Let's Celebrate Darwin's Anniversary Year

Re: # 13
Fay3Z,
Thanks for not stepping into the bottomless pit of the athiests here at ChowQ and elsewhere. Hang in there and your effort will bear fruit.

I have made a note of your request for what the Qur'an says about creation-evolution.

The only problem is that ChowQ has no stomach for truth; all its resources are devoted to pushing certain agendas. Those behind it are robots who never reveal themselves. It has repeatedly banned me and refused to publish articles! But you can see things better here:
http://www.chowk.com/writers/775

I highly recommend a very thorough translation by Dr. Muhammad Asad (The Message Of The Qur'an). A Pakistani print (without an Index) is for Rs. 700 but a foreign one goes for about $35. Take your pick.

You will enjoy deep-diving into it, I'm sure!

Never lose faith.

Quoting Kipling does not make one a Dirty Imperialist Brown Sahib as some you over here are implying. Given that Kipling was a bard of Imperialism is his writing, one also must acknowledge Kiplings admiration for Bravery, Courage and Moral fortitude in people regardless of race, religion and creed.

Eklavya bhai: are you suggesting i actually read this article? :-(

Tahmed ji, if you notice who all are quoting Kipling, and what their stands/preferences are with respect to American/NATO involvement in Afghanistan, you will hear what eleventyone is saying.

eleventyone #12 the taliban have taken over swat, and you are worrying about kipling? kis duniya main rahtay hain janaab??

fay3z #13 evolution is no longer a theory. it is an observed fact. and if the news hasnt reached you yet, then i suggest you educate yourself.

also, you are welcome to reject science and follow the mullah to the toilet with a lota. but you cant pick and choose - i.e., you reject evolution, but then give (irrelevant) references to the second law of thermodynamics to give the sheen of "science" to your uneducated views.

true that bro. all i get here is cocky supposedly 'witty' banter. No actual answers backed by evidence. I read an article just a few days back where prominent supporters of the theory of evolution themselves stated that the opposition of the law of entophy must have happened by 'magic.' The second law of thermodynamics clearly states any isolated system left on its own tends to destabilise or break down further with no exception to the rule. Our pro evolutionary ape friends are of the view that a system (i.e matter)left on its own, not only stabilised but stabilised enough to form larger, more intricate and utterly complex substance such as a unicellular organism from where supposedly humans have evolved from. contradictory? yes.laughable? yes i think so too.

Where I seem to strike out is to what our religion says on the subject. I have read bits and pieces where our religion agrees with hereditary transfer of dominant genes and the survival of the fittest but I am confused about where the buck stops. If you know of any articles or specific pieces of translation could you please let me in on them Tahir sahab. I have always wanted to read the translation of the Quran but never got around it.

"the colonists came here for a reason, and they're still around wearing a different uniform. We still haven't recoverd from the diseases they spread."

we won't reccover unless we stamp out kipling-quoting brown sahibs in our midst

tahir,

u sound so idiotic, I swear!
Just look at yourself, u kalaay mu waley bander. How can you forget Darwinism, u damned species!

Once again, full marks...Daudpota.

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fay

u don't get a different argument even in a traslation. Creationism is long dead, buried in sistine chappal!

Cheers.
-E

Anybody else tonight?

"We own their old railways, why not him"

By the way Daudpota, the Red Coats put the system in place so that they could transport all our goodies fast to their part of the world for purely commercial purposes, not because they were our 'phuphi ka puttars'!

What a silly comparison! The colonists came here for a reason, and they're still around wearing a different uniform. We still haven't recoverd from the diseases they spread.

Good luck on your journey riding the last ('aakhri dubba') compartment of this esteemed railway sytem.

Damned Masonic enlightenment.

Re: # 4
" I have been having a debate with a few agonostic workmates...creationism and darwinism. Tried looking up what my religion says on the subject but still remain confused. Some help please?"

Help on ChowQ, forget it! Confused about what Islam says about evolution Vs creation? Read a translation and you'll get all your answers.

You cannot argue with evolved fools!

Re: # 2
"It's equally stupid that creator of this huge Universe also created life on earth."

When will you see within yourself and heavenwards to know that its all INTELLIGENT design, the mark of a Supreme Maker!

When will you evolve further, and why haven't you grown more hands and feets over the centuries?

Darwinism is dead; God is alive!

Re: # 1
"Darwin's theory in particular vanished from Pakistan. Please try to publish this article in some other prominent newspaper(s) in Pakistan also. For the good of Pakistan."

For the good of PAKISTAN? What do you know about our 'good' living abroad?

The mass media lies all the time, so I won't be surprised if all of them publish this nonsense that you so keenly (with 'azad khayali') advocate.

This bull-excretion of a theory needs to R.I.P forever.

That's that.

You're flogging a dead horse Daudpota.

The theory was proven wrong long ago. Darwin communicated with the German eugenics experts (ta..da...Hitler), and based his theory on watching a few miserably lonesome species on a God-forsaken island.

See my I-log about God-cursed Ziontists, these liars who've made a mess of all things God-made.

I am by far not the most smartest person alive so correct me if I am wrong. Are you trying to say that a link exists between Islam and Darwinism? If you are, could you please tell me what that link is? I have been having a debate with a few agonostic workmates of mine on the subject of creationism and darwinism. I have tried looking up what my religion says on the subject but still remain confused. Some help please?