Chaos – Thy Name is Pakistan

#101:
P_R, you seem to be saying MAJ was not in favour of partitioning the subcontinent but that he would have accepted unpartitioned Punjab and Bengal.

I am curious what the word 'accept' here means. On the face of it, it would seem the question of accepting or not only arises in the context of a partitioning of the subcontinent.

Perhaps I am not reading this right.

Re: # 102
rf786,

Your nick tells me you're a 786-worshipper, right?

"Religion has no business in the formation or functioning of Government, totally agreed."

Do repeat the same non-sense before God on Judgement Day and in the presence of the Prophet who achieved what he acheived after being guided aright through religion.

Now I don't mean that we ought to hand over our joystick to the misguided mullahs; their is no place in Islam for mullah anarchy or monarchy.

Re: # 94

Manto (not the literary giant) via Mr. Asadi:

"It causes one to behave in an undignified manner."

Sure, THIS website has a huge problem; many times I've seen a hand emerge from my keyboard and force me to write things I don't even think about! Chowq'a bans are hence illegal.

:)

Re: # 91
Ganja,

There's no issue with your parents (the only 'issue' is you!), but nevertheless I'd request you to stay away from your 'addicted to porn' habit; this is what tripped Manto, and look where he wound up.

As for my comment ["May the worms happily feed upon your tongue (in a dark Rabwah grave) for uttering filth against my family"], your joy ["how much I enjoyed this piece of invective, what a marvellously vitriolic piece of rhetoric"] has been noted with pleasure.

In my heart I do pray for Chowq's misguided cases.

:)

Gill Sahib

Religion has no business in the formation or functioning of Government, totally agreed.

Re: # 99 Your question is not clear.

Jinnah had himself taken the initiative in the Central Assembly to get a resolution passed supporting the provincial part of Govt of India Act 1935 which specified that provincial governments would be responsible to legislative majorities in provincial assemblies.

If Jinnah wanted to reject the constitutional status of legislative majorities in UP and other Hindu majority provinces(as he did in 1937), he should have said so earlier.

#90:
"Both acknowledge that Partition was not on Jinnah's mind (or at least the Partition of Punjab/Bengal - although he would have accepted unpartitioned Punjab/Bengal)"

How does one 'accept' something in a non-partitioned India ?

One of the reasons Pakistan was created was also that the Americans and their British allies were fearful of Southward expansion of the Soviet Union towards the Arabian Sea. Pakistan was created to act as a buffer against USSR. Soon after creation, it was taken into the fold of American bloc making it a member of CENTO and other such treaties.
Had India been one, the British were certain this would have not been possible.
It is another matter that Zia ul Haque later played on these very fears during the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan to extract goodies from the Americans which he famously called peanuts.
Of course, along with the goodies for the generals of Pakistan army, this policy also brought for the Pakistani state Afghan refugees who wont go away, Talibs, drugs , gun running without which it could have done.
Messy foreign policy right from its inception, one has to say.

points like #95 and not #233- correction

BTW points like #233 and others that point to real facts on the ground were the ones using which I mopped chowk floors with Manto's greasy hair, he was thoroughly and completely defeated and those that read and remember will bear witness to that fact....

TNITC masadi

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Manto writes "Anyway... this is the problem with this website. It causes one to behave in an undignified manner."

Don't try to cover up your own shortcoming by blaming the website. It is your dirty maggot infested soul that often reveals itself everywhere......and refer to me as SIR from now on you moron, I am your intellectual superior

TNITC masadi

Majumdar you right wing lunatic (with apologies), since when did 'democracy' become giving morons a free ride to the FP and others 'garbage space' in ilogs and unplugged? And you call that democracy and freedom of speech. You really are a lunatic of the right wing sort. And your 'equilibrium' theory of a three nation solution is BS.

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"May the worms happily feed upon your tongue (in a dark Rabwah grave) for uttering filth against my family"

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I don't want to comment on any of this discussion, and remain neutral on what is being said, but I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this piece of invective, what a marvellously vitriolic piece of rhetoric.