Demise of Pukhtoon Nation

Re: # 81 Zeena...

hhhhmmmmmm........nice observation.

All throughout history pukhtoons have been portrayed as brave, big-hearted, kind, gentle, etc. conveniently ignoring their acts of treachery, laziness, corrupt, greedy, and of late women-beating, beheading etc. I think it is time to get the real picture.

And don't forget the anthrax attack which finally ended up as domestic terrorism by a US govt. Employee.

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Did you say not a single installation was targeted?
Here is the list:
from Wikipedia: # July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.
# December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a “memorial lamp� for an abortion she had had there.
# September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and then started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions, however Edgerton is not an abortion clinc.
# April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.
# May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[20]
# December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Altman’s girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.
# January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness [22]rammed a SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.

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Re: # 74
hasho...
It is almost general agreement that, when you are treating musla terrorists, don't bring into HUMAN RIGHTS into consideration...these creatures are beyond recitification, so why value them as human...
Civil Society (specialy human righgts activists) will definitely raise hue and cry about all these TADA/Home Land Security Acts etc..., but after next allahooo kaboom, they will blame the administration for inaction...

I realy appreciate Bushes gitmo experiment...
After 2001, not a single US installation was targetted, where as India, entire europe have seen large number of islamic terrorism from 2001 to 2008...every country needs some gitmo...

Dems are back in the office; gitmo will be closed...we may see couple of allahoo kabooms in US installations accross the world...

Gitmo was the Hell, to avoid which musla terrosists even sacrificed arabic moon god's Heaven with 72 regular bathing virgins....

We need gitmos everywhere....

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Glen Greenwald:

"We're currently occupying two Muslim countries. We're killing civilians regularly (as usual) -- with airplanes and unmanned sky robots. We're imprisoning tens of thousands of Muslims with no trial, for years. Our government continues to insist that it has the power to abduct people -- virtually all Muslim -- ship them to Bagram, put them in cages, and keep them there indefinitely with no charges of any kind. We're denying our torture victims any ability to obtain justice for what was done to them by insisting that the way we tortured them is a "state secret" and that we need to "look to the future." We provide Israel with the arms and money used to do things like devastate Gaza. Independent of whether any or all of these policies are justifiable, the extent to which those actions "inflame anti-American sentiment" is impossible to overstate.

And now, the very same people who are doing all of that are claiming that they must suppress evidence of our government's abuse of detainees because to allow the evidence to be seen would "inflame anti-American sentiment." It's not hard to believe that releasing the photos would do so to some extent -- people generally consider it a bad thing to torture and brutally abuse helpless detainees -- but compared to everything else we're doing, the notion that releasing or concealing these photos would make an appreciable difference in terms of how we're perceived in the Muslim world is laughable on its face."

Hasho: The joke is that the taliban are running like rats, shaving off their beards, tossing aside their fancy masks, the first time they run into men armed with guns...as opposed to helpless captives or 17 year old girls...

The joke of the last week was the US claim that the Taliban used white Phosphorous in Afghanistan.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6269646.ece

Many in the media jumped on this nonsense from the Pentagon and the US army officers. If that was not enough two days ago one more US army officer denied using the WP. A little Google would reveal reports in NYT that confirm the use of White Phosphorous by the US army.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/asia/20ambush.html?_r=1&ref =world&pagewanted=all

Forget about the poor Pathan, they are being killed by everyone including those who proudly like to have pakhtoon last names on their kala kaloota thobra.

The new story is that now the CIA and the Democratic Party are up to their chins in another turf battle between the different sections of the US admin. The CIA directly attacked the second in line to be the President, Nancy Pelosi as being complicit in the torture decision. This is a replay of Joe Wilson story concocted and released by the CIA about the Yellow Cake and Non existence of WMD in Iraq, a story that doomed the Bush administration.

While that story was picking up steam, the Abu Gharib pictures came back in the news. The O admin, under threat from the Pentagon, backed out from its promise to release the remaining Abu Gharib pictures.

Originally, the Abu Gharib Pictures were released to demoralize the resistance in Iraq. There was no way those picture would have seen the light of the day, had someone higher up in the Pentagopn and Dick Cheney’s office not Okayed the release. The Pictures were released as leak, but is there anyone who bought that story? The pictures left the prison and then Iraq and finally were leaked from the Pentagon vault. What a joke that was.

Any American soldier or officer would piss in his pant multiple times before daring to leak those pictures w/o the explicit permission from the Pentagon.

Abu Ghraib pictures were a response to the Videos of beheadings in Iraq that were released on the Net to demoralize the US army. Abu Gharib pictures were the US response that backfired in a huge way after the Bush Admin was caught in a lie (leaked by the CIA) about the WMD, the Abu gharib pictures shamed all Americans and America lost any moral high ground it held after the beheading videos.

Now we are witnessing a stream of protests and condemnation by some outstanding Americans. Glen Greenwald has phenomenal posts about these issues for the last two consecutive days. Even Daily Kos, the unofficial mouthpiece of the Democratic Party, has gotten in to the act in roundly criticizing the O admin for acting like the Bush Admin.

In one week, the White Phosphorous, the torture leaks and the CIA vs. Nancy Pelosi and now the Abu ghraib pictures have shown successive US administrations are bereft of any humanitarian concerns.

The most civilized country in the world is not ready to commit one civilized act and own up the responsibility for the past misdeed.

I salute my fellow Americans that are rising up and demanding that the O administration behave in a responsible manner.


PS. In another story Gen. Petraeus
claimed that Al Qaeda No Longer Operating in Afghanistan
he said the terrorist group has suffered" very significant losses" in recent months, and agreed with Afghan President Hamid Karzai's recent assessment that there is no Al Qaeda based in his country.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/10/petraeus-al-qaeda-longer-operatin g-afghanistan/

What the F are you doing in Afghanistan then?

...and Guru, how is Kasab Bhayee?

Islam which divides people into Kafir and believer, pure and unpure, chosen and not-so chosen increases sense of "I" the ego. The Force, The surce of Conciousness leaves the place where ego exists. Baki gandus who talk a lot of Islam are the least spiritual and adharmic (behaving according to Natural law of Unity, Love and Justice) folks.

Few months back for most Baki gandus Kasab was a hero and a pure Talib.

Guru,
You should write a book - "Connecting All the Dots on a Blank Piece of Paper." :)

who is talib?

Was Mohammed a talib? Didn't he created armed legion to enslave and rule other folks? Did he also not learned and perfected the tricks of imperialism and exploitation of Romans by concocting a drug by mixing Allaha and Army? This he could afford to do because he was married to a rich old lady. Todays talibs are probably little better than him as they come from poor strata of the society. Granted both, todays Talib and Mohammed have probably same criminal, low consciousness.

How about our recent chikna Dracualla (MAJ)? Didn't he tried to convert whole of Kolkata into Khuni Chowk of Mingora for the locals ie, Hindus, in 1946 on Direct Action Day? This gandu was also rich and anglicized to rule other folks. Todays Molla Omar and Mehsud Talibs are much better human than this gandu.

nkg #67 {"If there is a mole of honesty left within Paki admin...they should divert fund, they have received from USA, starting fom the time of Russian - Afghanistan conflict to this region"}

nkg,
It's probably going to snow in Mumbai, because I do agree with you. In addition to investing in NWFP and improving the health, education, and infrastructure for the Pathans, there should be an end to the FATA nonsense. Either FATA is part of Pakistan or it is not.

Khyber #64 {"YOUR POST IS A REALITY OF 21IST CENTURY,thats what is needed in Pakistani society,unfortunately Pakistani elite used religion for their political gains and mullah always played as their pimp.I personally think that religious fanaticism was started in Pakistan,when AHMADIS were declared non-Muslims which was against the philosophy of Jinnah."}

Dear Khyber,
Yes, our moolas and their unreliable allies among the feudals, the army, and the elite class are the true enemies of Pakistan, its people, and Islam. These insidious and selfish people keep creating conditions of adversity from which it takes decades, if not generations, for our people to recuperate. Meanwhile, the creme de la creme enjoys the toppings. But let's remain hopeful, the people are getting wiser. First to fall was the army, next will be the moolas, then the real devils - the feudals and the bureaucrats.