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Slumdog Millionaire ... what should movies be like

Shantanu Dutta January 23, 2009

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#79 Posted by nkg on January 26, 2009 8:45:13 pm
Re: # 34
lamnew...
I was knowing that this mal-practice is very much prevalent in bihar? it had spread to punjab too...
there was a joke about the state of education in bihar...

an old person war going from Kolkata to haridwar for pilgrimage. he was taking his dog along with him. On the way, close to Patna, he found one University...so, he is university graduade, but not his dog...he had thought of acquiring some degree for his dog from the university. He asked the registrar, "how much is required to get an M.A.?","200 bucks"," OK please issue the certificate in the name of my dog...", "Oh, no, this university is only meant for donkeys..."
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#78 Posted by nkg on January 26, 2009 8:32:55 pm
laddu...
so far, I have not seen the movie.qualitatively european directors are better than 99.99% of hollywood directors...we can expect better movie than that of master of hollywood sh**, Spielberg (remember Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, where Shivaites were sacrificing human life!!! the height of sh**, which is not even entertaining like actions of Rajnikanth)...
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#77 Posted by nkg on January 26, 2009 8:27:43 pm
Laddu...
Mumbai hosts world's largest slum and dirtiest place, Dharavi...no movie can show it in original form. it will make horror movie...a lot of mumbai ardooo/urdooo movies shows bits and pieces of this horror...there is no point cribbing about it....

if somebody is not driven by propaganda, let us accept it...I can remember that musla nautch girl come MP, Nargis even critised maestro Satyajit Ray for selling Indian poverty to the world...let us hope, many of the indians reach the intellectual level above Nargis....

Now, if Pakis demand that, British directors have to make movie on slums of Karachi too, let them do that...but then somebody in Karachi have to write the novel for the director.....
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#76 Posted by nkg on January 26, 2009 8:18:08 pm
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hamidm2...
when have the pakis become so intellectual? using film etc.!!! isn't it forbidden to muslas?
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#75 Posted by bhairav on January 26, 2009 7:35:39 pm
I am not being sarcastic when I say I enjoy Paki mujra videos; they are so bad that they are actually good if you know what I mean
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#74 Posted by bhairav on January 26, 2009 7:29:43 pm
FINALLY ! Its OUT !! YEAHHH !!!

The CD whose release I’ve been waiting for ALL THIS TIME !!!!

WELCOME NARGIS – Volume 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruOAKhxKT5g
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#73 Posted by krishna_abcd on January 26, 2009 5:57:49 pm
From BBCNEWS.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/south_asia_enl_ 1232963427/html/1.stm

Arjun, if you have the the bypass for the hotlink-prevention software, maybe you can post this picture for the Pakis to see.

: )

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#72 Posted by laddu on January 26, 2009 5:13:20 pm
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=QqisW6p6_5E

Some 120,000 people live in squatter settlements in Ibrahim Haidery on Karachi's coastline struggling to earn a living. They endure extreme weather conditions and survive on next to nothing

How about these slum-dogs of karachi.

they must be enjoying 5 star facilities that momeen brothers provide to them.......
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#71 Posted by laddu on January 26, 2009 5:09:32 pm
SLUMS IN THE WAY OF KARACHI PROGRESS

Karachi is Pakistan's biggest city and greatest hope, with aspirations of becoming the next Shanghai. But in the way of its rapid progress stands Asia's largest slum.

Slums sits in the heart of the financial capital, but plans to transform it are being met with fierce opposition.

Every inch of the slum is occupied. Rows of corrugated iron shacks are packed with the belongings of the hundreds of families who live here. Young children play with stray dogs among the filth and rubbish. There is little sign of clean drinking water and the sanitation facilities are appalling - up to 80 people are forced to share one toilet.

Slums of Karachi like Layri, Akhter Colony, Korangi & others bears all the hallmarks of Pakistan's most crippling problems. Sixty-year-old Razman has been living in the slum for 10 years. He invites our group members into his tiny home. There is a small stove in one corner and a tired old fan, if we stretch our arms out we could touch both walls of the room that is home to the five members of his family, including two small children.

"We want change and for conditions to improve for the people who live here. There is nowhere for my grandchildren to play but I cannot afford to move from here," he says.



"My vision would be that it would be transformed into one of the better suburbs of Karachi - it will be forgotten as any kind of slum - there will be state of the art modern amenities and a lot of happy people living�, Karachi Government



But many of the residents have other ideas. They refuse to be transformed by international companies who have little or no idea of their community and what it needs.

Their neighborhood may be plagued by a crippling infrastructure but at the heart of Karachi is a bustling business district that generates up to $39m a year.

The tiny alleys that lead through the maze that is Asia's biggest slum are packed with small workshops. Here tanners thrash the hide of freshly cut leather and paint the square strips to be sewn into handbags. It's the kind of business that keeps half of the residents like Aslam Khan in employment.

"I would not be able to afford the cost of hiring a room outside Layri. If the plans of demolishing Layri of Expressway project goes ahead, we will lose so much business," he says.



Many are suspicious that the motivation to demolish Layri is purely about money. The slum is a prime location for the financial capital, which makes the land its worth to be weighted in gold.

Syed Ali grew up in Karachi's slums and now represents the slum dwellers in their fight against the government's plans.

"Selling this land to the global market and giving it over for commercial use - how will that improve our lives? Ninety per cent of the people here want a stake in their future and a say in how it is transformed. It has to work from the bottom up - not top down. They have tried to tackle Layri before and never been successful," he says.



Visitors to the slum are struck by the uniqueness of Layri - most describe it as being like a city in itself, with a community of people living and working together which many wish to preserve. In return for building tenement houses to shelter the former residents, the chosen developer will win the right to build on the rest of the land. The plans could be used as a blueprint to tackle poverty in the rest of Pakistan's slums. But the planners and the government face a fierce battle. Close to where the slum sits is the main railway track bringing trains from across Pakistan to its wealthiest city - and the slum dwellers threaten to bring it to a grinding halt

Syed Ali says if the plans are given the go-ahead "all we have to do is simply step out of our homes".

He explains: "We will completely block the railways. A hundred thousand of us will squat there and bring the whole city and the whole of Pakistan to a stop."



ADULT MORTALITY IN SLUMS OF KARACHI



OBJECTIVE: Cause-specific death rates are rarely available to guide health interventions for adults in South Asia. We report mortality patterns among Karachi's urban poor.

METHODS: We conducted verbal autopsies for adult deaths under active surveillance during 1990-1993 in five urban slums of Karachi. Two physicians (Dr. M. Amin Panawala & Dr. Irshad Ali) assigned underlying cause of death by consensus. Analysis included cause- and category-specific rates , 45Q15s and comparison with 1991 Japanese national statistics.

RESULTS:

* All 345 adult deaths (15-59 years) in the 5 slums (total population 415,389) were included.
* Male mortality exceeded female (4.4 vs 3.3/1000, p = .02).
* Noncommunicable diseases claimed 59% of deaths, communicable and reproductive 27% and injuries, 15%.
* The leading identified death rates (/100,000) among women were: circulatory disorders (66), maternal causes (33), tuberculosis (30), and burns (23).
* Among men they were: circulatory disorders (124) tuberculosis (30) and road traffic accidents (30).
* Overall Karachi adult mortality was 3.7 times Japanese rate. Compared to Japan, adults in Karachi had one to two orders of magnitude excess mortality due to maternal causes, tuberculosis and burns.
* Circulatory disorders and tuberculosis accounted for 47% of excess male mortality; these plus maternal causes and burns accounted for 55% of excess female mortality.

CONCLUSION: These mortality levels and patterns compel interventions and research for poor urban adults beyond maternal health. Women's health would equally benefit from tuberculosis control or burn prevention. Men need safer travel. Both need improved cardiovascular health.



DETERMINANTS OF CHILD MORTALITY IN SLUMS OF KARACHI



Pakistan has an infant mortality rate (IMR) of 90.5/1000 live births, and the country's child mortality level of 117.5 is worse than in other South Asian countries. Rapid population growth combined with rural-to-urban migration has led to the creation of urban slums in which morbidity levels are usually higher than in rural populations. A study was conducted in January 1993 in 6 slums of Karachi where the Aga Khan University has operated primary health care programs since 1985. Researchers recorded the deaths of 347 children under age 5 years old due to diarrhea and acute respiratory infections (ARI) during 1989-93. 235 mothers of these children were interviewed.

The following are discussed as risk factors for under-5 child mortality:

* the use of traditional healers
* poor nutritional status
* incomplete or no immunization
* the quick change of healers
* inappropriate child care arrangements, and mother’s literacy
* short birth interval, bottle feeding, and nuclear family structure



Maternal autonomy, appropriate health-seeking behavior, and child-rearing processes identified in the study point to the need for intervention strategies which go beyond the usual primary health care initiatives and involve communities in developing social support systems for mothers.

The role of family health-seeking behavior in under-five-year child mortality was explored through the combined approach of examining health-seeking behavior regarding treatment generally, and in specific in relation to illness before death. A population-based case control study was carried out during the period 1993–1994 using 222 deaths from diarrhea and acute respiratory illness (ARI) in children under five years of age in six slums of Karachi as cases, and 419 controls matched on age, disease (diarrhea and ARI) and slum. Factors significantly associated (p
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#70 Posted by kaurasach on January 26, 2009 3:20:34 pm
hamid,
a former cop in pakistan told me that the most common excuse for tempo wallas in pakisatan was .... 'buddi any naal naeen lagan dena.....jay paisay naeen faRay.....reham karo...... and the cops would take pity".....so much for the macho male of pakistan
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#69 Posted by anil on January 26, 2009 2:38:48 pm
Re: # 65

Hamidm sahib:

Why mian, why do you teach wrong things to good boys, soon your daughters will be bringing their boyfriend / husband. Can you imagine he throws such tantrum and China on the wall right near you sit?

Lagta hai na aapki ammi ne, aur na hi aapki Mrs. Hamidm ne aapko durust kiya. Kaise bach gaye, secret kya hai?
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#68 Posted by Faruk on January 26, 2009 9:59:27 am
hamid mian,

My wife does wear pants, I met her at a dojo so I am very careful with the things I try.

Regards,


Faruk.
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#67 Posted by Faruk on January 26, 2009 9:47:52 am
re: truth_seeker54

"One thing I have reservations about him is that he is a beautiful guy (I would have preferred him to be handsome) I can't help imagining him in thick make-up and lip-stick."

I don't know what it is but something about rolly polly hamid mian jumping around singing I am so pretty I am so pretty grosses me out.


Regards,


Faruk
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#66 Posted by rf786 on January 26, 2009 9:43:25 am
Re: # 63

laddu bhai

Have u considered seeking help? Please do yourself a favor and seek therapy. This is a sincere advice. My apologies if this offends, but its the truth.
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#65 Posted by hamidm2 on January 26, 2009 9:41:18 am
Re: # 62

faruk mian,

.... i suspect you are an indian moslem, therefore i am not surprised by your ordeal ...... as i have always maintained, indian moslems are either terrorists or castrated cat-whipped eunuchs! ........stand up and be a man! ... here is what you should do next time you walk into the house:

...... as soon as you walk in the front door, kick the dog (a piece of furniture will do if you don't have a dog) and yell at your woman to bring your slippers ..... if she doesn't do so within three minutes, throw a plate or cup against the wall (make sure it is not wedgewood china ... although i suspect that because of hindoo influence all your utensils are probably stainless steel or clay) ...... next, sit down in a chair (unless you are a gandhian and don't have any furniture) and make her wash your feet (if you are a gandhi disciple you will know what i am talking about) ........ after she is done with that, have her bring you your runny dal and heeng laced bhaji with a chappati or two ........ make sure she swats the flies while you lick your fingers and smack your lips as you consume your supper .... burp .. if you find a grain of sand or hair in your bhaji smack her upside the head (lightly) ....... after you are done with dinner, tell her to go to the bedroom and get ready ..... once she is gone, turn on the discovery channel and watch the primates mating to get in the mood .......... good luck to you

p.s. if she already has a driver's licence and wears pants, it is too late ...... in that case, consult a bride burning expert .......
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#64 Posted by laddu on January 26, 2009 9:32:30 am
Slums in Karachi: Cause and Current Situation PDF Print E-mail
Written by www.daily.pk
Sunday, 16 November 2008 04:24
Poverty is not only having a low income but it is rather scarcity of essential capabilities and that comparative scarcity is related to income which can lead to absolute deprivation this is the argument which is placed by the Amritya Sen. He further says that income is not the only mechanism in extracting capabilities; there are many other social and cultural factors as well. He came up with the term 'instrumental significance' for low income whereas; he pointed out the various deficiencies as 'intrinsically important'.

These intrinsically important factors could be disability and old age which require a bread winner to spend more on that old person or it could unequal distribution of resources or any other socially important reason but the conclusion is capability deprivations and result in migration from rural areas to urban areas for better opportunities.

When these people migrate to urban areas they don't have proper shelter to cover themselves and they try to have their own shelters and which result in formation of new slum. The table below shows the population of slum areas in Karachi with respect to number of house holds




Population 1974 1986 2000

709,000 1,036,000 1,064,400

Number of Households


109,077 164,000 148,000

(Source: Mohib & Hassan. The Case of Karachi Pakistan)

Taking the year 1974 as a yardstick we can find out that, till 1986, the population augmented by 46.12% and the number of households increased by 50.35%, a little more than the population increase. Comparing this up to these last twenty six years from 1976, the total population increase has been 50.13%, whereas, the number of household in these slum areas have risen by 35.68%, having a low trend between 1986 and 2000. However, creating housing units is not only solution in accommodating the less affluent class of our society, rather maintenance issues should be sorted out before thinking of building new ones.

According to the survey by Mohib and Hassan, Karachi is in a need of 80,000 units per year but to negative feature of the uncorroborated problem is that the building permits is only to 27,000 annually. Often, the construction that takes place in the so called 'Katchi abadis', is sometimes undocumented and surface way to auxiliary densification. The housing units are developed or in other words maintained solely by the people themselves every year, government support or subsidies are not provided to them. Therefore, the residents of these units themselves pool in for maintenance such as sanitation, water and other necessities needed to make out their living and make both ends meet.

This has gone to the extent that they even have invested in the creation of schools in these slum areas. For instance, in Orangi Town, the population comprises of 1.2 million people and has schooling facilities as well, both private and public. Astonishingly, the private schools even in Orangi Town outnumber public schools. It has been found out that there are 509 private schools and 76 government schools, and out of these 71% of school age children are enrolled in private schools.

When it comes to the health sector, even here, the private clinics out number public clinics with them being 468 and the government clinics having as low a number as 18. They are being run by health visitors and qualified doctors who work both pro bono and for some pay as well. Other health facilities are run by NGO's in this area.

According to a survey of Ghaziabad (settlement in West Karachi) conducted by Mohib and Hassan, income of 20 households was verified, and it was found out that average income of these households was ranging from Rs. 4,500 to Rs. 6000 with average per capita income being as low as Rs. 500. Highest household income had been Rs. 28,000 and the lowest had been Rs. 1,500 was is extremely low not just as compared to the rising cost of living but according to being a resident of the slums.

This frequently turn into complicated situation to meet the expense of a life when on average the number of children in a residence is 9.5 as habitually families have four children and above. This is also shored up by the fact that the birth rate in Orangi is 40.8 per 1000 people. With this surged birth rate, there will be a need of more and more housing units to lodge these people without merely getting their living conditions improved. The sewage, water and electricity problems continue more often in these areas.

KAIRP has been a significant curriculum for the enhancement and regularization for the slums of Karachi. For the accomplishment of this curriculum, a loan of $ 7.3 million was taken from the Asian Development Bank and the World Bank in 2000 although the inhabitants would deny it. The governments representative have say that relevant work has been completed in slum areas and leases have been issued to 108,245 housing units as compared to a total of 415,000 units. However, there is no declaration of the particulars accessible for any work conceded out through these councilor/MNA/MPA funds because of the nonexistence of monitoring and there is a elevated weight age that these funds may have been distorted. These slum areas are not openly connected with the city infrastructure for the reason that of which improvement programs fail. Saeed Zaman Shaikh
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