Chaos – Thy Name is Pakistan

Yes Pew Research, I've read it. Good that you've read it too.

Muqaddam,

I live there. Most of what you see here is media hype. Chowk-wallahs have been predicting Pakistan's demise for over 10 years now. So keep hoping and praying. We are not going away though.


Masadi,

Why are you obsessed with me? You are an insignificant little foolish man who isn't taken seriously. You should hear some of the things your "colleagues" say about you. Please don't bother with me... you would have to climb many shoulders before we can meet eye to eye on anything bhai. Know your auqaat bhai.


Azadkhayal,

What I meant was that we've lived through the terrorist threats... and yes the chaos that is going on in Islamabad.. with taiban threatening to blow up our schools and children. I am here in California on vacation this month. I will return to Pakistan come June. You guys have got it wrong.


What is happening in Swat is the logical extension of the war on terror. If we've decided to fight this war, we have to realize that this war is going to be fought in our streets. Why then should you or anyone else hark back to choices and decisions made a good 70 years ago? Frankly I don't understand and it is now a worthless exercise. That is all I am saying.

Tahir sahib, it is outrageous that these miserable chowkstaff publish this nonsense and censor article upon article of others they don't agree with. Also, Manto is a charlatan, he wants exclusive representation of the Pakistani view based on his Jinnah worship. He boasts about his BBC interviews while at the same time wants to block the voice of much more concerned Pakistanis overseas that the dumbass BBC. Don't fall for his BS.

TNITC masadi

This is not an isolated incident, as many apologists would like one to believe

But because of the myopic ap-proach of the people who matterthat a strange story' was heard atthe Punjabi Khojgarh. The man-agers booked a sound system forthe function from Kasur. All thedetails were settled and moneywas advanced to the- shopkeep-er. But at later stage the shop-keeper inquired for what pur-pose the system was going to beused. When he came to knowthat a seminar has been ar-ranged in memory of BabaNanak, the shopkeeper immedi-ately returned the advance pay-ment and excused that thesound system must not Ik; usedfor Kafirs. Meaning thereby thatTalibans arc not only found 1the tribal or NWFP areas onlybut also 111 the Kasur of BabaBullen Shah.

What baffles me is that non muslims, suffering from inferiority complexes or stockholm syndrome, worry about muslims' feelings, and go dumb an mute at the suffering of berthern"

Despite dominating politics, police force army and a united voting majority block in India, How could muslims be at a disadvantage?

and is it hindu/sikh fault that muslims didn't own more land or businesses, under an impartial British governance? It was their own jahaliyat They are far behind Hindus and Sikhs in the USA as far as economic success is concerned. Whose fault is that?

Should we create a Pakistan in the USA too?

Rubbish being repeated here!!

Re: # 29 Dost

Your assessment is purely subjective lacking any rigor, and fails to take into account that a majority Muslim state with Muslims wielding political power in the Punjab for the first time in a few hundred years would have benefited them. You are not figuring the cost of lost opportunity from higher defense spending. If the benefits were so apparent, then you would have thought that the Unionists would have supported it at the outset, no?

Re: # 29 Dost

Your assessment is purely subjective lacking any rigor, and fails to take into account that a majority Muslim state with Muslims wielding political power in the Punjab for the first time in a few hundred years would have benefited them. You are not figuring the cost of lost opportunity from higher defense spending. If the benefits were so apparent, then you would have thought that the Unionists would have supported it at the outset, no?

Re: # 8
Manto,

"So please... atleast those Pakistanis who live abroad spare us Pakistanis who live in the country. This is an appeal to your sense of reason and balance.

They just don't get it! I've essentially said the same to them so many times through articles and posts. THIS is one of the reasons behind the bans imposed on me!

Dost mittar: #25:
I had forgotten my password and couldn't log-in. I tried using "freethinker" with a different password but it was rejected because it was already being used. So I had to change my complete identity.
I am surprised that you noticed.
Mohammad Gill

For the umtieeth time:

Pakistan was created by hate; not 'feelings of muslims', by a self interested hypocrite, who wouldn't have given a damn about muslim feelings if he was elected the president of Congress or given a position within new India. He was too dangerous for Nehru and his self interests......so, he played the muslim card...

that is imminent

so long chowk members, my banning is eminent...

TNITC masadi

oh I forgot, the shrink and Gill and that Al-Gore rep woman here, forget her name, they are CHOWK STAFF.

TNITC masadi

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Pew:

Of course, the Unionists wanted a unite Punjab. They were Punjabis and had no problem with fellow Hindu and Sikh Punjabis. They associated with Jinnah primarily because Nehru foolishly made it plain that their future would be grim in Nehru's India.

I am not denying that Punjabi Muslims were the last to join the movement for a separate homeland, they did not feel inferior, unlike their Bengali counterparts, but this is not to deny that they have benefited from the Partition.

Re: # 27 Dost

I doubt if your assessment would have been supported by the Unionists. Had they known that Pakistan would involve Partition of Punjab, they would certainly not have supported the Muslim League. However, as events came to pass, the notion of Punjab's partition was so far away from their minds, that they never contemplated it.

The same applies to Bengal - had the Bengal League known that Partition of Bengal was in the future with Calcutta going to India, they would likely never have supported it.

Indeed, Jinnah (incorrectly) thought that Congress would not accept Partition. Congress did to Jinnah's dismay.

Pew:

You notice that I did not mention political domain. The political landscape was dominated by feudal landlords - the Unionist Party was actually known as "Zamindara Party" in Punjabi and its deputy chief was a Hindu jaat by the name Sir Chhotu Ram.