Mohammad Gill December 18, 2008
#445 Posted by nkg on January 7, 2009 11:19:44 pm
Re: # 442
BJ...
Does Obama's office keeps photograph of MAJ as well?
BJ...
Does Obama's office keeps photograph of MAJ as well?
#443 Posted by majumdar on January 7, 2009 9:29:55 pm
Masadi sahib and Beej bhayya,
You have both championed the cause of black people on chowk. And Masadi sahib has always denounced the white elite. Here is what Gandhiji had to say about black people and white people.
On Black people:
(The Boer Government insulted the Indians by classing them with the Kaffirs. Now there is no occasion to perpetuate a needless insult.)
(Apart from whether or not this implies degradation, I must say it is rather dangerous. Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilized -- the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty, and live almost like animals. Each ward contains nearly 50 to 60 of them. They often started rows and fought among themselves. The reader can easily imagine the plight of the poor Indian thrown into such company)
On white people:
(They admit the British race should be the dominant race in South Africa.)
Regards
You have both championed the cause of black people on chowk. And Masadi sahib has always denounced the white elite. Here is what Gandhiji had to say about black people and white people.
On Black people:
(The Boer Government insulted the Indians by classing them with the Kaffirs. Now there is no occasion to perpetuate a needless insult.)
(Apart from whether or not this implies degradation, I must say it is rather dangerous. Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilized -- the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty, and live almost like animals. Each ward contains nearly 50 to 60 of them. They often started rows and fought among themselves. The reader can easily imagine the plight of the poor Indian thrown into such company)
On white people:
(They admit the British race should be the dominant race in South Africa.)
Regards
#442 Posted by bjkumar on January 5, 2009 7:05:22 pm
Barack Obama on the influence of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi on his ideas and actions.
October 2, 2008
Gandhi Service Day
Dear Friends,
It's a pleasure for me to join today in commemorating Mahatma Gandhi's day of birth, celebrated across America and around the world by service to our neighbors and other good works. Gandhi's commitment to creating positive change by bringing people together peacefully to demand it resonate as strongly today as they did during his lifetime. Through the power of his example and his own unshakeable spirit, he inspired a people to resist oppression, sparking a revolution that freed a nation from colonial rule. In formulating his strategy to achieve freedom, Gandhi had a choice, and he chose courage over fear.
America faces many choices as we work to address the challenges of our time. We must act from a place of strength and conviction to reclaim the high road and position of moral leadership that has defined the United States at its best.
Gandhi's significance is universal. Countless people around the world have been touched by his spirit and example - his victory in turn inspired a generation of young Americans to peacefully wipe out a system of overt oppression that had endured for a century, and more recently led to velvet revolutions in Eastern Europe and extinguished apartheid in South Africa. Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., spoke of their great debt to Gandhi. His portrait hangs in my office to remind me that real change will not come from Washington - it will come when the people, united, bring it to Washington.
This is a pivotal election. This is our time for change. For far too long, we've watched as ordinary Americans work harder and harder for less and less. We've watched our standing in the world erode as we continue to lose American lives in a war that should've never been authorized and never been waged. I need you to stand up and work for change. Let us all rededicate ourselves, every day from now until November 4th, and beyond, to living Gandhi's call to be the change we wish to see in the world.
Sincerely,
Barack Obama
October 2, 2008
Gandhi Service Day
Dear Friends,
It's a pleasure for me to join today in commemorating Mahatma Gandhi's day of birth, celebrated across America and around the world by service to our neighbors and other good works. Gandhi's commitment to creating positive change by bringing people together peacefully to demand it resonate as strongly today as they did during his lifetime. Through the power of his example and his own unshakeable spirit, he inspired a people to resist oppression, sparking a revolution that freed a nation from colonial rule. In formulating his strategy to achieve freedom, Gandhi had a choice, and he chose courage over fear.
America faces many choices as we work to address the challenges of our time. We must act from a place of strength and conviction to reclaim the high road and position of moral leadership that has defined the United States at its best.
Gandhi's significance is universal. Countless people around the world have been touched by his spirit and example - his victory in turn inspired a generation of young Americans to peacefully wipe out a system of overt oppression that had endured for a century, and more recently led to velvet revolutions in Eastern Europe and extinguished apartheid in South Africa. Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., spoke of their great debt to Gandhi. His portrait hangs in my office to remind me that real change will not come from Washington - it will come when the people, united, bring it to Washington.
This is a pivotal election. This is our time for change. For far too long, we've watched as ordinary Americans work harder and harder for less and less. We've watched our standing in the world erode as we continue to lose American lives in a war that should've never been authorized and never been waged. I need you to stand up and work for change. Let us all rededicate ourselves, every day from now until November 4th, and beyond, to living Gandhi's call to be the change we wish to see in the world.
Sincerely,
Barack Obama
#441 Posted by bjkumar on January 5, 2009 6:53:23 pm
I'm inspired by Mahatma Gandhi, says Obama
Agencies Posted: Feb 23, 2008 at 1553 hrs
Washington, February 23: Barack Obama, Democratic front-runner for the US Presidential nomination, sees Mahatma Gandhi as an inspiration and has a portrait of the apostle of peace in his office to remind him that ordinary people can do extraordinary things.
"In my life, I have always looked to Mahatma Gandhi as an inspiration, because he embodies the kind of transformational change that can be made when ordinary people come together to do extraordinary things," he wrote in a yet to be published article in the ethnic India Abroad newspaper.
"That is why his portrait hangs in my Senate office; to remind me that real results will not just come from Washington, they will come from the people," he said in the article, excerpts of which were provided in a write-up on Friday.
That is why, he said, "I am proud to have the longstanding support of so many Indian Americans in all aspects of my campaign (for party nomination for the post of the President), as well as the endorsements of leading elected Indian American lawmakers."
#440 Posted by masadi on January 5, 2009 2:02:38 pm
Give manto a chance and he'll jump at bringing Gandhi into the discussion and you know why this dimwit does it? Because on the global scene Gandhi has totally and completely stumped his god MAJ, that is the only reason he is pissed off at Gandhi. He does not care about Black people or the fact that BHO took black folk for granted singing the white song all over the campaign. He doesn't care about that or the fact that as objective fact his god MAJ considered the white man worthy of emulation even as he talked the Muslim talk, he walked the White walk. He is not at all concerned with truth because the moron is an immoral dimwit, the kind of profile that fits all upstart wannabes in Pakistan.....
Have a nice day and get a brain you moron,
TNITC masadi
Have a nice day and get a brain you moron,
TNITC masadi
#439 Posted by pinku on January 5, 2009 9:58:53 am
#428 Posted by tahmed32 on January 4, 2009 5:19:59 am
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dost mittar: and your expressions of hurt at my negative (and certainly part of the truth about india, and certainly illsutrated regularly by pandit-hates like jay thakeray and arjun) portrayal of india would be more convincing if you saved your sarcasm about "moral compass" to these scoundrels who stand on a moral platform and crow about the real life killings of innocent people in pakistan and demonstrate their spite-filled little mindsets.
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tahmed,
See first thackeray is not Pundit. Second you as well as others know very well what India is and what Pakistan is, even if you ignore Indians (around 1 billion), you still have more than 4 bilion whom you will have to convince about your idea of great Pakistan that Jinnaha created. I can say lot more to do Pakistan bashing, nothing is enough for people who hate their own forefathers, their own history and who deceive people for almost nothing??? Deception for a religion, one that can be insulted in so many ways and in such a great degree??? One which you have to protect with all kind of lies???
#438 Posted by pinku on January 5, 2009 9:51:18 am
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testing to see if chowk is no more threatened by my presence... they banned my comments,,, good for chowk...
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testing to see if chowk is no more threatened by my presence... they banned my comments,,, good for chowk...
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#437 Posted by jayp on January 4, 2009 11:25:51 pm
Helping pakistan- sound advice to help pakistan.
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"The Indus River System Authority (Irsa) has also been asked to restart the release of water to pump up hydroelectric power generation, sources said.
The emergency meeting on Friday failed to bring immediate relief to consumers, a massive demand-and-supply gap being the core reason. "
The above is from jang of today. No doubt pakistan has an electricity generation problem, and there is a significant amount of petroleum baed generation mix, comprising heavy fuel oil to light diesels. The primary target should be to improve the utilisation of these generators. Hydro power is multi dimensional and it is the most versatile. The out put of hydro can be varied easily, can be started and stopped easily and water that flows through it has further utility. At this time of teh year water in the down stream is unlikely to be used for irrigation and as such generating hydro power now is politically sound but is economically foolish.
Advice givenm free by a good hearted indian as there are no pakistanis of suitable competance.
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"The Indus River System Authority (Irsa) has also been asked to restart the release of water to pump up hydroelectric power generation, sources said.
The emergency meeting on Friday failed to bring immediate relief to consumers, a massive demand-and-supply gap being the core reason. "
The above is from jang of today. No doubt pakistan has an electricity generation problem, and there is a significant amount of petroleum baed generation mix, comprising heavy fuel oil to light diesels. The primary target should be to improve the utilisation of these generators. Hydro power is multi dimensional and it is the most versatile. The out put of hydro can be varied easily, can be started and stopped easily and water that flows through it has further utility. At this time of teh year water in the down stream is unlikely to be used for irrigation and as such generating hydro power now is politically sound but is economically foolish.
Advice givenm free by a good hearted indian as there are no pakistanis of suitable competance.
#436 Posted by MantoLives on January 4, 2009 10:13:37 pm
Barack Hussain Obama... Just how far the world has come from the time when racist casteist hindu fascist bigot Mahatma Gandhi was calling Black people inferior and of lesser racial stock than other human beings.
What a slap really on the real Gandhi's face (not the hollywood one though).
What a slap really on the real Gandhi's face (not the hollywood one though).
#435 Posted by masadi on January 4, 2009 4:54:53 pm
Dick the sob Cheney is at his best again.......lying
"Vice President Dick Cheney said Israel "didn't seek clearance or approval from us" before pushing into Gaza."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_pale stinians
My gut tells me that he will be sharing the same cell in hell with Hamid and Kulharee....
"Vice President Dick Cheney said Israel "didn't seek clearance or approval from us" before pushing into Gaza."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_pale stinians
My gut tells me that he will be sharing the same cell in hell with Hamid and Kulharee....
#434 Posted by masadi on January 4, 2009 11:07:22 am
tangnazar writes "People are looking up to him to say something. He surely would have spoken before getting elected president"
Mian jee I wrote in my Barack Conspiracy piece before the Nov elections that nothing will change and it wont. Obama cannot say a word against Israel. Israel is the Power Elite's baby placed in the ME in order to control the region, it has no independant existance or purpose other than that, and Obama works for the Power Elite....
Have a nice day and get a brain,
TNITC masadi
Mian jee I wrote in my Barack Conspiracy piece before the Nov elections that nothing will change and it wont. Obama cannot say a word against Israel. Israel is the Power Elite's baby placed in the ME in order to control the region, it has no independant existance or purpose other than that, and Obama works for the Power Elite....
Have a nice day and get a brain,
TNITC masadi
#433 Posted by bittersweetmojo on January 4, 2009 11:03:32 am
#432
Mr. Gill,
Thanks for expressing honestly your signs of soon-to-be a disillusioned Democrat and Obama-fan!
I am with you against Israeli onslaught in Gaza.
Mr. Gill,
Thanks for expressing honestly your signs of soon-to-be a disillusioned Democrat and Obama-fan!
I am with you against Israeli onslaught in Gaza.
#432 Posted by azadkhayal on January 4, 2009 9:01:14 am
Joe Biden's (veep-elect) comments that Barack Obama's presidency will be tested within six months of his assuming power, seem prophetic. He hasn't assumed presidency yet that Israel's ruthless and bloody aggression in Gaza is staring in Obama's face.
He has said it a couple of times that the U.S. has only one president at a given time. However, the situation in Gaza is so grave that his silence is indeed deafening. People are looking up to him to say something. He surely would have spoken before getting elected president.
Israel's ruthless and extremely well-equipped army is inflicting inhuman devastation on the Gazan civilians and the whole world is watching helplessly. Obama's silence regrettably underlines Simon Tisdale's comment, "Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he is in."
In his comments (guardian.co.uk), Tisdale quoted Obama, "I will make clear that we are not at war with Islam,...," and wrote, "As the Gaza casualty head count goes up and Obama keeps his head down, those sentiments are beginning to sound a little hollow. The danger is that when he finally peers over the parapet on January 21, the battle of perceptions may already be lost."
Mohammad Gill
He has said it a couple of times that the U.S. has only one president at a given time. However, the situation in Gaza is so grave that his silence is indeed deafening. People are looking up to him to say something. He surely would have spoken before getting elected president.
Israel's ruthless and extremely well-equipped army is inflicting inhuman devastation on the Gazan civilians and the whole world is watching helplessly. Obama's silence regrettably underlines Simon Tisdale's comment, "Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he is in."
In his comments (guardian.co.uk), Tisdale quoted Obama, "I will make clear that we are not at war with Islam,...," and wrote, "As the Gaza casualty head count goes up and Obama keeps his head down, those sentiments are beginning to sound a little hollow. The danger is that when he finally peers over the parapet on January 21, the battle of perceptions may already be lost."
Mohammad Gill
#431 Posted by Eklavya on January 4, 2009 7:02:54 am
createalpha, neither tahmed32 nor akcheema represent 'jihadi apologists.' Just the opposite, in fact.
These are identity conflicts, not jihadi-non-Jihadi ones.
These are identity conflicts, not jihadi-non-Jihadi ones.
#430 Posted by dost_mittar on January 4, 2009 6:18:00 am
tahmed saheb:
You do not have to repeat that what you said is true. After all, I am here and I do know. This is why I agreed with you. And believe me, what you write does not hurt me. Thanks anyway for your concern about my presumed hurt feelings.
You do not have to repeat that what you said is true. After all, I am here and I do know. This is why I agreed with you. And believe me, what you write does not hurt me. Thanks anyway for your concern about my presumed hurt feelings.
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