Demise of Pukhtoon Nation

Re: # 34....what this fool Imran Khan is thinking now. Imran K brain is fried,he cant think ne more.

Khyber #32 agreed that while it was a good gesture on the part of Nawaz Sharif, his party has been less than satisfactory on the Swat issue. I think after gaining in popularity after its correct stand on the Supreme Court issue, the PMLN has foolishly decided to take this popularity for granted.

PS: It would be interesting to see what this fool Imran Khan is thinking now.

This moron in #31 who says "Swat will rise again"- didn't give a damn about that area and its poverty before the U.S. got interested in it for their farcical GWOT. Now a massive propaganda effort is in place to build up the Pakistan Army (a hated institution in Pakistan) by showing gruesome videos of beheadings and what not. Don't think that these opportunistic uses of 'humanity' that the pakistan army lacks will convince those who know the massive damage to the nation this army has done, more so than this taliban BS going on thousands of times over. This crap only fools the dimwits and the sellouts (like tahmed) who realize well that every U.S. missile fired in this 'game' and all the fuel wasted in flying those mosquitoes and second hand f-16s can provide three times square meals for tens of thousands of needy Pakistanis- that should be the PRIORITY of the government of Pakistan not this crap that is going on...

posting on behalf of masadi sahib
CWM2

#24 Posted by tahmed32...it was of course nice gesture of NAWAZ SHARIF visiting IDP camps,but I think his party men are not on same page with him,DAWN.COM IS JUST REPORTING THIS.....Which is disturbing,i am gettin tired of these guys repeating again for talkin to those thugs.
ISLAMABAD: Questions were raised in the National Assembly on Wednesday about the army operation in Swat and Malakand districts and a Pakistan Muslim League-N lawmaker warned of a severe turmoil in the country if immediate remedial measures were not taken.

In a departure from the sentiments expressed in the house in previous days, Khawaja Saad Rafiq said that a majority of MNAs would like to keep away from the proceedings of the house because they felt it has turned into a debating club rather than a sovereign body which should take major national decisions.

They felt that the policies pursued by Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf remained basically unchanged. He said that while the US and UK urged Sri Lanka to stop military offensive against Tamil rebels they expected Pakistan to ‘do more’ if they wanted to get more dollars.

He said: ‘No doubt, Taliban’s understanding of Islam and their fanatic ideas about imposition of Islam are not acceptable to any Pakistani and their negative attitude is putting Pakistan on the defensive.’


http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn /news/pakistan/12-eyebrows-raised-over-swat-action--bi-09

Khyber: Well said. As for Mullah Diesel and Co,, here is one solution this Swati gentleman (in the letter published in the News today that I have posted below) has for Mullah Diesel and his kind (see in bold letters at the end).

btw, I disagree with the letter writer when he says "Swat will never be the same". Inshallah, Swat will rise again - as the most beautiful part of Pakistan, its peaceful people secure and prosperous. Ameen.


Thursday, May 14, 2009
My beloved Swat, once known as paradise on earth and Switzerland of the East, is now fighting for life. We have become homeless in our own homeland. The sights of small children and aged persons, walking barefooted to safety and a toddler, fast asleep in a camp with blisters on his feet and flies on his rosy cheeks are really heartbreaking. I salute the general public for having welcomed the IDPs with open arms and vacating their own houses so that the traumatised people could get some comfort. On the other hand 'Maulana Diesel' has the cheek to walk out of the assembly for not having been consulted on the operation. Does he think that the government should have continued to let the people get killed till His Majesty was back from his trip abroad? And where is Asfandyar Wali, the great champion of Pakhtun causes? Probably cooling his heels off in a foreign country while the people who voted him to power are stranded in sweltering heat with no shelter, no water, no food, no nothing.

I know Swat will never be like what it was but I have no doubt that given a chance, its people will throw the likes of Fazlur Rehman and Asfandyar Wali into the Arabian Sea.

Wng cdr (r) Bahre Kamal

Peshawar

The poisonous propaganda pursued as usual by the leadership of Jamaat-e- Islami against the ongoing military operation, for the elimination of extremists, in Swat is highly deplorable. The nation has not yet forgotten the role of 'al-Shams' and 'al-Badar' the hierarchical killing squads of the Jamaat-e-Islami in the then East Pakistan. Were Bengalis not Muslims or less Muslims than us? Why the Jamaat-e-Islami along with other religious bands did fight the war of American capitalism against Red Army of SOVIET UNION and called it Jihad? How can you go on Jihad with Lucifer or its followers? This intervention in collaboration with the Jamaat-e-Islami and the likeminded elements laid ground for the infrastructure of today's extremism and its entire related nuisance. We as a nation must demonstrate our unity, faith and discipline by supporting our brave soldiers who are out to defend the ideological and geographical boundaries of Pakistan against the scourge of "extremism" which is totally disowned, discouraged rather banned in Islam.

http://thepathans.blogspot.com/

and interestingly there's a website

www.islamabadobserver.com

showing beheading of Pakistani Regular Soldiers!

Hypocrites of Jammat islami,are criticizing Army action against criminals,thugs,fanatics and Imran Khan has ofcorse joined them too,these hpocrites of religious parties and failed politicain imran khan for gets that, these criminals are destroying entire Pakistan,Why the JI and other religious outfits are silent and don’t take out processions and condemn these horrible acts and actors? pashtuns know, by birth, how to handle a gun so these extremists shouldn’t play with our patience, tables can be turned and the peaceful pashtun majority can be transformed into full scale lava of revenge. hope this time our security forces finish their job and let no “extremist� live and breathe on our sacred soil…!





http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/

Pashtun experience of the last 30 years tells us that the firepower, muscle and sentiments of a people could be used for the interests of others resulting in self-destruction. A modern state that represents the people can envisage the collective future and lead them to a path of prosperity and peace. Pashtuns were merging into the states of Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have seen poets, politicians and educationist of repute emerge. State building has been the problem in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Democracy has faced challenge from traditional power structures, an over-stretching ambitious military and foreign intervention. At this point, we have the world's strongest military stationed in Afghanistan to conduct an operation against those who carried out acts of terror in New York and London. There is war but there is a chance to use the attention of global powers into neutralising the indigenous threats to the people, democracy, modern state and progress. The elite will like to make out with the hefty amounts of aid but it is up to the people to make sure that community building, state-building and democracy stays on top of the re-building agenda. Use of media to advance political cause of the people could play an important role. But a cool-headed analysis and investigation and a realistic/scientific laying out of objectives and priorities is vital. Education is not a choice anymore. It is the only way to survival. We do not have a state or political parties that could be honest representatives, so it falls on the shoulders of the educated few, individuals who feel for the misery of their people.

Writing my opinion cannot change anything but I can atleast try to put some sense into you

Pakistan is one nation formed on TWO NATION THEORY, and even above that we are muslims. No one is going to ask you in the after life if u were a pushtun.

The way you are trying to incite people is insane, do not provoke anyone, if at all anything happens because of your actions, you will be held responsible by God.

Your statement that pushtuns can only perish or make the other perish and others like that are absurd, this is not what God wants.

Mr. Farhad,
The people living in north of your people ( Pakhtunistan) got moral, technial etc. etc. from Russia...People living south of Pakhtunistan are those who received massive technical and infrastructural boost during British rule and indic influence.....I can see successful beduinisation of people living in south of you guys...and if US stops aiding Pakistanis and take away nuke weapon, it will be field day for you guys for sure....

Khyber #20 Afsandyar Wali Khan and Zardari both seem to be on summer vaction in Europe while the people they claim to represent are undergoing a calamity.

On the other hand, the PMLN leadership is all in Pakistan, and in fact Nawaz Sharif is the only major political figure to have actually visited the IDP camps. And MQM has redeemed itself for its anti-Pakistan actions of May 12 by standing up for Pakistan at this time of need. And many in ANP seem connected as well.

So - there is hope yet that Pakistan will come out of this calamity with those harping on ethnicity or "Islam" being exposed as frauds.

Fixing the Taliban problem is tied to Pakistan. With the Taliban deeply entrenched in tribal areas, this is going to be a long war. But for its own survival and stability, Pakistan must defeat the Taliban,its time to kill Taliban leadership,no more arrests etc..just kill them including thug she-mullah in burqa of lal masjid.

They say that a mistake made once is a mistake. Mistake made twice is a coincidence and a mistake made thrice is a habit. The government of Pakistan has made deals with the Tehrik-i-Nifaz-i-Shariat-e-Muhammadi chief Maulana Sufi Muhammad two times before and both times the TNSM broke the deal and started fighting again. The government gave TNSM and the Taliban of Swat a chance for peace by accepting their deal and enforcing their law in Swat. But the TNSM and the Swat Taliban went against their deal by invading Buner district. Breaking the deal the third time just shows that the TNSM and the Swat Taliban are not interested in peace. The government and Army should not discuss any thing more with the TNSM except their total surrender. I would also like to ask the media to stop publishing statement of the TNSM and their chief Maulana Sufi Muhammad in the newspapers anymore. These people should be considered enemies of the state and nothing related to them should be published or shown in the media of Pakistan.

http://pukhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/

Taliban should cease to be amongst us now or in the future is accepted by all sane thinking people of Pakistan, living in Pakistan or outside. Wiping the Taliban is unavoidable if Pakistan is to survive. Non-combatant casualties are inevitable. When the World War II was going on from 1939, Germany invaded Russia in 1941. By 1945, the victorious Russian troops were in Berlin. During this period, 27 million Russian soldiers and civilians lost their lives—--a sacrifice which has resulted in a reinvigorated Russia. If sacrifices are to be made by us, we must be ready for them.

Re: # 10..tahmed32...so called champion of pukhtun rights ASFAND WALI is not in pakistan at this moment of critical time,so is other leadership from PML-N/Q..etc..what that tells u ?how much they care about people of Pakistan,they signed a deal with fanatic Taliban just to save their lives,non of these so called politicians said anything when these fanatics were burning schools,banning girls from going to schools,Talibans are ignorant religious fanatics,thugs and criminals.