Karachi Could Bleed To Pakistan's Death

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krishna mian,

.... you know that there are no railroad tracks in space, do you? ...... pardon me, but somehow i find the whole idea of a srawny dhoti-clad hindoo in space rather ludicurous .... cartoonish, if you ask me .... if i were you i would first try and tackle the science of indoor plumbing ... you don't want to make a mess in space, do you?

Post-Iraq, would-be militants eye Pakistan

The flow of foreign militants to Pakistan worries Western governments, which fear the south Asian country has replaced Iraq as the place to go for aspiring Islamists planning attacks on the West....Now, porous borders, corrupt officials and inventive smugglers mean a determined foreigner has little problem simply entering Pakistan, experts say...

http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/05/06/post-iraq-would-be-mili tants-eye-pakistan/

which beduinod red flagged the post #622?

http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Muslim_astronaut_to_blast_off_durin g_Ramadan_999.html

My financial investment plans remain unchanged, the below report notwithstanding:

WASHINGTON DIARY: Two weeks notice —Dr Manzur Ejaz
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009�5�6\story_6-5-2 009_ pg3_3
On his one-hundredth day presidential address, President Barack Obama commented that Pakistan’s civilian government is ‘fragile’ and unable to deliver any services, and hence cannot win the hearts and minds of common Pakistanis. As Obama delivered these remarks, General David Petraeus issued a thinly veiled deadline of two weeks in which Pakistan’s existence would be determined.

What can one make of these seemingly inconsistent statements?

First of all, to clarify President Obama’s statement, one should realise that he did not intend to slight the civilian government in Pakistan. The thrust of his statement was more descriptive of the lack of resources to fulfil people’s demands in Pakistan. This also implied that, given the circumstances, no Pakistani civilian government could do much for the people.

Probably, the US knows that even Nawaz Sharif cannot do much under these circumstances. Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that President Obama would have sent any anti-government messages when he had already invited President Asif Zardari for parleys.

President Obama’s statement was tailored for the domestic US audience, explaining why the Pakistani civilian government cannot deliver much in the war against the Taliban. He was preparing the US public to give more financial assistance to Pakistan if needed. US officials have also increased the frequency of their meetings with Nawaz Sharif, which are meant to make sure that he does not try to exploit the anti-US sentiment in Pakistan against the fragile present government.

In this backdrop, the US is also clear on the point that the Pakistan Army, and not the civilian government, is the one to decide about the war against the Taliban. If the army can manifest its sincerity, the US will support Pakistan’s security, integrity and viability as a country. However, if the US determines that the Pakistan Army is allegedly playing the same old duplicitous game then it will not bother about Pakistan’s security and interests.

This means that under those circumstances, the US will disregard the sovereignty of Pakistan and take steps to safeguard its own interests. This is what Gen Petraeus has indicated in his statement; that the next two weeks will determine Pakistan’s survival.

If the US concludes that the Pakistan Army is not serious in fighting the Taliban, it will send its own troops into FATA, occupy it and make it a part of the Afghan war theatre. Furthermore, some believe that the matter will not end there.

Rumours are also abuzz that if the US gets very disappointed with Pakistan, it will invite the Indian army to take part in the Afghan campaign. Sources also indicate that India is willing to send 20,000 troops into FATA. It should be kept in mind that India is already running most of Afghanistan’s electricity and other infrastructure. Therefore, by infusing a large number of troops India will enhance its prevailing influence in Afghanistan. Probably, Gen Petraeus’ two-week deadline also implies such an eventuality.

In this background, though much of this is based on rumour and speculation, the military action in Buner and Swat is crucial. Some cynical observers have already concluded that the Pakistan Army is making noise but not doing much on the ground. However, the US is portraying the new military initiative as a hopeful sign. The prevailing view in Washington is that the Pakistan Army has come to its senses and realised that, at present, the country’s existence is threatened by Taliban and not by India.

President Asif Ali Zardari will be visiting the White House by the time this column is published. However, his visit will not change much. The US will remain focused on military action, knowing fully well that the civilian government cannot deliver much in the present circumstances

Re: # 606 Hamidm ustaad

May Allah be merciful to you and your family for showing me the light! I am transferring all my retirement savings to the Defence Savings Certificates!

I will be forever grateful to you!

RiazHaq sahib #618 I think it is an important question (i.e. what Pakistanis can learn from the US). You should not wave it aside by saying you have already answered it elsewhere.

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#622 nkg

[BTW, as part of SU30 deal, Russia allowed couple of Muslas from Malaysia to go on space...Instead of carrying out any experiment ( if anything was there), that bugger was trying to observe arabic rituals on space...]

Hahahaha.... un-fcukig-believable...

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Oh, I forgot to highlight:

If realized in the stated time-frame, India will become only the fourth nation, after the USSR, USA and China, to successfully carry out manned missions indigenously.

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madrassaBrain

Sub-Saharan Africa, eh, bedouin-reject?

[Geopolitical and economic considerations during the 1960s and 1970s compelled India to initiate its own launch vehicle program.[11] During the first phase (1960s-1970s) the country successfully developed a sounding rockets program, and by the 1980s, research had yielded the Satellite Launch Vehicle-3 and the more advanced Augmented Satellite Launch Vehicle (ASLV), complete with operational supporting infrastructure.[11] ISRO further applied its energies to the advancement of launch vehicle technology resulting in the creation of Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) and Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV) technologies.[11]

Satellite Launch Vehicle (SLV)
Status: Decommissioned
The Satellite Launch Vehicle, usually known by its abbreviation SLV or SLV-3 was a 4-stage solid-fuel light launcher. It was intended to reach a height of 500 km and carry a payload of 40 kg.[12] Its first launch took place in 1979 with 2 more in each subsequent year, and the final launch in 1982. Only two of its four test flights were successful.[13]

Augmented Satellite Launch Vehicle (ASLV)

Status: Decommissioned
The Augmented Satellite Launch Vehicle, usually known by its abbreviation ASLV was a 5-stage solid propellant rocket with the capability of placing a 150 kg satellite into LEO. This project was started by the ISRO during the early 1980s to develop technologies needed for a payload to be placed into a geostationary orbit. Its design was based on Satellite Launch Vehicle.[14] The first launch test was held in 1987, and after that 3 others followed in 1988, 1992 and 1994, out of which only 2 were successful, before it was decommissioned.[13]

Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV)
Status: Active
The Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle, usually known by its abbreviation PSLV, is an expendable launch system developed to allow India to launch its Indian Remote Sensing (IRS) satellites into sun synchronous orbits, a service that was, until the advent of the PSLV, commercially viable only from Russia. PSLV can also launch small satellites into geostationary transfer orbit (GTO). The reliability and versatility of the PSLV is proven by the fact that it has launched 30 spacecraft (14 Indian and 16 from other countries) into a variety of orbits so far.[15] In April 2008, it successfully launched 10 satellites a once, breaking a world record held by Russia.[16]

Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV)
Main article: GSLV
Status: Active
The Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle, usually known by its abbreviation GSLV, is an expendable launch system developed to enable India to launch its INSAT-type satellites into geostationary orbit and to make India less dependent on foreign rockets. At present, it is ISRO's heaviest satellite launch vehicle and is capable of putting a total payload of up to 5 tons to Low Earth Orbit.]

Re: # 608 hamidm: "It is - is there something Pakistan and Pakistanis can learn from the US? Too many Pakistanis are so busy finding fault in the US that they never have time to actively try to benefit from the US experience."

It's a very good question. I answered this question in a recent ilog titled: "Light a Candle, Do Not Curse Darkness". Please take a look at it. Feel free to leave a comment there.

You are also welcome to read a number of blog posts I have written on this subject in my personal blog. You can search for it by my name.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4 0293&sectionid=4&issueid=104&Itemid=1

madrassaAlumnus,


This is a better report:


Breakthrough for GTRE scientists – develop marine version of the Kaveri engine news


Bangalore-based Gas Turbine Research Establishment, part of the chain of laboratories operating under the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), has achieved a significant breakthrough by developing a modified marine version of the Kaveri engine, which it has been developing for the country's Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme.

The marine version is a spin-off, which is capable of generating shaft power for Indian naval ships. Using the Kaveri engine core, GTRE scientists have added low pressure compressor and turbine as a gas generator and designed a free power turbine to generate shaft power.

The Kaveri Marine Gas Turbine (KMGT), as it has been named, has been transported to the naval dockyard at Vishakhapatnam and installed on the marine gas turbine test-bed. This is an Indian Navy facility, capable of testing gas turbines of up to 25 MW of shaft power through a reduction gearbox and a water brake dynamometer.

The Indian Navy has been involved in the development of the engine and has participated in the test phase.


The engine has been tested to its potential of 12 MW at ISA SL 35°C condition, which is the requirement of the Indian Navy to propel the Rajput class of ships. The engine has also been demonstrated before the prime minister, Dr Manmohan Singh.

With this development, India becomes self-reliant in the technology of gas turbines for ship propulsion, and puts the country in the same league of nations as the USA, Russia, UK and Ukraine, who posses the capability to design and manufacture marine gas turbine engines.

madrassaAlumnus

I realize that in Pakiworld - in the world of alternate reality, India is less developed than sub-Saharan Africa. So I'll try to send more educational material for your madrassa-brain to try and absorb.