Obama Inauguration Brings Hope, Scepticism

Re: # 154

nb,

... sorry, i don't believe you guys ..... i have seen "indiana jones and the temple of doom" so i know how savage you guys really are ...... also, my grandmother used to say that hindoo sadhus kidnap muslim babies to appease kali's lust for blood ....... that's all the proof i need

HamidM2, I just wanted to let you know there are no Hindu and Muslim water taps in India now, so that wouldn't have been a problem anyway.
Back to Obama...

tahmed,

... i suggest that you go back and read the history if tnsm - in the 1990's they were driving on the wrong side of the road in malakand division (which included swat, dir and chitral) to defy 'british' laws ....... like i said, this cancer has been fesstering for many many years - 1430 years to be exact ..........

Re: # 151

Ajeya, you idiot! In ANY community, if one looks for it, one can always find examples of bad people and bad deeds. It is a simple fact of history that Islam initially came to the subcontinent through aggressors. But that does not mean that aggression translates into a common characteristic of all people of the Muslim faith in the subcontinent.

In a pluralistic India, one needs to work on bonding the aspirations of all its people -- and work on the common good. It is a mistake (and perhaps a malicious act) to imply wholesale culpability on a community.

#147 bjkumar

[The real crime was to cast that common evil into a communal mold -- ]

Yup. Moslems were non-communal before Jinnah. Jinnah made them communal. Without Jinnah, they would be cuddly little furballs.

hamidm #140 your confused view of reality is getting worse too: you seem to think that the current state of affairs in swat were there all along.

Re: # 140 Mr. H Sir, Kindly write simple. When you wrote Mrs.Zardari I had confusion in mind. Mrs Bhutto tried for short cut to ride tiger by freeing him. Short cuts always lead to calamity and this trick of freeing and riding tiger killed her.
Good night.

#143 hamidm2

And his arguments hold even more water when we see how HIndus are treated in Pakiland, in contrast - 2nd class citizens, no rights to attaining many high offices, vilified in school textbooks, and so on...

Re: # 143

hamidm2 miaN, I do not wish to speak bad of your late dad. But he was mistaken. And you are doubly mistaken to buy his line hook line and sinker -- because you have more information accessible than he could ever have imagined.

There is nothing in what he said that could not have been used (with some changes) by Sri Laloo Prasad Yadav to express how his ancestors suffered as a result of the caste system! Or by the present day Dalits in India! Or by the Jhugiwalas of the "Slumdog Millionare"! It is merely one depiction of the mentality of exclusivism which is the characteristic of racism/communalism/casteism, etc. (No, Laloo became Chief Minister WITHOUT moving to Pakistan!)

The real crime was to cast that common evil into a communal mold -- and it was done by the Jinnah -- and in that crime, he was aided and abetted by the generational members of your dad (may his soul rest in peace!) There is no possible way to absolve him and his likes -- there are merely "explanations"!

However, your late dad was perhaps right on the spot in addressing you as "Arrey bewakoof!"

#143 hamidm2

[bjkumar,

... please don't misquote my father (god bless his soul) ..... this is what he really used to say (thunder):

"bewakoof! tum nahin jantay hindoo baniye ki asliyat ! ..... hum nay who zamana dekha hai kay jub hum railway station par pani bhi nahin pee saktay thay ! .... agar quaid-i-azam na hotay to tum aaj gadhay chara rahey hotay!" ]

Your father was obviously an unbiased Muslim and an intelligent man. He correctly predicted how Muslims would be treated in a future India, as exemplified by Dr. Abdul Kalam, Shah Rukh Khan, Amir Khan, Pataudi, Azim Premji and so on...

#144

Dude, what are you saying? Indians is to Pakis is equivalent to..ANTIBIOTICS is to Bacteria?!!!!

ROTFL!!! Good one! Gotta note it down for future use.

I shall be taking my leave of this site till the noise dies down :)

#141 bjkumar

[Ajeya, feel free to jump into Manto's bed!

I must caution you though, it might be a bit crowded, with Majumdar and Hamidm2 already having grabbed their respective spots. Most of the space is, however, taken by the skeletal remains of the Dead Man Jinnah himself!]

bj,

I know you feel a bit different than most Indians, having a Muslim girlfiend (if I remember correctly). But facts are facts - you have to credit the great man with draining a whole lot of pus.

bjkumar,

... please don't misquote my father (god bless his soul) ..... this is what he really used to say (thunder):

"bewakoof! tum nahin jantay hindoo baniye ki asliyat ! ..... hum nay who zamana dekha hai kay jub hum railway station par pani bhi nahin pee saktay thay ! .... agar quaid-i-azam na hotay to tum aaj gadhay chara rahey hotay!"

The funniest part is look at who they picked. I mean this dude He Yafei...

From the same article

" This comes as no surprise to India as Pakistan’s close proximity with China is being regularly used on the diplomatic turf. It be recalled that India refused to entertain Mr He in September when he sought audience with the Indian leadership...."

I have to admit, in spite of all the crap that goes on here, I feel bad for people like TAhmed and even a little sorry for that puffedup, pompous nincompoop Romair

Re: # 139

Ajeya, feel free to jump into Manto's bed!

I must caution you though, it might be a bit crowded, with Majumdar and Hamidm2 already having grabbed their respective spots. Most of the space is, however, taken by the skeletal remains of the Dead Man Jinnah himself!

Re: # 134

tahmed mian,

.... your dementia is getting pitiful .... benazir zardari cut a deal with sufi mohammad (fazlullah's father-in-law) and legalized/institutionalized sharia law in swat in 1994 ....... how do you delegitimize islam once it has been legitimized?