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Mr Zardari is Fighting a Losing Battle

Kamal Siddiqi March 8, 2009

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#165 Posted by missamericanpie on March 15, 2009 6:24:23 am
eklavya it has nothing to do with being "proud" it is about untwisting the facts
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#164 Posted by Goldfinger on March 14, 2009 9:02:07 pm
Well, actually nobody is fighting any losing battles...for the players concerned its win win battles all the way around...basically a race between two big corrupt thugs...the only thing that interests both the topnotch swindlers is to how and which way to screw the nation and to finagle some more billions into personal offshore accounts thats all...while the other criminals (politicians)gawk and perform their own thggery whichever way they can.
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#163 Posted by Eklavya on March 14, 2009 8:08:07 pm
Chalo, this madhouse needed just an American blonde to complete the picture, and now we have one - a proud one too.
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#162 Posted by missamericanpie on March 14, 2009 7:57:23 pm
dinastrange
honest politician is an oxymoron
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#161 Posted by missamericanpie on March 14, 2009 7:56:22 pm
masadi
you are the one that needs the education. bill gates and steve jobs both came from middle class back grounds. it was their intellect combined with drive an ambition that built their companies,which by the way, employs thousands world wide

and i AM a blonde from the usa
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#160 Posted by DinaStrange on March 13, 2009 3:27:11 pm
Zardari is incredibly corrupt as probably is Shariff. Pakistan needs a new government led by honest leaders who value and want the best for their country. Enough of pillaging of the economy by the few corrupt and elites.
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#159 Posted by masadi on March 13, 2009 1:54:41 pm
monopolies don't come from "brain power" they come from raw power as a result of wealth. Get an education missamericanpie you wannabe blonde from Bombay....

TNITC masadi
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#158 Posted by Skeptical on March 12, 2009 8:15:00 pm
Sharif brother disqualification.......fair decision.....were you drunk while writing this article or are you one of those instintictive PPP supporters who try to appear "objective" in their analysis....expecting Sharif brothers about national interest while saying nothing about steps taken by a croony Zardari.....Mr.Kamal learn to be fair.....I have been a voter of PPP in the past but now I can not even think of voting at all...
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#157 Posted by missamericanpie on March 12, 2009 7:25:49 pm
sr
you are right. this is all crap. yet we continue with our self indulgence. but is it because we "are incapable of seeing" or because we feel helplessly/hopelessly inadequate to do anything about it?
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#156 Posted by missamericanpie on March 12, 2009 7:20:46 pm
don't hate them because they are more intelligent than you are. lol
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#155 Posted by missamericanpie on March 12, 2009 7:19:18 pm
masadi
all rules including rules of entrepreneurship are rigged in favor of the monopoly capitalists? where do you think these monopolies come from? they are built by entrepreneurs that have found success with their brain child.
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#154 Posted by missamericanpie on March 12, 2009 6:46:58 pm
#38 While it is true that the Taliban and AQ have killed more of their fellow Muslims than US and Israel, the Taliban and and the AQ cause has its roots in the US policies in the Middle East and its continuing occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq and the their use of force to kill innocent civilians on a regular basis.

what about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

Officially Pakistan denied it was supporting the Taliban, but its support was substantial -- one year's aid (1997/1998) was an estimated US$30 million in wheat, diesel, petroleum and kerosene fuel, and other supplies.[81] The Taliban's influence in its neighbour Pakistan was deep. Its "unprecedented access" among Pakistan's lobbies and interest groups enabled it "to play off one lobby against another and extend their influence in Pakistan even further. At times they would defy" even the powerful ISI.[82]

Foreign powers, including the United States, were at first supportive of the Taliban in hopes it would serve as a force to restore order in Afghanistan after years of division into corrupt, lawless warlord fiefdoms. The U.S. government, for example, made no comment when the Taliban captured Herat in 1995 and expelled thousands of girls from schools.[83] These hopes faded as it began to be engaged in warlord practices of rocketing unarmed civilians, targeting ethnic groups (primarily Hazaras) and restricting the rights of women.[84] In late 1997, American Secretary of State Madeleine Albright began to distance the U.S. from the Taliban and the next year the American-based Unocal, previously having implicitly supported the Taliban in order to build a pipeline south from Central Asia, oil company withdrew from a major deal with the Taliban regime concerning an oil pipeline.

so who gave the taliban their power?


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#153 Posted by SR on March 12, 2009 12:57:30 pm
Read ONLY 152... disregard 151 and 150 ... as pre-edited
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#152 Posted by SR on March 12, 2009 12:55:00 pm
Re: # 113 (also # 114)

1 ["... it is fuck … not fuk..."]


Gentlemen, there is no question that it is much more satisfying to spell it correctly (not to mention that its even more satisfying to actually do it, -- provided the circumstances are right). Yet, we must all find ways to abide by the arbitrary enforcement of cyber-tyranny... Sometimes we can use 'fcuk', but that only works once. I had to repeat it several times so I opted for a phonetic proxy of the word, lest the mindless software tagged my message. I know that the editors simply don't have the time, nor would they give a fcuk.

2 ["... zeitgeist... "movie" as well as "addendum" … it makes a whole lot of ... sense ..."]

Quite a production that one was/is... impressive, to say the least. Agree or disagree with it, as we may, it reflects more of our inclination to believe, one way or the other, than it may represent "reality," -- whatever THAT nebulous concept means.

My "reality" these days has an added dimension that wasn't there in past years. Since coming to Pakistan, over the last two years, I have seen a side of life that most of our peers only read about in the occasional magazine article when some editor gives a nod and a wink to the alturistic sensibilities of his readership by allocating column space to 'the plight of the underclasses' by accommodating an article about, say, The Alarming Rise in XYZ Disease amongst the Poor Residents of Podunk village near Picturesque Hills of Richville ...

Qurat-ul-Ain Hayder's Aag ka Dirya seems to represent life on a vast scale in the winding, narrow passages of the kachi abadis where, ankle deep in muck and slime little children play every day, all the time. Sickness, squalor, putrid stench and resignation at their lot in life is what I see on a scale so massive that I didn't think existed in Pakistan. Somalia, Chad, and similar places, maybe, but not in Pakistan... that was what I used to think. But it's all here, right under our noses, yet most of us simply, honestly, do not know it exists, or if we do, we have a very distorted and diminished concept of it's scale. I tell you, we are sitting on the mouth of a volcano.

The senselessness and meaningless superficiality of the crap I see being discussed in these forums shows me how all of us, myself included, contorted, bent over between our legs, have our collective heads stuck so deep inside our own rear orifices that we are incapable of seeing anything except our own slimy crap... democrapy ... constitution ... judges ... army ... religion ... etc... etc... ALL of this is bull crap.

There are fire storms brewing under the surface that will explode one day and no will know where they came from. We shall see death and destruction on a scale that no one here is prepared for. I tell you, it is coming... The phenomenon might come disguised as a Pol Pot with an Islamic flavor -- that is my best guess.


...SR
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#151 Posted by SR on March 12, 2009 12:48:52 pm
Re: # 113 (also # 114)

1 ["... it is fuck … not fuk..."]


Gentlemen, there is no question that it is much more satisfying to spell it correctly (not to mention that its even more satisfying to actually do it, -- provided the circumstances are right). Yet, we must all find ways to abide by the arbitrary enforcement of cyber-tyranny... Sometimes we can use 'fcuk', but that only works once. I had to repeat it several times so I opted for a phonetic proxy of the word, lest the mindless software tagged my message. I know that the editors simply don't have the time, nor would they give a fcuk.

2 ["... zeitgeist... "movie" as well as "addendum" … it makes a whole lot of ... sense ..."]

Quite a production that one was/is... impressive, to say the least. Agree or disagree with it, as we may, it reflects more of our inclination to believe, one way or the other, than it may represent "reality," -- whatever THAT nebulous concept means.

My "reality" these days has an added dimension that wasn't there in past years. Since coming to Pakistan, over the last two years, I have seen a side of life that most of our peers only read about in the occasional magazine article when some editor gives a nod and a wink to the alturistic sensibilities of his readership by allocating column space to 'the plight of the underclasses' by accommodating an article about, say, The Alarming Rise in XYZ Disease amongst the Poor Residents of Podunk village near Picturesque Hills of Richville...

Qurat-ul-Ain Hayder's Aag ka Dirya seems to represent life on a vast scale in the winding, narrow passages of the kachi abadis where, ankle deep in muck and slime little children play every day, all the time. Sickness, squalor, putrid stench and resignation at their lot in life is what I see on a scale so massive that I didn't think existed in Pakistan. Somalia, Chad, and similar places, maybe, but not in Pakistan... that was what I used to think. But it's all here, right under our noses, yet most of us simply, honestly, do not know it exists, or if we do, we have a very distorted and diminished concept of it's scale. I tell you, we are sitting on the mouth of a volcano.

The senselessness and meaningless superficiality of the crap I see being discussed in these forums shows me how all of us, myself included, contorted, bent over between our legs, have our collective heads stuck so deep inside our own rear orifices that we are incapable of seeing anything except our own slimy crap... democrapy ... constitution ... judges ... army ... religion ... etc... etc... ALL of this is bull crap.

There are fire storms brewing under the surface that will explode one day and no will know where they came from. We shall see death and destruction on a scale that no one here is prepared for. I tell you, it is coming... The phenomenon might come disguised as a Pol Pot with an Islamic flavor -- that is my best guess.


...SR
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#150 Posted by SR on March 12, 2009 12:40:30 pm
Re: # 113 (also # 114)

1 ["... it is fuck … not fuk..."]


Gentlemen, there is no question that it is much more satisfying to spell it correctly (not to mention that its even more satisfying to actually do it, (provided the circumstances are right). Yet, we must all find ways abide by the arbitrary enforcement of cyber-tyranny... Sometimes we can use 'fcuk', but that only works once. I had to repeat it several times so I opted for the phonetic proxy of the word, lest the mindless software tagged my message. I know that the editors simply don't have the time, nor would they give a fcuk.

2 ["... zeitgeist... "movie" as well as "addendum" … it makes a whole lot of ... sense ..."]

Quite a production that one was/is... impressive, to say the least. Agree or disagree with it, as we may, it reflects more of our inclination to believe, one way or the other, than it may represent "reality," -- whatever THAT nebulous concept means.

My "reality" these days has an added dimension that wasn't there in past years. Since coming to Pakistan, over the last two years, I have seen a side of life that most of our peers only read about in the occasional magazine article when some editor gives a nod and a wink to the alturistic sensibilities of his readership by allocating column space to 'the plight of the underclasses' by accommodating an article about, say, The Alarming Rise in XYZ disease amongst the Residents of Podunk village near Picturesque Hills of Richville... Qurat-ul-Ain Hayder's Aag ka Dirya seems to represent life on a vast scale in the winding, narrow passages of the kachi abadis where, ankle deep in muck and slime little children play every day, all the time. Sickness, squalor, putrid stench and resignation at their lot in life is what I see on a scale so massive that I didn't think was true in Pakistan. Somalia, Chad, and similar places, maybe, but not in Pakistan... that was what I used to think. But it's all here, right under our noses, yet most of us simply, honestly, do not know it exists, or if we do, we have a very distorted and diminished concept of it's scale. I tell you, we are sitting on the mouth of a volcano.

The senselessness and meaningless superficiality of the crap I see being discussed in these forums shows me how all of us, myself included, bend over between our legs, have our collective heads stuck so deep inside our own rear orifices that we are incapable of seeing anything except our own slimy crap... democrapy ... constitution ... judges ... army ... religion ... etc... etc... ALL of this is bull crap. There are fire storms brewing under the surface that will explode one day and no will know where they came from. We shall see death and destruction on a scale that no one here is prepared for. I tell you, it is coming... The phenomenon will take the shape of Pol Pot with an Islamic flavor -- that is my best guess.


...SR
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