Shantanu Dutta January 23, 2009
#239 Posted by akcheema on February 5, 2009 11:48:31 pm
... as for the masadi-mills love affair ... 'andhay ke haath mein batair waali baat hai' ... he has found something to talk about, therefore he'll continue to say the same thing over and over like a demented parrot
... hard to know who is 'the blind' in the equation though
... hard to know who is 'the blind' in the equation though
#238 Posted by akcheema on February 5, 2009 11:42:53 pm
Re: # 218; hamidm sahib
I am a fan of Dawkins too ... most of his thoughts are 'my own' as it were ... only he expresses them much better than I ever could!
Religious indoctrination of children is a major issue in my opinion ... the so called 'search for the truth' a lot of people (especially from a muslim background) seem to do, often results in a 'reaffirmation' of the same (the ideology of their upbringing) in later life
... that is why we don't discuss anything to do with religion/god etc in our household ... and that hasn't led us to moral bankruptcy, as sometimes thought of in religious circles
the 'fight' has been difficult, to say the least, on many fronts though!
I am a fan of Dawkins too ... most of his thoughts are 'my own' as it were ... only he expresses them much better than I ever could!
Religious indoctrination of children is a major issue in my opinion ... the so called 'search for the truth' a lot of people (especially from a muslim background) seem to do, often results in a 'reaffirmation' of the same (the ideology of their upbringing) in later life
... that is why we don't discuss anything to do with religion/god etc in our household ... and that hasn't led us to moral bankruptcy, as sometimes thought of in religious circles
the 'fight' has been difficult, to say the least, on many fronts though!
#237 Posted by nkg on February 5, 2009 7:41:00 pm
hammidm2...
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/No-money-from-PoK-so-no-a pples-Kashmiris/419704
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/No-money-from-PoK-so-no-a pples-Kashmiris/419704
#236 Posted by guru on February 2, 2009 8:15:42 am
Sorry correction:
The correct count for Bakiland is 0.8 female homicide per 100K of population.
Same figure for India is almost 1/10 th of Bakiland.
The correct count for Bakiland is 0.8 female homicide per 100K of population.
Same figure for India is almost 1/10 th of Bakiland.
#235 Posted by guru on February 2, 2009 7:44:37 am
Slumdogs are more in Londanabad and Washington-dad. Per 100K of population 232 homicides of women happened in 2008 in Washington DupliCity. Even for Bakiland the women homicide count for 2008 did not exceed 80 per 100K of population. Physician cure thyself first!
#234 Posted by nkg on February 1, 2009 10:03:49 pm
mr. Sant....
"Other film makers have thought and acted differently. Satyajit Ray being the most well known of them. He used films to portray the stark realities of Indian society – the poverty, the corruption and the decadence of a country in transition. Ray was a lot more than a chronicler of penury and hardship; his films made money, won praise and gave Indian films their first visibility on world stage...."
Satyajit Ray has picked up the novel from Bibhuti Bhusan Bandyapadhyay...Story about poor brahmin family is nothing new in India (if you have read stories from Purana)... Ray did not pick up the novel to show poverty,rather it was a literary masterpiece and he was successful to large extent in converting the movie in celluloid....
"Other film makers have thought and acted differently. Satyajit Ray being the most well known of them. He used films to portray the stark realities of Indian society – the poverty, the corruption and the decadence of a country in transition. Ray was a lot more than a chronicler of penury and hardship; his films made money, won praise and gave Indian films their first visibility on world stage...."
Satyajit Ray has picked up the novel from Bibhuti Bhusan Bandyapadhyay...Story about poor brahmin family is nothing new in India (if you have read stories from Purana)... Ray did not pick up the novel to show poverty,rather it was a literary masterpiece and he was successful to large extent in converting the movie in celluloid....
#233 Posted by nkg on February 1, 2009 7:20:28 pm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5621482.ece
Look, how paki beduinoid bast**** are damaging GB...
breeding like mosquitoes....
Look, how paki beduinoid bast**** are damaging GB...
breeding like mosquitoes....
#232 Posted by nkg on February 1, 2009 7:14:18 pm
Re: # 228
VRV...
I can not speak about Mumbai slums, but most of the housemaids in Bangalore sends their sons,daughters in English medium schools than spending that amount on good food...and our Govt. charges 2% education cess to educate children of poor people!!!!
VRV...
I can not speak about Mumbai slums, but most of the housemaids in Bangalore sends their sons,daughters in English medium schools than spending that amount on good food...and our Govt. charges 2% education cess to educate children of poor people!!!!
#231 Posted by CIAMASADI on February 1, 2009 3:50:05 pm
(1) Until the very last moments in 1945 ADOLF HITLER thought he was winning the war.
(2) The mindset of Punjabistan Terrorist Army (PUTA) and Punjabistan Terrorist ISI (PUTISI) is very similar. Rational arguments do not work with PUTA and PUTISI. They still think they are in charge and even worse they think they are even winning or making progress.
(3) Conventional wisdom has been that a stable Pakistan with current borders is good for peace in South Asia. Indies and Amrikis also have thought along those lines. But the reality is playing out otherwise. Thanks to #2 above, events seem to be in no one’s control.
(4) The activities of PUTA and PUTISI, more specifically their pursuit of terrorism and war mongering, are leading to unraveling of internal cohesion of Pakistan if there was any.
(5) The Republic of BALOCHISTAN which constitutes nearly 50% of land mass of Pakistan is the prime candidate. This is a new emerging country in South Asia, and is making Iran also nervous. The situation is likely to continue to deteriorate.
(6) Mr. ZARDARI -despite his past history of corruption- comes across as an emerging statesman. He speaks and conducts himself exceptionally well. Even though he had very little power to do anything, Punjabistanis are already blaming him for all sorts of failures….in no time of course.. What a friggin surprise. If MOHATARMA had been alive she would have met the same fate.
(7) PASHTUNISTAN is another sad story. Thanks to the propaganda of the PUTA and PUTISI, people elsewhere might have got the impression all Pashtuns are raging jihadis.
(8) The reality is there is NO PASHTUN NATIONALISTIC struggle against the foreign troops in Afghanistan. Rather a bunch of terrorists from Punjab, Arab countries, Central Asian republics etc are fighting for their own agendas and play havoc with the lives of ordinary Pashtuns. In the tribal areas all this is happening in connivance and collaboration with ….who else….PUTA and PUTISI..of course.
(9) USA and the international community have to think out of the box and start a new approach to solve the problems in South Asia.
(10) Strategic significance of Pakistan derived from its physical location should be severely undermined. Rapidly developing supply routes, economic lifeline for Afghanistan through Central Asian republics is critical to alleviate the choke hold Pakistan has had on Afghanistan for so long.
(11) Even though US has serious issues with Iran, India developing a supply route to Afghanistan through the new Iranian port will further help in achieving #10. US should not AND WOULD NOT discourage this development.
(12) Military aid to Pakistan should be entirely stopped. Aid to the civilian government should be tightly scrutinized to ensure it is strictly used for economic development and in installments based on how much Pakistan co-operates.
(13) The primary goal for the Afghan people SHOULD BE to establish a government in Kabul that truly represents the aspirations all the ethnic groups in Afghanistan. This is different from the goal of PUTA, PUTISI and Punjabistanis who primarily look at Afghanistan as their colony just like SINDUDESH, JINNAHPUR, BALOCHISTAN AND PASHTUNISTAN and would like to have some puppet government there even if that means they are Taliban terrorists.
(14) Finally, INDIES may not have much to gloat. They should be seriously worried about economy being affected by this holy mess. Indies should dramatically boost their technical capabilities, intelligence apparatus to fight terrorism and be prepared for the potential implosion of Pakistan into a mega-Afghanistan.
(15) MASADI. IN THE SERVICE OF AMERICA. IN THE SERVICE OF MASADI.
Dr. Masadi Moron
Director, Jihadistan Project
Co-ordinator, Under the Desk Delusion
CIA Headquarters
Langley, Virginia
EMAIL: moron_to_thepower_infinity@cia.gov
Ph-703-44-IDIOT
FAX-703-44-MORON
(2) The mindset of Punjabistan Terrorist Army (PUTA) and Punjabistan Terrorist ISI (PUTISI) is very similar. Rational arguments do not work with PUTA and PUTISI. They still think they are in charge and even worse they think they are even winning or making progress.
(3) Conventional wisdom has been that a stable Pakistan with current borders is good for peace in South Asia. Indies and Amrikis also have thought along those lines. But the reality is playing out otherwise. Thanks to #2 above, events seem to be in no one’s control.
(4) The activities of PUTA and PUTISI, more specifically their pursuit of terrorism and war mongering, are leading to unraveling of internal cohesion of Pakistan if there was any.
(5) The Republic of BALOCHISTAN which constitutes nearly 50% of land mass of Pakistan is the prime candidate. This is a new emerging country in South Asia, and is making Iran also nervous. The situation is likely to continue to deteriorate.
(6) Mr. ZARDARI -despite his past history of corruption- comes across as an emerging statesman. He speaks and conducts himself exceptionally well. Even though he had very little power to do anything, Punjabistanis are already blaming him for all sorts of failures….in no time of course.. What a friggin surprise. If MOHATARMA had been alive she would have met the same fate.
(7) PASHTUNISTAN is another sad story. Thanks to the propaganda of the PUTA and PUTISI, people elsewhere might have got the impression all Pashtuns are raging jihadis.
(8) The reality is there is NO PASHTUN NATIONALISTIC struggle against the foreign troops in Afghanistan. Rather a bunch of terrorists from Punjab, Arab countries, Central Asian republics etc are fighting for their own agendas and play havoc with the lives of ordinary Pashtuns. In the tribal areas all this is happening in connivance and collaboration with ….who else….PUTA and PUTISI..of course.
(9) USA and the international community have to think out of the box and start a new approach to solve the problems in South Asia.
(10) Strategic significance of Pakistan derived from its physical location should be severely undermined. Rapidly developing supply routes, economic lifeline for Afghanistan through Central Asian republics is critical to alleviate the choke hold Pakistan has had on Afghanistan for so long.
(11) Even though US has serious issues with Iran, India developing a supply route to Afghanistan through the new Iranian port will further help in achieving #10. US should not AND WOULD NOT discourage this development.
(12) Military aid to Pakistan should be entirely stopped. Aid to the civilian government should be tightly scrutinized to ensure it is strictly used for economic development and in installments based on how much Pakistan co-operates.
(13) The primary goal for the Afghan people SHOULD BE to establish a government in Kabul that truly represents the aspirations all the ethnic groups in Afghanistan. This is different from the goal of PUTA, PUTISI and Punjabistanis who primarily look at Afghanistan as their colony just like SINDUDESH, JINNAHPUR, BALOCHISTAN AND PASHTUNISTAN and would like to have some puppet government there even if that means they are Taliban terrorists.
(14) Finally, INDIES may not have much to gloat. They should be seriously worried about economy being affected by this holy mess. Indies should dramatically boost their technical capabilities, intelligence apparatus to fight terrorism and be prepared for the potential implosion of Pakistan into a mega-Afghanistan.
(15) MASADI. IN THE SERVICE OF AMERICA. IN THE SERVICE OF MASADI.
Dr. Masadi Moron
Director, Jihadistan Project
Co-ordinator, Under the Desk Delusion
CIA Headquarters
Langley, Virginia
EMAIL: moron_to_thepower_infinity@cia.gov
Ph-703-44-IDIOT
FAX-703-44-MORON
#229 Posted by VRV on January 30, 2009 4:22:42 pm
http://www.daylife.com/search?q=Slumdog+Millionaire
Rubina Ali in her new school dress - a transformation of kind for a slum kid. They see future in education. :)
Rubina Ali in her new school dress - a transformation of kind for a slum kid. They see future in education. :)
#228 Posted by VRV on January 30, 2009 3:52:45 pm
Slumdog millions for little stars
- Plan to pump in ‘significant’ box-office profits into Mumbai slum
TIM TEEMAN
Rubina Ali, who plays the young Latika in Slumdog Millionaire, at her home in a Bandra slum. (Reuters)
London, Jan. 30: An ambitious plan to pump “significant� profits from the film Slumdog Millionaire back into the Mumbai slums where the film is set has been revealed by its director, Danny Boyle.
Boyle said investors, who are set to benefit from millions in box-office profits, were planning to meet in London next week to discuss how much money to put into a special fund and how best to distribute the cash.
“We want to set it up as soon as possible. What absolutely mustn’t happen is that the money disappears, or people think this is a PR stunt,� Boyle said.
Boyle and Christian Colson, one of Slumdog’s producers, revealed the plan after mounting criticism of the film’s alleged financial exploitation of its child stars and its portrayal of Indian slum life. The multi-award winning and nominated film follows the occasionally brutal rags-to-riches story of a slum dweller. Boyle insisted that the fund was not being set up in response to criticism of the film.
“This is our chance to give something back to an extraordinary city which has helped us produce an extraordinary film. We came up with it once we realised what a success the film was becoming after the Golden Globes,� he said.
Slumdog won four Globes: best drama, best director, best screenplay and best original score.
The aim of the fund would be to help underprivileged children, Boyle said. It would distribute money to projects in Mumbai and “perhaps� the rest of India.
The men denied claims in the press that the children, who still live in shacks alongside Mumbai’s railway tracks, had been exploited. Colson said Rubina Ali, who played the young Latika, and Azharuddin Ismail, who played Salim, were paid “three times the amount of an annual adult salary� for what amounted to a month’s work.
A substantial lump sum (the men would not be specific) would be paid to the children once they reached 18 and completed their studies. “It’s a carrot to encourage them to stay at school,� Colson said.
The feverish media interest in the children has meant that they have had to be removed from school in Mumbai and returned to their original village homes, he added.
Since the children began their education last June at the filmmakers’ expense, “the transformation of them has been eye-watering,� claimed Boyle, who added he was “determined to protect them from anything that might distort or harm� their future opportunities.
Colson said “a conscious decision not to shower� the children with money from the movie had been made. “They would not be able psychologically and practically to handle that. Our plan is to ameliorate their lives.�
The men also responded to the controversy over the film’s title. “Referring to people living in slums as dogs is a violation of human rights,� claimed Tateshwar Vishwakarma, an Indian social activist, who has called for effigies of Boyle to be burnt in protest.
“Protest is a way of life in India,� Boyle said. “It’s an extraordinary democracy. You just hope it won’t become violent. My concern is that it doesn’t hurt the kids and that my own children don’t see anything like that. It’s distressing.�
Boyle said the word “slumdog� wasn’t intended as an insult. “It’s meant as ‘underdog’, the romantic idea of a guy succeeding on his own terms against all kinds of adversity. We tried to reflect as much of the city as we could. It’s a place of extremes. The feel-good element comes from Mumbai having this extraordinary resilience and effervescence of energy. Like New York, it’s a city that grabs you by the throat and says ‘Welcome’. I am proud of it.�
Colson said: “Whatever criticism is levelled against the film, we made it in good faith.� Boyle claimed he had no expectations of Baftas or Oscars — quoting Benjamin Franklin’s “In this world nothing is certain but death or taxes� — but Slumdog remains a hot awards favourite.
Yesterday, at the Richard Attenborough Film Awards, it won film of the year, director of the year and rising star of the year for its lead male actor, Dev Patel.
THE TIMES, LONDON
- Plan to pump in ‘significant’ box-office profits into Mumbai slum
TIM TEEMAN
Rubina Ali, who plays the young Latika in Slumdog Millionaire, at her home in a Bandra slum. (Reuters)
London, Jan. 30: An ambitious plan to pump “significant� profits from the film Slumdog Millionaire back into the Mumbai slums where the film is set has been revealed by its director, Danny Boyle.
Boyle said investors, who are set to benefit from millions in box-office profits, were planning to meet in London next week to discuss how much money to put into a special fund and how best to distribute the cash.
“We want to set it up as soon as possible. What absolutely mustn’t happen is that the money disappears, or people think this is a PR stunt,� Boyle said.
Boyle and Christian Colson, one of Slumdog’s producers, revealed the plan after mounting criticism of the film’s alleged financial exploitation of its child stars and its portrayal of Indian slum life. The multi-award winning and nominated film follows the occasionally brutal rags-to-riches story of a slum dweller. Boyle insisted that the fund was not being set up in response to criticism of the film.
“This is our chance to give something back to an extraordinary city which has helped us produce an extraordinary film. We came up with it once we realised what a success the film was becoming after the Golden Globes,� he said.
Slumdog won four Globes: best drama, best director, best screenplay and best original score.
The aim of the fund would be to help underprivileged children, Boyle said. It would distribute money to projects in Mumbai and “perhaps� the rest of India.
The men denied claims in the press that the children, who still live in shacks alongside Mumbai’s railway tracks, had been exploited. Colson said Rubina Ali, who played the young Latika, and Azharuddin Ismail, who played Salim, were paid “three times the amount of an annual adult salary� for what amounted to a month’s work.
A substantial lump sum (the men would not be specific) would be paid to the children once they reached 18 and completed their studies. “It’s a carrot to encourage them to stay at school,� Colson said.
The feverish media interest in the children has meant that they have had to be removed from school in Mumbai and returned to their original village homes, he added.
Since the children began their education last June at the filmmakers’ expense, “the transformation of them has been eye-watering,� claimed Boyle, who added he was “determined to protect them from anything that might distort or harm� their future opportunities.
Colson said “a conscious decision not to shower� the children with money from the movie had been made. “They would not be able psychologically and practically to handle that. Our plan is to ameliorate their lives.�
The men also responded to the controversy over the film’s title. “Referring to people living in slums as dogs is a violation of human rights,� claimed Tateshwar Vishwakarma, an Indian social activist, who has called for effigies of Boyle to be burnt in protest.
“Protest is a way of life in India,� Boyle said. “It’s an extraordinary democracy. You just hope it won’t become violent. My concern is that it doesn’t hurt the kids and that my own children don’t see anything like that. It’s distressing.�
Boyle said the word “slumdog� wasn’t intended as an insult. “It’s meant as ‘underdog’, the romantic idea of a guy succeeding on his own terms against all kinds of adversity. We tried to reflect as much of the city as we could. It’s a place of extremes. The feel-good element comes from Mumbai having this extraordinary resilience and effervescence of energy. Like New York, it’s a city that grabs you by the throat and says ‘Welcome’. I am proud of it.�
Colson said: “Whatever criticism is levelled against the film, we made it in good faith.� Boyle claimed he had no expectations of Baftas or Oscars — quoting Benjamin Franklin’s “In this world nothing is certain but death or taxes� — but Slumdog remains a hot awards favourite.
Yesterday, at the Richard Attenborough Film Awards, it won film of the year, director of the year and rising star of the year for its lead male actor, Dev Patel.
THE TIMES, LONDON
#227 Posted by VRV on January 30, 2009 3:51:11 pm
Finally there's some positive outcome of the criticism that's mounted from all sides.
#226 Posted by truth_seeker54 on January 30, 2009 4:53:53 am
" Cut us some slack, ubermansch. "
You mean...dobermann(pin)sch(er)?
You mean...dobermann(pin)sch(er)?
#225 Posted by truth_seeker54 on January 30, 2009 4:42:26 am
hamidm
"anil mian can get you a discount through his hindoo connections ....."
Hamid mia, something is "horrible"y wrong with your. You don't sound like yourself.
"anil mian can get you a discount through his hindoo connections ....."
Hamid mia, something is "horrible"y wrong with your. You don't sound like yourself.
#224 Posted by hamidm2 on January 30, 2009 4:34:13 am
Re: # 223
tahmed mian,
... so you are suggesting that there might be a 'kernel' of truth in mills and that masadi is not a complete idiot ? ....... i beg to disagree - using that logic we would let all the looneys out of lunatic asylums ........
p.s. i heard that masadi escaped from bellvue psych ward? is that true?
tahmed mian,
... so you are suggesting that there might be a 'kernel' of truth in mills and that masadi is not a complete idiot ? ....... i beg to disagree - using that logic we would let all the looneys out of lunatic asylums ........
p.s. i heard that masadi escaped from bellvue psych ward? is that true?
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