Civil Society Pleads for Peace
Beena Sarwar January 17, 2009
#79 Posted by hamidm2 on January 20, 2009 12:34:57 pm
Re: # 78
bj mian,
.... now that you have refreshed my memory, i will make sure that i do send in a contribution to mr towns - he seems to be a good man who is not easily fooled by the simian antics of gandhiji and his followers ..........
mr. towns zindabad !
bj mian,
.... now that you have refreshed my memory, i will make sure that i do send in a contribution to mr towns - he seems to be a good man who is not easily fooled by the simian antics of gandhiji and his followers ..........
mr. towns zindabad !
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#78 Posted by bjkumar on January 20, 2009 12:14:56 pm
Re: # 77
Surely Hamidm2 miaN, your memory has not failed you THAT much!
Mr. Towns is the (House of Representatives) gentleman from that sacred, Pakistan-like, borough of Brooklyn, NY -- the borough having a sizeable Pakistani-origin segment of population. The gentleman has distinguished himself by occasionally loosening tirades against Gandhiji in the House and also by slipping in two-pager write-ups with the same topic headers (allegedly drafted by our Khalistani bhai's in the Land of the Free) into the Congressional Records.
As Chowk records are my witness - you (yes, YOU!) promised to make -- in full view of the chowkies, a sizeable contribution to his campaign coffers right on this web-site -- a promise that you most likely forgot, in the light of your statement in #77 that you have no idea who he is. (I have a tough time believing that you would have actually sent money to somebody if you have no idea who that somebody is!)
That's the problem with you Pakistanis -- you promise the moon, but when it comes to delivery time, all we get from you is...
"Who, me?! I have no idea what you are talking about!"
Surely Hamidm2 miaN, your memory has not failed you THAT much!
Mr. Towns is the (House of Representatives) gentleman from that sacred, Pakistan-like, borough of Brooklyn, NY -- the borough having a sizeable Pakistani-origin segment of population. The gentleman has distinguished himself by occasionally loosening tirades against Gandhiji in the House and also by slipping in two-pager write-ups with the same topic headers (allegedly drafted by our Khalistani bhai's in the Land of the Free) into the Congressional Records.
As Chowk records are my witness - you (yes, YOU!) promised to make -- in full view of the chowkies, a sizeable contribution to his campaign coffers right on this web-site -- a promise that you most likely forgot, in the light of your statement in #77 that you have no idea who he is. (I have a tough time believing that you would have actually sent money to somebody if you have no idea who that somebody is!)
That's the problem with you Pakistanis -- you promise the moon, but when it comes to delivery time, all we get from you is...
"Who, me?! I have no idea what you are talking about!"
#77 Posted by hamidm2 on January 20, 2009 12:00:39 pm
Re: # 75
bj mian,
.... i hate to admit it, but i still have no idea who mr towns is? ..... my congressman is some yahoo named gary peters
bj mian,
.... i hate to admit it, but i still have no idea who mr towns is? ..... my congressman is some yahoo named gary peters
#76 Posted by bjkumar on January 20, 2009 10:11:34 am
Re: # 74
[if only the hyderabadis would start a movement to reinstate the nizam]
I am sure old Harish will hold them back mightily.
BTW, talking of the Hyderabad nizaam, I was looking at the old map of his estate and one can only marvel at the genius of Patel/Nehru. When we think of Hyderabad today, we pretty much think of the city -- no big deal. But back then, the nizaam's estate pretty much included most of South India. I think it was a smart move to divvy it up. It reminds me a bit of the Louisiana purchase and then creating the state of Louisiana.
[if only the hyderabadis would start a movement to reinstate the nizam]
I am sure old Harish will hold them back mightily.
BTW, talking of the Hyderabad nizaam, I was looking at the old map of his estate and one can only marvel at the genius of Patel/Nehru. When we think of Hyderabad today, we pretty much think of the city -- no big deal. But back then, the nizaam's estate pretty much included most of South India. I think it was a smart move to divvy it up. It reminds me a bit of the Louisiana purchase and then creating the state of Louisiana.
#75 Posted by bjkumar on January 20, 2009 10:05:59 am
Re: # 74
[nothing would please me more than to see the madrassa and madrasi forces kill each other...]
miaN, your khaki bhaizaans were thinking along the same lines. They failed.
BTW, how come Mr. Towns does not come to town any more?! Or at least does not go on anti-Gandhiji tirades? Have you been fulfilling your campaign contribution pledges in a timely manner?
[nothing would please me more than to see the madrassa and madrasi forces kill each other...]
miaN, your khaki bhaizaans were thinking along the same lines. They failed.
BTW, how come Mr. Towns does not come to town any more?! Or at least does not go on anti-Gandhiji tirades? Have you been fulfilling your campaign contribution pledges in a timely manner?
#74 Posted by hamidm2 on January 20, 2009 9:55:27 am
Re: # 73
bj mian,
.... actually, both ..... nothing would please me more than to see the madrassa and madrasi forces kill each other if we could keep the damage confined to madras ........ come to think of it, it might be possible to raise a million man army from deoband and hyderabad to keep the madrasi army tied down south of the godavari river ...... if only the hyderabadis would start a movement to reinstate the nizam .....
bj mian,
.... actually, both ..... nothing would please me more than to see the madrassa and madrasi forces kill each other if we could keep the damage confined to madras ........ come to think of it, it might be possible to raise a million man army from deoband and hyderabad to keep the madrasi army tied down south of the godavari river ...... if only the hyderabadis would start a movement to reinstate the nizam .....
#73 Posted by bjkumar on January 20, 2009 9:43:55 am
Re: # 72
[has nothing to do with my love and compassion for the madrasi forces ]
MiaN, you mean Madrassa forces!
[has nothing to do with my love and compassion for the madrasi forces ]
MiaN, you mean Madrassa forces!
#72 Posted by hamidm2 on January 20, 2009 9:36:14 am
Re: # 70
bj mian,
.... i agree with you that pakistan should be supporting, training and arming indigenous kashmiri freedom fighters instead of 'slipping in jihadis' ....... this is to avoid the horrible 'blowback' in pakistan and has nothing to do with my love and compassion for the madrasi forces ......
bj mian,
.... i agree with you that pakistan should be supporting, training and arming indigenous kashmiri freedom fighters instead of 'slipping in jihadis' ....... this is to avoid the horrible 'blowback' in pakistan and has nothing to do with my love and compassion for the madrasi forces ......
#71 Posted by allah001 on January 20, 2009 6:21:04 am
hamidm is absolutely right.
Kashmir has been lingering for too long. We need to resolve it and move on. Lets make the LoC as the International Border and go our ways. India will not ask for "Azad Kashmir" and Pakistan will stop whining about the Indian part of Kashmir.
Kashmir has been lingering for too long. We need to resolve it and move on. Lets make the LoC as the International Border and go our ways. India will not ask for "Azad Kashmir" and Pakistan will stop whining about the Indian part of Kashmir.
#70 Posted by bjkumar on January 20, 2009 6:20:16 am
Re: # 66
Hamidm2 janab, forget Kashmir. Consider yourself lucky if you can hold on to Swat!
What you guys really need are a bunch of Pakistani patriots who will (1) put the well-being of the awaam BEFORE the well-being of their fattened waist-lines, (2) respect the mandate of the elections -- treat the civilian leaders as their bosses rather than their lackeys, (3) fight like a man, man-to-man, instead of slipping in bunches of jihadis, (4) accept your dead soldiers as your own and accord them all the due honors and recognitions that are due to all dead soldiers everywhere in the world!
That's the type of Pakistani patriot that's needed -- not the current crop in khakis!
Hamidm2 janab, forget Kashmir. Consider yourself lucky if you can hold on to Swat!
What you guys really need are a bunch of Pakistani patriots who will (1) put the well-being of the awaam BEFORE the well-being of their fattened waist-lines, (2) respect the mandate of the elections -- treat the civilian leaders as their bosses rather than their lackeys, (3) fight like a man, man-to-man, instead of slipping in bunches of jihadis, (4) accept your dead soldiers as your own and accord them all the due honors and recognitions that are due to all dead soldiers everywhere in the world!
That's the type of Pakistani patriot that's needed -- not the current crop in khakis!
#69 Posted by chaltahai on January 20, 2009 6:15:50 am
When ur army trained terrorists kill Indians...because of kashmir or gujarat...it is our problem. And it is gonna be solved by putting up more dams up river, exacerbating the talibam takeover of your civil society and watching pakistan turn into afghanistan or somalia. But kashmir, you will never have....you frankly don't deserve it and have shown urselves to be poor administrators and even worse citizens. So there!
#68 Posted by bjkumar on January 20, 2009 6:11:57 am
Re: # 62
DM-jee, you probably know the answer as well as anybody else. The situation in Pakistan and in some other countries is not conducive to an outright declaration of the kind that you desire. It is all fine and dandy to make such pronouncements from North America, though I doubt that one could do it from India, either. Scribes, like janitors, simply try to do the best that they can under a given set of constraints.
DM-jee, you probably know the answer as well as anybody else. The situation in Pakistan and in some other countries is not conducive to an outright declaration of the kind that you desire. It is all fine and dandy to make such pronouncements from North America, though I doubt that one could do it from India, either. Scribes, like janitors, simply try to do the best that they can under a given set of constraints.
#67 Posted by hamidm2 on January 20, 2009 6:09:28 am
Re: # 66
...... i just noticed a freudian slip - ttracks! ........ i would like to trademark that term for indian railroad tracks ..... any objections?
...... i just noticed a freudian slip - ttracks! ........ i would like to trademark that term for indian railroad tracks ..... any objections?
#66 Posted by hamidm2 on January 20, 2009 6:07:40 am
Re: # 65
bj mian,
.... aw shut up! ... you know what i am talking about - kashmir ...... all the other nonsense that you are spouting has nothing to do with the horrible hindoos - that is for us pakis to sort out among ourselves..... it would be like telling you guys that you have to solve your core problem of providing toilets for 500 million people - it is none of our business if you guys like to squat on railroad ttracks .....
bj mian,
.... aw shut up! ... you know what i am talking about - kashmir ...... all the other nonsense that you are spouting has nothing to do with the horrible hindoos - that is for us pakis to sort out among ourselves..... it would be like telling you guys that you have to solve your core problem of providing toilets for 500 million people - it is none of our business if you guys like to squat on railroad ttracks .....
#65 Posted by bjkumar on January 20, 2009 5:57:18 am
Re: # 63
Yes, miaN. The talk of improving relations between Pakistan and India shall remain a lot of nonsense unless and until the core issues of (1) Pakistani khakis running a reign of dictatorship on the hapless Pakistani awaam -- both directly and through their Taleban proxies, (2) Pakistani Punjabis running rough-shod all over the three other Pakistani provinces, (3) Pakistani khakis using terrorism as state policy, and (4) Pakistani politicos (despite electoral mandate) having jelly-like spine and vigorously boot-licking those khaki boots, remain!
So miaN, I am in agreement with you. Do let us know when you guys START addressing the core issues. I am sure it may happen sometime in the Twentyfirst Century.
Yes, miaN. The talk of improving relations between Pakistan and India shall remain a lot of nonsense unless and until the core issues of (1) Pakistani khakis running a reign of dictatorship on the hapless Pakistani awaam -- both directly and through their Taleban proxies, (2) Pakistani Punjabis running rough-shod all over the three other Pakistani provinces, (3) Pakistani khakis using terrorism as state policy, and (4) Pakistani politicos (despite electoral mandate) having jelly-like spine and vigorously boot-licking those khaki boots, remain!
So miaN, I am in agreement with you. Do let us know when you guys START addressing the core issues. I am sure it may happen sometime in the Twentyfirst Century.
#64 Posted by chaltahai on January 20, 2009 5:50:16 am
India should do nothing. Let these pakis go down wth the Taliban....time is on India's side. Core issue is a stupid argument to make when your only negotiating power is terrorism....which in the end hurts you more than your victims.
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