Afzal K Shinwari February 14, 2009
#1 Posted by bittersweetmojo on February 18, 2009 10:41:59 am
Mr. Shinwari,
Your piece is part of a series of crap published on Chowk of late, I think. That's an opinion, so no offence meant.
And for your fragile information, a few days ago Swatis along with Pashtoons of Karachi and a handful of socialists staged a protest demonstration in Karachi. Their demands: Stop the Operation. Their condemnation: "Military suck, Taliban fcuk."
Get a sleep now, please.
-E
Your piece is part of a series of crap published on Chowk of late, I think. That's an opinion, so no offence meant.
And for your fragile information, a few days ago Swatis along with Pashtoons of Karachi and a handful of socialists staged a protest demonstration in Karachi. Their demands: Stop the Operation. Their condemnation: "Military suck, Taliban fcuk."
Get a sleep now, please.
-E
#2 Posted by Goldfinger on February 18, 2009 4:42:10 pm
Mr. Shinwari...timely article...to bring to light efforts of the few who would stand in the face of the demonic cult of the so-called Talibs to whose domineering brigandry even the govt succumbs...now they are meddling in other devilry by threatening artistes like Haroun Bacha, Gulzar Alam (singers) and Ismail Shahid (actors) and sundry others like them to quit performing their artisty...
#3 Posted by rabiawsti on February 18, 2009 5:24:45 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/nyregion/17swat.html?_r=1
#4 Posted by bittersweetmojo on February 18, 2009 6:54:25 pm
why my post has been redflagged, Mr. (Ms. or Mrs.) Flagger?
Did my mention of 'Stop the Operation' get u by balls?
-E
Did my mention of 'Stop the Operation' get u by balls?
-E
#5 Posted by tobateksingh on February 18, 2009 9:58:16 pm
The Peace Rally by Amn Tehreek on Jan 31st explicitly mentioned the Swat situation in its mobilisation campaign.
And this placard says it all:
http://www.peaceandsecularstudies.org/pictures/AmnTehreek31Jan2009/pages/A mn%20Tehreek%20Rally%20130a.html
Good article. Good to know that people on chowk are responding to the various crises surrounding us. Is there a link between the chowk community and activists out there on the streets?
And this placard says it all:
http://www.peaceandsecularstudies.org/pictures/AmnTehreek31Jan2009/pages/A mn%20Tehreek%20Rally%20130a.html
Good article. Good to know that people on chowk are responding to the various crises surrounding us. Is there a link between the chowk community and activists out there on the streets?
#6 Posted by jayp on February 18, 2009 10:57:10 pm
Re: # 3
the story of a paki in the US going to pakiland and getting kidnapped is sad.
It is quite possible that the poor khan of the story read tahmeds post on chowk about the great time his family had in pakiland and decided to go.
The chowk should b sued for publishing such untruth.
the story of a paki in the US going to pakiland and getting kidnapped is sad.
It is quite possible that the poor khan of the story read tahmeds post on chowk about the great time his family had in pakiland and decided to go.
The chowk should b sued for publishing such untruth.
#7 Posted by jayp on February 18, 2009 11:00:58 pm
Laws of islam
It is good that swat is teh first region in pakistan to bcome completely officially jihadic even though large parts of fata were.
This proves the first theory of islamic virulence.
It states that " the degree of virulence of islam is inversely proportional to its distance from mecca" .
That is why the jihadic strain came to swat first and not to karachi. That also explains why indonesia has the most tolerant islam.
It is good that swat is teh first region in pakistan to bcome completely officially jihadic even though large parts of fata were.
This proves the first theory of islamic virulence.
It states that " the degree of virulence of islam is inversely proportional to its distance from mecca" .
That is why the jihadic strain came to swat first and not to karachi. That also explains why indonesia has the most tolerant islam.
#8 Posted by jayp on February 18, 2009 11:11:57 pm
At last some one is listening, reading chowk and seriously discussing the resizing of pakistan
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To all those who spoke at length to him, Holbrooke made it clear changes were on the cards. The Obama administration sees the Pak-Afghan region as central to its foreign policy. Some accounts say the President himself has been poring over maps and books on the region to find answers. For Islamabad, the question of what answers he comes up with will of course be crucial. In the longer term, with Washington clearly deeply impatient with the puppet regime of Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan, the possibility of carving out a new state of 'Pushtoonistan' is said to have been tabled. The ethnic, geographical and strategic implications of this are said to be under study.
////////from jang of today////////
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To all those who spoke at length to him, Holbrooke made it clear changes were on the cards. The Obama administration sees the Pak-Afghan region as central to its foreign policy. Some accounts say the President himself has been poring over maps and books on the region to find answers. For Islamabad, the question of what answers he comes up with will of course be crucial. In the longer term, with Washington clearly deeply impatient with the puppet regime of Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan, the possibility of carving out a new state of 'Pushtoonistan' is said to have been tabled. The ethnic, geographical and strategic implications of this are said to be under study.
////////from jang of today////////
#9 Posted by shoaib_daniyal on February 18, 2009 11:50:11 pm
Jayp,
It states that " the degree of virulence of islam is inversely proportional to its distance from mecca" .
That is why the jihadic strain came to swat first and not to karachi. That also explains why indonesia has the most tolerant islam.
I eagerly await the results of this theory with Turkey fed in as data.
Shoaib
It states that " the degree of virulence of islam is inversely proportional to its distance from mecca" .
That is why the jihadic strain came to swat first and not to karachi. That also explains why indonesia has the most tolerant islam.
I eagerly await the results of this theory with Turkey fed in as data.
Shoaib
#10 Posted by jayp on February 18, 2009 11:52:43 pm
Re: # 9
Thanks shoab,
Turkey is an exception, which proves the rule, further turkey is an religious state, secularism enforced with jihadic fervour.
Thanks shoab,
Turkey is an exception, which proves the rule, further turkey is an religious state, secularism enforced with jihadic fervour.
#11 Posted by jayp on February 19, 2009 12:09:13 am
Re: # 9
shoab,
Then of course there ius teh second law of islamic virulaence.
"there can be no peace in a jihadic frontier".
In the frontiers between a muslim majority country and another country, there can be no peace. Indo pak, israel gaza, pahilippines mindenao, russia chechnia
shoab,
Then of course there ius teh second law of islamic virulaence.
"there can be no peace in a jihadic frontier".
In the frontiers between a muslim majority country and another country, there can be no peace. Indo pak, israel gaza, pahilippines mindenao, russia chechnia
#12 Posted by nb on February 19, 2009 12:35:06 am
"We take part in emotional rallies in support of our Palestinian brethren in Gaza; showing our outrage at the world doing nothing against blatant Israeli aggression. However, did we stage one token protest, one rally, in support of our fellow citizens in Swat?"
Thanks for finally making that observation.
Thanks for finally making that observation.
#13 Posted by vakibs on February 19, 2009 5:04:40 am
I don't know when the ruling classes of Pakistan will realize that the secular, democratic and freedom loving Pashtuns are the true patriots of Pakistan.
Antagonizing them endlessly in favor of idiots and fundamentalists Islamists will only spell ruin to the state of Pakistan.
Antagonizing them endlessly in favor of idiots and fundamentalists Islamists will only spell ruin to the state of Pakistan.
#14 Posted by adamkhan on February 19, 2009 7:15:13 am
bittersweetmojo:
Snap out of your slumber, a few people saying fcuk and suck does not make a difference. How many media outlets reported this? did you guys get talat hussain or hamid mir to ask you about why you are cussing at the military and the Taliban? Any detailed analysis of this public gathering on GEO or Aaj TV? to the media this problem is much lower than load sheddings in Faisal abad. Just go to pkpolitics, look up the archives and dig out how many shows about Swat can you find compared to the Chief Justice Issue and India.
We have LOST A PART OF OUR COUNTRY, do you even understand the frikking severity of the problem? and WHO THE FUCK CARED? how many pakistanis know who Afzal Khan lala is? that show throwing iraqi got a thousand time more coverage than this guy on OUR media? Why? Can you think of ANY good reason for this?
his information is not fragile, YOUR idea about the intensity of this problem is simply childish, its not about a happy go lucky gathering of a few hundred its about strikes that would halt the whole of Pakistan and make the politician take on the military. we are no more in a martial law, we cant expect the same results to a strike as we would in case musharaf was incharge. Our representatives are in charge and we are supposed to pressure them into making decisions that we want. Remember those danish cartoons and its aftermath? THATS THE LEVEL THAT IS REQUIRED HERE.
Shinwariya wrorra, core they wadaan, zra they rala yakh kro... right now the bigger impression down south is that this is a pushtoon issue and somehow related to pushtoon culture... The current pakistani opinion makers are too happy to substantiate that.
and then there are our "friends" like mojo here who are happy with waving a few flags... i guess you have to be a victim of this onslaught to realize its intensity, very few pushtoons in Pakistan can say that they are not affected by the taliban issue in one way or another... The same sadly?/luckily? is not true for other ethnicities.
Snap out of your slumber, a few people saying fcuk and suck does not make a difference. How many media outlets reported this? did you guys get talat hussain or hamid mir to ask you about why you are cussing at the military and the Taliban? Any detailed analysis of this public gathering on GEO or Aaj TV? to the media this problem is much lower than load sheddings in Faisal abad. Just go to pkpolitics, look up the archives and dig out how many shows about Swat can you find compared to the Chief Justice Issue and India.
We have LOST A PART OF OUR COUNTRY, do you even understand the frikking severity of the problem? and WHO THE FUCK CARED? how many pakistanis know who Afzal Khan lala is? that show throwing iraqi got a thousand time more coverage than this guy on OUR media? Why? Can you think of ANY good reason for this?
his information is not fragile, YOUR idea about the intensity of this problem is simply childish, its not about a happy go lucky gathering of a few hundred its about strikes that would halt the whole of Pakistan and make the politician take on the military. we are no more in a martial law, we cant expect the same results to a strike as we would in case musharaf was incharge. Our representatives are in charge and we are supposed to pressure them into making decisions that we want. Remember those danish cartoons and its aftermath? THATS THE LEVEL THAT IS REQUIRED HERE.
Shinwariya wrorra, core they wadaan, zra they rala yakh kro... right now the bigger impression down south is that this is a pushtoon issue and somehow related to pushtoon culture... The current pakistani opinion makers are too happy to substantiate that.
and then there are our "friends" like mojo here who are happy with waving a few flags... i guess you have to be a victim of this onslaught to realize its intensity, very few pushtoons in Pakistan can say that they are not affected by the taliban issue in one way or another... The same sadly?/luckily? is not true for other ethnicities.
#16 Posted by masadi on February 19, 2009 2:51:25 pm
finally released after 8 days illegal detention by chowk staff
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