is the most favourite hobby of some Mohajirs. Before these mohajirs blame Punjab they should not forget that the Mohajir always worked hand in glove with Punjabis to exploit other ethnic group.

Re: # 41

I am unable to understand why did the self-centred Muslim Salariat of UP struggled for an independent Muslim in spite of knowing very well that their areas will not be a part of the new Muslim state and they will always remain 'immigrants' if they migrate to Pakistan.

I also want to know Muqaddam saheb what azaab has fallen on the mohajirs in Pakistan that they now need to look towards India for their survival, at least the Mohajirs like me don't feel marginalized in Pakistan. And even if I agree with your assertion of Mohajirs being marginalized in Pakistan I would say that if these mohajirs have an iota of self-respect they will prefer to drown themselves in the Arabian sea instead of looking towards India for their survival, unless, of course, you have forgotten the political role your forefathers played in the first half of the last century.

It is a pity that the Mohajir community which took the lead role in carving out an independent state for the Muslim population of the subcontinent should now feel marginalised in Pakistan and look towards India for their future survival. The whole concept of Pakistan is now really sounding hollow and events are proving it. In any case one doubts if many people would shed tears if Pakistan really came apart.
In the first place the Pakhtoons under Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan never wanted to secede from the Indian union, so they would not mind rejoining India that is if they do not want to go to Afghanistan. The Sindhis who have been the worst hurt and are otherwise Sufi in outlook like it in India, the Baloch are waiting to declare independence. That leaves belligerent Punjab which may represent the rump Pakistan, thanks to the heavy enrollment in the Pakistan army from this provnce. Given their proximity to India one wonders this otherwise bellicose group would stand up to the might of India.
Only time will tell.

MQM's is always busy in marketing/spreading lies, hypes, violence and hates. This thing is not an exception and it is not a surprise. Mustafa Kamal has always come across as a 'Sales Man'. He spends more hours of the day giving interviews to print and electronic media than doing actual development work. At same Altaf Bhai will be delivering telephonic lectures on War on Terror and Talibanization. Karachi (1/10th of Pakistan) is under MQM's siege (bunch of Idiots) and with the level of support MQM enjoys from Establishment goons any one can make marvels. Mustafa Kamal simply bulldozes any opposition and is a self indulging idiot who claims to 'know-it-all'. Lately he has been busy spreading hate against poor Pashtun migrant workers in order to bambofying Pathans from every corner of Land of Pure Cartels from Tribal Areas to Karachi for pleasing his Masters in UK/US. Claiming that poor Pathan workers (mostly watch mans, taxi drivers etc) have a Master Plan to take over Karachi. As if Karachi (once a small Sindhi town i.e. Mai Kulachi, Lyari ) has not been taken over by outsiders/aliens already? He issue ethnic statements in USA about Karachi. If such statement would have been given by anyone else he would be declared Bugti and tried in this Land of Pure Cartels for challenging the writ of state and treason. Since 1947, Karachi a city of Sindh has gradually become Sindhi-less city, if compared with Lahore, Peshawar, Quetta.

Karachi has almost equal composition of all major ethnic group of Pakistan. Urdu, Punjabi, Pathan, Baluch, Sindhi each ethnics group has almost more than 2 million souls. However cultural, political, business and economically dominating class in Karachi are only those who are aliens, settled, migrated from other areas particularly Gujrat/India. The resistance against Gawader project from Baluch ethnic group is also based on fears of unfair practices done during past fifty years to Sindhis in Karachi.
Lyari (Composing of Sindhis, Pathan and Baluch) which was actual Karachi will always remain slum, as if it is never ever part of Karachi. Similarly disparity and contrast can also be found between actual 70 % rural Pakistan and British era Metropolis cities like Pindi, Lahore, Queta, Karachi composing of Mall Roads, Saddar, Societies, DHA, etc. The decision making elite of these Metropolis is less 1 % of the whole Pakistan population of 180 Millions. This all is result of colonial policy of state patronage of imposing minorities/aliens over majorities/locals and cultural homicide treatment to majority even after partition. Karachi explains exactly why Pakistan is taken over by Autocrats and Establishment. Pathan, Baluch and Sindhi will live with each other in peace in Interior Sindh, whereas in Karachi, there will be always violence and bloodshed of Sindhis and Pathans . The violence and TT culture, we see in Karachi, can’t be seen in other cities like Lahore, Queta, Pindi, and Peshawar. This sort of violence and TT cluture can also be observed in Indian Movies and Bombay.

I always wonder
Why our Free Media never dare to discuss MQM fake claim of 2nd best mayor the way they discuss and create justification and support for ethnic cleansing of Pathans under the label of WOT and name of Taliabn/Alqaeda. Every bomb blast is accepted by some mysterious Mullah/Talib sitting in cave in Tribal Area (Swat, North/South Waziristan). Leaving aside US Drone attacks, all killed by Jet PAF Jets Bombers and Army Heavy Artillery are always terrorist? How many such occurrences have been investigated? How many bombs blast have been preemptively avoided/intercepted?

I always wonder
After Army operation (spanning for couple months) against Boriband culture in Karachi Army Chief is poisoned to death, President along with Prime Minister are sent home whereas whole Govt is packed up. Why Army operations (spanning over years) against Bengalis (1970/71), Baluch (1974/75), Sindhis (1980s) and Pathans (WOT) is not followed by same consequences.

I always wonder
MQM and Pathan both are aliens in Karachi. But why Pathans are taxi drivers, watch man and waiters whereas most of Clifton, DHA villas, Business Houses and Industrial Units on II Chundrigar Road, Site and Mall Road (Shahrah Faisal) are owned by migrants from Gujrat/India.

Punching Note
Meritocracy is social science concept, which equates various educations streams and merits in various societies to cast system, where structured tests etc are used as merit tool to favor few and deprive majority from opening/opportunities for educational and work roles/occupations. Performance in these tests mostly depends on geographic location and social conditions in early life and childhood.

Re: # 36

Mahesh ji itske it you know about Sachar Commitee .There is detils of it in Googlw but i will highlight the finding about muslims being lower than Other Backward class OBC thats the lowest rung even in the prosperous majority ihdian non muslims








"Main findings of the report
The entire Sachar Report is available for download at various websites.[6]

Some findings are as follows: A.. ..The information regarding the Scheme has not adequately percolated down. Even if the share of Muslims in elected bodies is low they and other under represented segments can be involved in the decision making process through innovative mechanisms.
Most of the variables indicate that Muslim-OBCs are significantly deprived in comparison to Hindu-OBCs. The work participation rate (WPR) shows the presence of a sharp difference between Hindu-OBCs (67%) and the Muslims. The share of Muslim-OBCs in government/ PSU jobs is much lower than Hindu-OBCs. "

Islamization is for individuals, to perform and be able to perform as a Muslim without discrimination and equality however the actions are a Muslim's own responsibility not of the state as long as it provides an environment of equality and does not commandeer individuals to perform.
If Muslims perform in accordance to the basic principal requirements of their faith that automatically provides Islamization of the state while other than only ritualistic practices a Muslim is expected to be balanced and modest in all other aspects of life and in dealing with others regardless of their faith.
Hence if Muslims are loyal to their own faith in all manners an Islamized state is imminent and shall provide for all its citizens without distinction of their faith.

Re: # 4
I would very much like to hear about what Karachi was like and what all was there in Karachi before August 14, 2008.

Re: # 32

Sirji, people who migrated to Pakistan would have done well even if they had stayed back in India.

The well educated and wealthy muslims moved to Pakistan where they could readily fill in the void left behind by migrating Hindus and Sikhs.

The people who were left behind in India were the poorest of the lot and it does take a lot to improve your lot when you are the bottom of the food chain.

Muslims worse than Dalits? This is new to me.

Re: # 31 Dialogue
MashaAllah I like your high spirits, most certainly agree with you and admirably so since I have several good Punjabi, Pathan, Sindhi, Balochi and Bengali friends even though I come from a "Mohajir" family.
Keep it up Dialogue if we have more people with such spirits eventually there will have be better days ahead whether we live to see those or not.

#29 Posted by krbhatti
The transplantation of mango varieties is the most welcome aspect of this development.

Bhatti sahib I wish you had edited out the above from your post as it is the most cruel mention.
I grew my own mangoes and bananas at home, some of the best as I consider it to be and in abundant volume so that my household and several neighbors admired it.
Now I live in a region where I am deprived of mangoes in their real sense, if there is taste there is no aroma and if the aroma of a quality mango is there, there is hardly any taste or texture, but I will manage with or without mangoes other than a rubbing mention.

"What's done is done. It's time to move on."
Its been a long time to have moved on but its never too late even if the move started today.
The Bareli you mention was also the hometown of my grandfather who was from that core which founded the Muslim League and "drafted" the Quaid, however their dreams did not come true in the manner envisioned by those people in that era.
God only knows if it was good or was not good, therefore I conclude that despite all the sacrifice its time to let the begone be bygones and seek the rising of another sun, a new day and another new future, away from where the vision did not come true.

Re: # 22
Mahesh ji
celebrities Kahns in movie Cricket premji President kalam have done very good ,Pakistan as some said was not about religion but about political clout
.To greater extent the migrants on both sides and at both ends East Pakistan ^& West Pakistan have been more successful at least in the first generation This fact b/c they filled in the vacuum created .
Sachar commite finds Muslims of India lower than Dalit .The migrant to Pakistan definitely better off.same goes for migrant coming out of 'parosi mulk'.

No matte ho hard our life have been owe it to our mother land .if you were forced to leave for Pakistan for Shelter
Be Thanful for that shelter

atleast.you are in more prosperous country which is better than india & pakistan both

i am a punjabi AND i love mohajirs. i love the fact that they have organized to politically protect their rights. but if you look at the number of guns and goons in mqm, you would be surprised - and i dont love that.

those who were born in pakistan are not migrants. cuz they live in the land of their birth. THEY CAN CALL THEMSELVES MOHAJIRS IF IT HELPS THEM, I WONT HAVE A PROBELEM WITH THAT EITHER.

the problem is not mqm. the problem is altaf hussein. the mqm haqeeqi and all others who have tried to represent mohajirs have been crushed by ALTAF BHAI. PLEASE KEEP IT POLITICAL.

Re: # 29

Eventhough it warmed my cockles to read Irfan Hussain's article it does me no good.

I will truly rejoice only when Pakistanis give up on Jehad and mind their own business. There is no point dreaming of a federation of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

What's done is done. It's time to move on.