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Civil Society Pleads for Peace

Beena Sarwar January 17, 2009

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#47 Posted by nkg on January 18, 2009 10:57:10 pm
Re: # 46
ahmed...
have you seen the consequence of jihad from Pakistan as well as some section of Pelus?
India lost nothing from its position in 1948. Pakistan lost 1/2 of its territory and now the country and its people are favourite object hate and dislike accross world...Arabs also achieved nothing from 1948, rather than loosing land......
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#46 Posted by ahmedmadani on January 18, 2009 8:15:00 pm
Re: # 44 Mr. B.Tullah is smart man and warrier. He has declared support and ready to send his fire power against India and Isreal and has got good publicity. Now army is not going to do that so army looses in reputation which mr.B gets free credit without firing a shot. All wars have propagamda to inspire troops. But Hammas should not send rocket to israel as Isarael is India.They need to change policy as now they are popular but if this happens all time they can loose popularity. Also looses slowly intensity of feeling in hearts of Awam.
Good day
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#45 Posted by harish_hyd on January 18, 2009 8:09:55 pm
#36 by bittersweetmojo

aik tu aap kaley hain, dosrey aap ki zaban bhi kali hai!

Bhai/Behen, being kala ranks way higher than being a Paki. After all, wasn't Prince Harry pulled up for calling a co-cadet a Paki?

Come up with your figures, I will accept them. Aap bataein tu sahi! :)

B!atch, google it up and leave the Paki sources out. You will get the right figure.

Well, they get paid for this by Americans. But you spend your poor people's tax money, wasting it in fact.

If it helps flush the valley out of you Puki terrorists, I will be willing to pay double the tax that I'm paying now. And if it helps screw Pakistan more (read cleanse Pakistan out of the vermin that abounds there), I'm sure Americans will be willing to pay you more.

uff allah...safety tu dekhein zara...whatever-lakh forces kyun rakhi hain if your part of valley is SAFE. :)

Target practice. As you might be aware, there are a lot of your compatriots sneaking in to create mischief. The Indian army, in order to keep its forces in operational readiness brings them to the valley to get some practice. The cheapest way if you ask me :)

Kya matlab! :)... Doesn't your part of valley get connected with other areas, Champoo?

B!atch, only, we don't bring in settlers from other parts to out-populate the locals.

Arey consulates ko ghaas kon dalta hai! We believe in cut-throat business! Don't mess with us. :P

Sure! No wonder the Taliban cut the throats of any Paki soldier foolish enough to venture out of their bunkers. And guess what the consulates do? Prop up the Taliban to cut Paki fauji throats.
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#44 Posted by nkg on January 18, 2009 7:48:33 pm
Re: # 29
ahmed...
you guys need to grow up...
Israel is surrounded by 6/7 islamic neighbours, who should take care of Pelu-Israel matters....even India is now withdrawing from the scene. Let the arabs and EU ( rance, Italy, Britain...) should decide on the matter...
What the heck these Baitullahs will do in Israel?...they will rather make the life of ordinary Pelus, worse....
I am sure Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and Syria is not helping the cause of Pelus...they are just using them to keep the fight going on...Pelus has to realise it.....
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#43 Posted by nkg on January 18, 2009 7:43:46 pm
Re: # 37
bsm..
bast***...
your father was pleading to Indian soldiers to spare your mom's c*** in 1971....and you are talking about slapping etc...
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#42 Posted by _arjun52 on January 18, 2009 6:49:24 am
didn't I say the same thing...a plea for peace won't get india anywhere..it needs to do all it can to kill as many pakis as possible...because the only good paki is a dead paki

Non-violence can't tackle terror: Dalai
The Dalai Lama, a lifelong champion of non-violence on Saturday candidly stated that terrorism cannot be tackled by applying the principle of ahimsa because the minds of terrorists are closed.

"It is difficult to deal with terrorism through non-violence," the Tibetan spiritual leader said delivering the Madhavrao Scindia Memorial Lecture here.

He also termed terrorism as the worst kind of violence which is not carried by a few mad people but by those who are very brilliant and educated.

"They (terrorists) are very brilliant and educated...but a strong ill feeling is bred in them. Their minds are closed," the Dalai Lama said.

He said that the only way to tackle terrorism is through prevention. The head of the Tibetan government-in-exile left the audience stunned when he said "I love President George W Bush." He went on to add how he and the US President instantly struck a chord in their first meeting unlike politicians who take a while to develop close ties.
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#41 Posted by vakibs on January 18, 2009 6:20:32 am
Civil society needs to be represented in the parliament and power should be brought down to people. Until then, no amount of noise that "civil society" makes will be heard.
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#40 Posted by _arjun52 on January 18, 2009 5:20:16 am
allah-o-fubar...pure islam comes to the land of the pure

Taliban’s deadly ‘justice’ cows Pakistan
Sharia judges are ordering beatings and executions as punishment for cases of 'immoral activity'

Daud Khattak, Peshawar

FORCED face first into the dust and pinned down by three men in black hoods, a young offender faced the merciless force of Taliban justice in Pakistan last week as he was beaten 30 times with a hard rod fashioned from old car tyres.

The punishment – for smoking cannabis – was inflicted in front of a silent crowd of approving bearded men and curious young boys in the North West Frontier Province village of Ser Talergram, a few miles from the once-popular ski resort of Malam Jabba.

In the nearby village of Dherai, three men in their thirties, Amjad Ali, Sarar Ali and one named only as Manai, were publicly lashed by armed, hooded Taliban policemen for drug dealing. Scarred by the beating, one of the men was so humiliated that he would no longer leave his home.

More than 70 Taliban courts are now ruling on hundreds of cases of “immoral activity� every week in the Swat valley, whose mountains, lakes and meadows were once a draw for tourists.

As insurgents vie for control of the area and impose sharia (religious law), harsh punishments are meted out for smuggling, using drugs or selling alcohol.

For women, refusal to wear a veil and dancing in public are punishable by death. The lesser charge of using a musical ring-tone can lead to the confiscation of the offending mobile phone or a hefty fine.

The Taliban’s reign of terror has prompted a series of advertisements in local Urdu newspapers from petrified Swat residents trying to renounce their offences to avoid brutal punishment. “I’ve stopped selling drugs and decided to earn my living by manual labour. In future, I won’t conduct un-Islamic business. Also, I’ll not use drugs,� said an advert published in a local Urdu paper by Nasirul Mulk, from Swat’s capital, Mingora.

The Taliban recently warned faith healers through their pirate radio station that they would face retribution if they did not stop “un-Islamic� practices. Yesterday a faith healer was found beheaded near Peshawar.

Other inhabitants endure the cruel consequences of the new hardline morality code. In Swat’s Mangalwar village, one man arrested for smuggling fell unconscious during a beating, but his tormentor insisted on carrying on until he had received all 30 lashes.

The 71 Taliban courts operating in the Kabal, Matta, Khwazakhela and Charbagh districts of Swat amount to a parallel legal system. Their judgments on finance, land disputes, smuggling and narcotics are arbitrary and handed out by self-proclaimed Taliban judges with scant legal or religious knowledge.

Taliban informers spy on people alleged to be breaking Islamic law, who then receive a three-day warning to shut their business. Most obey instantly, but anyone defying the order is arrested by armed Taliban and dragged to court for a summary trial the next day.

One Taliban judge in the Kooza Bandai region boasted that he had ruled on 55 cases in the past week. Almost all the decisions are verbal and there are no formal procedures.

The emergence of a parallel Taliban legal system has a sinister objective. “This is our first step towards the implementation of sharia in Swat,� said Muslim Khan, a Taliban spokesman. In the next phase, Khan said, the courts would begin to carry out harsher punishments, such as execution or chopping off hands.

Villagers said the Taliban were already killing people who defied their orders. “They didn’t even spare barbers and women coming out of markets without wearing their veils,� said a Mingora resident.

There have been 51 Taliban executions since the start of the year, he added. The victims include politicians, security men, dancers, prostitutes and shopkeepers selling alcohol.

Swat is not the only region now subject to Taliban justice. A fortnight ago a group of militants declared sharia in the Hangu district of the North West Frontier Province. The next day four men accused of robbery, their faces tarred, were paraded through a market on donkeys.

Other groups are also determined to deliver their own form of justice. Near the Khyber Pass, close to the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, the militant group Lashkar-e-Islam publicly executed two people for killing a taxi driver. The accused were blindfolded and paraded before a crowd chanting, “God is great.� Two bearded men then opened fire and killed them with a burst from AK-47 rifles.
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#39 Posted by truth_seeker54 on January 18, 2009 4:38:06 am
#36 Posted by bittersweetmojo

"arey arey, ab kuch dhang ka keh dijiye ga jawab main, if you have a thing called MIND!"

How funny, you think you have given 'dhang ka jawab' to his statements!!


"Well, they get paid for this by Americans. But you spend your poor people's tax money, wasting it in fact. Be pragmatic!"

Well, this is height of shamelessness. You want somebody else to pay salary to your army and yet feel great about it! Indian tax payers did not complain to their money being used to pay salary to their soldiers. What is itching you?

"aik tu aap kaley hain"

The colour of skin is geographical phenomenon. We do not feel guilty about it. At least we know that our grandmothers did not get raped by Arabs and Mongolians. In fact we feel sorry that the people in your part of the world were worst sufferers at the hands of the invaders. Look at the height of shamelessness! You are so proud of your contaminated blood. Your ancestors must have been sharp brained Aryans. Just look at the standard of intellect you have, thanks to those Arabs!

We are a civilized society in India who believe that the appearance, colour of the skin, level of intelligence etc are the gift of the nature and one should not use this fact to humiliate others. You never know when your so called good looks would vanish. Anything can happen. You may meet with an accident, some musla terrorist or pervert may throw acid on your face...anything.

YOU HAVE TO COIN DIFFERENT WORDS LIKE 'KALA', HORRIBLE' ETC WORDS TO DESCRIBE INDIANS. BUT IN YOUR CASE THE ORD "PAKI" EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.
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#38 Posted by laddu on January 18, 2009 4:02:12 am
Madani Saheb,

Please join in your Palestinian brothers and the Mehsuds and make claim to your Shahadat!!!
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#37 Posted by bittersweetmojo on January 18, 2009 2:15:38 am
#35
nkg,

arey wah...tu who is arguing with you. I was merely slapping you guys! :D

wo kehtey hain na humarey Lucknow main...."latton k bhoot baaton se nahi mantey". Precisely said for you kalay Indians. :)
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#36 Posted by bittersweetmojo on January 18, 2009 2:13:06 am
#34
Harish bhaya...

aik tu aap kaley hain, dosrey aap ki zaban bhi kali hai!

check this out!

"7 lakh is a figure pulled out by your govt from its a$$. Come up with an independent source."

Come up with your figures, I will accept them. Aap bataein tu sahi! :)

"It is the Paki army that is caged in the tribal areas."

Well, they get paid for this by Americans. But you spend your poor people's tax money, wasting it in fact. Be pragmatic!

"the valley is safer than ever before lakhs of tourists having visited the place last year."

uff allah...safety tu dekhein zara...whatever-lakh forces kyun rakhi hain if your part of valley is SAFE. :)

"Sure. With Punjabis all around them, what is there for the Kashmiris to fear?"

Hain!! Kya matlab! :)... Doesn't your part of valley get connected with other areas, Champoo?

"If you think 7 consulates are too many, wait till we get a few more."

Arey consulates ko ghaas kon dalta hai! We believe in cut-throat business! Don't mess with us. :P

arey arey, ab kuch dhang ka keh dijiye ga jawab main, if you have a thing called MIND!
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#35 Posted by nkg on January 18, 2009 12:30:09 am
Re: # 33
bittersweet...
I am too supporter of Independent XXX...but then there are certain rules to be followed....If you are Paki then there is no point arguing it...4 wars means the scope of argument is no more available...
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#34 Posted by harish_hyd on January 17, 2009 11:54:23 pm
#33 by bittersweetmojo

you are forgetting the presence of 7 lakh forces in Kashmir.

7 lakh is a figure pulled out by your govt from its a$$. Come up with an independent source.

Doesn't it strike you as to how ISI and Pak Army caged you there virtually with the help of militants.

Hahaha! It is the Paki army that is caged in the tribal areas with soldiers advised to move around in civilian clothes. Can it get any more humiliating than that? OTOH, Indian soldiers move around in their uniforms and the valley is safer than ever before lakhs of tourists having visited the place last year.

Besides, our side of Kashmir is pretty fine. I visited the valley last year.

Sure. With Punjabis all around them, what is there for the Kashmiris to fear?

And on Kashmir, yes this nation stands united. Proxy war yaad hai na! :)

Haan, kyun nahi! The proxy war that is bleeding the Paki army in the frontier where your bahadurs are scared to get out of their bunkers. If you think 7 consulates are too many, wait till we get a few more.
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#33 Posted by bittersweetmojo on January 17, 2009 7:35:32 pm
#24
Anjun bhayya,

you are forgetting the presence of 7 lakh forces in Kashmir. Doesn't it strike you as to how ISI and Pak Army caged you there virtually with the help of militants. Besides, our side of Kashmir is pretty fine. I visited the valley last year.

For your information, I am a firm supporter of Independent Kashmir movement. Would never like to let them merge with Pakistan, which I know they never will. :) Great, nai?

And on Kashmir, yes this nation stands united. Proxy war yaad hai na! :)
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#32 Posted by jayp on January 17, 2009 5:11:13 pm
BATRA: What I believe is that during the next several years, many companies, especially small ones will not survive. But if this company does survive, it should do very well when things turn around.

TAYLOR: Although you do not paint a very bright future for America as we head into a new millennium, you do hold out great hope that once America suffers through a devastating economic and perhaps social decline, things will get better. In chapter nine you say the following. "Soon after the stock market crash, a democratic revolution at the ballot box will catapult the United States into a golden age that will eclipse the reign of wealth in politics, establish a truly free enterprise economy, end permissiveness, and bring now discarded spiritual values back into fashion. Then will dawn a brilliant day, quickly sweeping across the world, the beginning of a thousand years of righteousness, compassion, and innate goodness on earth. The darker moments in human history will finally succumb to the nobility inherent in each and every one of us. It could take another thirty-year cycle before the new age sprouts in its all-encompassing effulgence, but come it will."

??????????????

Some good news. The above quote is from Ravi Batra , depression of 1999. He seem to have predicted the rise of obama.
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