Demise of Pukhtoon Nation

A little google on the Taliban issue, and suddenly the focus shifts from Pashtoon to Saudi-backed Wahhabi agenda disguised under the mainstream Islam. These blood-thirsty, throat-slitters, fixed-minded, terrorists are running multi-dimensional organizations and attracting un-educated, oft unaware mainstream muslims to join their madness under the pre-text of Islamic puritism and anti-American movement. Do you know how many political parties, student movements, jihadi organizations, religious schools and mosques are directly funded by Saudi petrodollars. It would be worth your time if you do little web search starting from Taliban on Wikipedia.

Just read this eye opener and you’ll not be surprised over what’s happening with Pashtoons, and what eventually will happen to rest of us.

http://www.basicsproject.org/reports/wahabbi_oragnziations_north_america. pdf

Also see how our dearest religious political party has taken stance on army’s cleanup operation.

http://www.jamaat.org/new/urdu/

(I apologize to those who can not read Urdu)

Card Carrying Members of 1400 year old MoonSanto Corp., look what you have been doing:
"Through this column, I want to say one thing to both Allah and India: the people of Muridke should be forgiven. To Allah: it is enough punishment to have to live in Muridke that there is no need for any cross-examination on Doomsday. To India: the fact that Lashkar-e-Taiba members are located in Muridke means there is no need for a surgical strike.

I am saying this because I am 38 and I am still trying to get rid of the ghosts of a childhood spent in Muridke. There are certain images which no amount of THC, or Xanax or Cipralex has been able to erase.

One of them is this: once, after finishing school, I went to my grandmother's home on the canal which divides Hadoke from Muridke. After placing my schoolbag in the verandah, I went to the bank of the canal to join other kids whom I had spotting before entering the house. As I came to the bank, the kids started shouting "oye laash" (oh a corpse) and pointing at something in the canal. I also joined them. It was a human corpse with its throat slit in such a way that the head seemed to be floating slightly above the body.

I ran back home and told the aunts and uncles. They all told me to forget about it. I asked why nobody was taking the murdered human being out of the water and telling the police. The unanimous answer was "whoever tells the police will automatically become the first suspect."

For a kid, it meant there was nowhere to turn to if somebody beat you to a pulp on the way to school. It is still the way things are for the majority of the disenfranchised people in Muridke. Mind you, when you are a child and when going to another city is an annual adventure, your own city is your entire universe. If your city is a picture of lawlessness, your entire universe is lawless. There is no solace: nowhere to run to.

Another image that I have been trying to get rid of is linked with the absence of an adequate healthcare system. I don't even know to which disease I lost three brothers when they were still infants. There are only certain images: a bunch of relatives looking for a doctor in the middle of a foggy winter night, carrying a child, still unnamed, wrapped in blankets and going from one closed clinic to another, then another mound of dirt in the Hadoke graveyard.

At another time, after my parents had tried several shabby clinics, somebody suggested the sacrifice of a rabbit as penance or something. Soon a rabbit was slaughtered in the middle of the unpaved yard, the sharp red outline of the pool of blood soaking in the bright brown earth under the afternoon sun is difficult to erase.

Another image is associated with the heroine trade of the Ziaul Haq era. Some families had found heroine a profitable business and soon they were fighting mafia-style running battles among themselves for total control over profits. At nights, when all the meek of the earth bolted their doors, there was the sound of smugglers coming and going. The panicked whispers. The hustle and bustle of weapons being transferred. Then one night, there was an insistent knock on one door and someone going hoarse: "Hurry up. Open up. I have bumped off the opponent." We all stayed put. Then in the morning it was a normal school day as if nothing had happened. Nobody was even mentioning it. Perhaps they all knew even whispering about it could become a curse.

Now, as someone who dabbles in social theory, I believe Muridke is a microcosm of all the policies our government has pursued since 1947 after abandoning the idea of social justice and a welfare state.

Email: urrehman@gmail.com "

You are genetically modified by MoonSanto. Where is Mad-Sad-ArabI aka ex-Pandit MandarMultankar aka masadi. It seems India needs to drop Bhola from Michigan with bum in hand gree candle in his butt. What do you think?

From Michigan to Mayurbhanj....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI8znGJcF-k

Re: # 93 nkg

- "we have to tolerate Congress for next five years..." Congress is better than BJP and the left, maya, mulayam, Lalu, TDP, Amma and so many other parties. BJP's loud and agressive posturing is not suitable in international relations.

- "they will try to project "bachhra" (Rahul gandhi) for next PM". I guess not. He would be suitable after 5 years. But there is no denying that he has been been touring the country at the grass roots level for the last 3 years and knows the real ground situation than many other leaders today.

- "we are allowing muslas to be part of voting process...This is very ugly". You have expressed your views about indian muslims and the final solution umpteen times, but it is not feasible. You need to accept the fact. The native muslims have as much rights and duties as any other Indian of any other religion. I would agree to your statement when applied to the Bangladeshi migrants.

Re: # 94 sjunaidn...,''Pashtun (aka Pathan) frontier tribes – collectively mislabeled `Taliban’ by western media - are up in arms again because they are being bombed by US Predator drones.'''
I don't know what media reports you are talking about,CRIMINALS AND THUGS, TALIBAN are not representatives of Puhktuns and majority of pukhtuns living in tribal areas are in favor of U.S. drone attacks,The Aryana Institute for Regional Research and Advocacy, a think tank of researchers and political activists from the NWFP and FATA, Between last November and January AIRRA sent five teams, each made up of five researchers, to the parts of FATA that are often hit by American drones, to conduct a survey of public opinion about the attacks. The team visited Wana (South Waziristan), Ladda (South Waziristan), Miranshah (North Waziristan), Razmak (North Waziristan) and Parachinar (Kurram Agency). The teams handed out 650 structured questionnaires to people in the areas. The questionnaires were in Pashto, English and Urdu. The 550 respondents (100 declined to answer) were from professions related to business, education, health and transport. Following are the questions and the responses of the people of FATA.

-- Do you see drone attacks bringing about fear and terror in the common people? (Yes 45%, No 55%)

-- Do you think the drones are accurate in their strikes? (Yes 52%, No 48%)

-- Do you think anti-American feelings in the area increased due to drone attacks recently? (Yes 42%, No 58%)

-- Should Pakistan military carry out targeted strikes at the militant organisations? (Yes 70%, No 30%)

-- Do the militant organisations get damaged due to drone attacks? (Yes 60%, No 40%)

A group of researchers at AIRRA draw these conclusions from the survey.
Your term,'' growing rebellion''is also wrong,not only pukhtuns but majority of people in other cities are also suffering because of Criminal,thugs,terrorists in Pakistan and majority of Pakistanis from KHYBER TO KARACHI are supporting military action against these criminals of Alquida who are financed by the enemies of Pakistan.

Pakistan is among the world’s poorest nations. Half its people are illiterate. Most subsist on $1.13 daily. The feudal landowning elite, only .5% of the population, holds over 90% of national wealth. Corruption engulfs everything. Democracy is a sham; the legal system a cruel joke.

Islamic law, however draconian, offers the only justice that cannot be bought. Growing resistance movements in Northwest Frontier and Baluchistan call for national leadership that represents Pakistan’s rather than western interests. Pakistanis are humiliated by being forced by the US and Britain to wage war against their own people under the pretext of `fighting Islamic terrorism.’

Pashtun (aka Pathan) frontier tribes – collectively mislabeled `Taliban’ by western media - are up in arms again because they are being bombed by US Predator drones, and attacked by the Pakistani Army, which the US rents for $1.5 billion annually(the official figure; actually, it’s a lot more), to support its widening war in Afghanistan. Pashtun civilian casualties - `collateral damage’ in Pentagonspeak – are rising fast.

The primary cause of the growing rebellion in Pakistan’s Northwest Frontier Province (NWFP) is the US war in Afghanistan, which is rapidly spreading into Pakistan. Most Pakistanis see the Afghan Taliban and their own rebellious Pashtun as heroes fighting western domination, and scorn their own isolated leaders in Islamabad as working for the Yankee dollar.

Equally, the Pashtun tribes of NWFP were guaranteed total autonomy in 1947; Pakistan’s army was formally excluded from the Pashtun tribal region. Washington has pressured Islamabad into violating this basic provision of Pakistan’s constitution by sending troops and warplanes into the independent tribal region.

Even the British Imperial Raj’s most junior officer knew it was foolhardy to provoke warlike Pashtun. But Washington has done just this. Still, the Pashtun `Taliban’ have no influence outside their Northwest Frontier and are not about to take over the rest of Pakistan.

http://www.ericmargolis.com/political_commentaries/taliban-terror.a spx

guru...
whatever may be...
Now, we have to tolerate Congress for next five years...
Most probably they will try to project "bachhra" (Rahul gandhi) for next PM...I was feeling both BJP and CPI(M) lacked the absence of Pramod Mahajan and Mr. Anil Biswas and HK Surajeet....

Somehow K'taka and specificaly B'lore was not part of this mass stupidity....
The basic deficiency of Indian democratic process is, we are allowing muslas to be part of voting process...This is very ugly...next time Laloo Yadav should not insist to include cattles in the voter's list.....

I meant Monsanto seeds do not grow crops which can give seeds for next year. The genetically modified seeds cannot withstand local pests, so farmer has to get pesticides from Monsanto sister the pesticide. Baki army and its ammunition is like that pesticide which pollutes the water table and gives all kinds of cancers to the poor farmers. These genetically modified seeds also demand lot of fertilizers dezertifying the land over a decade time. IMF $s are like this deadly fertilizer.

Again, Baki gandus for Khuda-sake wake up and give up religious gandugiri:

http://www.sandeepweb.com/2008/10/09/remembering-madhava-vidyarany a/
Yet, we know that Harihara and his brother, Bukkaraya were reconverted to Hinduism from Islam, which they had embraced as the Delhi sultan’s prisoners. It was Vidyaranya’s teachings that propelled their hearts to reconvert, save, and uphold their ancestral religion. Vidyaranya was perhaps one of the first persons to fully understand Islam as a philosophy of imperialism and simultaneously, formulate a strategy to combat it. Islam’s conquest of the Deccan from Khilji to Muhamad Bin Tughlaq left the landscape in its wake burnt and bloody, a fact that didn’t escape the notice of the conquered. No resisting Hindu king could understand what motivated such barbarism. Inter (or intra) religious feud in India till Islam’s advent comprised furious verbal debate. Physical violence occurred but between individual debaters, and that on philosophical matters. India took a few hundred years to even try and decipher why Islam’s soldiers rent such wanton destruction on temples and other Hindu religious symbols and institutions. Vidyaranya understood this. As surviving examples, contrast the temple structures built by Vijaynagar kings and those that were built before them. Vijaynagar-style temples are typically built like fortresses with huge ramparts, tall towers, and easily defensible. Older temples are in this sense, “defenceless� because nobody could fathom the idea that a temple would be destroyed in wartime.

Vidyaranya was a voracious composer of mainly philsophical works like the monumental Panchadashi, a treatise on Advaita. Born Maadhava (not to be confused with Madhvacharya, the founder of the Dwaita school), he was ably accompanied in all his pursuits by his younger brother, Saayana. Saayana was himself a soldier, scholar, and philosopher. Apart from his active military participation, he wrote treatises and other philosophical works numbering more than a hundred. His major work remains the Vedartha Prakasha (Light on the meaning of the Vedas) while his Sudhanidhis (Treasures of Ambrosia) include manuals on ritual, ayurveda, music, prosody, and grammar. Maadhava at some stage in his life renounced material life and became a Sanyasi. He was subsequently appointed as the 12th Shankaracharya at Sringeri.

"Zalimo you took away our music, you took away our song, you took away our dance!!! Why and for what?"

They took away first your history, language, broke your community and made your land non-sacred so that you go on haj to distant desert land. These Zalims did not come yesterday they came 8th century first in Sind.

What Mohammed started was Monsanto. Just as poor farmer has to back to Monsanto for cotton and other seeds, enslaved people have to go back to the same Mohammad's alien book and desert land for spiritual seeds. Mullas fatwas and Arabic teaching is nothing but genetically engineered seeds not meant for local habitat.

Curses of innocents massacred in Mumbai locals in 2006, at CST in 2008, delhi, jaipur and varanasi is going to take toll from Bakiland.

Re: # 89
[...How could you take this away from of us, out of us and why? ... Zalimo you took away our music, you took away our song, you took away our dance!!! ...]

who took away your music?... taliban?...

Past couple a days I had been humming this semi classical Indian song from when I was a little kid and I figured let me check it out on you tube. There they had the complete version from Dileep Kumar’s movie Kohinoor. The song of course is
“madhuban mein radhika nache re�
And I played it over and over again. The singing is absolutely fantastic with Muhammad Rafi’ s perfect delivery. On screen Dileep provides a command performance and the dancer, My God! The dancer is just fabulous. The way she moves on every word, on the thap of the tabla, the sitar and the sarod it is just perfection, its art taken to a whole different level. While reading through the accompanying thread I found that Ustad Abdul Halim Jaffer Khan was especially brought in for this piece and other great musicians included Ustad Hafiz Ali Khan on sarod.

By the third time over, it just became overwhelming for me and I got extremely sad. Here I was enjoying fabulous art which is occasionally reached in very special circumstances where the human spirit could be uplifted to such a level and I was barely able to contain my sorrow. All I could say was how could you? How could you take this away from of us, out of us and why? Man! This is was what was good in us, this was what this dharti, this ancestory bequeathed upon us and you took it away. Zalimo you took away our music, you took away our song, you took away our dance!!! Why and for what? We never wanted your help in saving us in fact you are nobody and you cant save us. But in your hubris all you did was destroy us.

adamkhan #86 I think chowk staff banned poor Zeena too (her posts are marked the dreaded "=== interact filtered ==="). So it is not just Masadi who gets banned.

Equal Justice Before the Chowk Law Zindabad!!

Re: # 83 spy

the real question is: why do pakis suddenly wake up to this "fact" about "reachery, laziness, corrupt, greedy, and of late women-beating" pathans?...

Just a month ago - pashtoons are "brave, courageous, warriors" who are perfect companions with "martial race" pakis in their fight against evil hindooos... and now suddenly everything has changed... LOL

I dont understand this one thing, I know this Zeena is mentally unstable but why is Chowkstaff getting kicks out of her cyber diarrhea?

This is unfair, people like masadi have been banned for saying much less, but this one is allowed to say whatever she wants, which is basically hate speech.

Many unsuspecting pushtoons here, who dont know about her dementia, take her seriously and reply in kind. which only adds to the gali galoch that chowk is being reduced to these days.

can chowkstaff please put a leash on her?

thanks

Zeena: you should not generalize about anyone.
There are some pathans who are lazy, stupid, brutal etc. AND there are some pathans who are energetic, smart, civilized.
Then there are panjabis who are lazy, stupid, brutal. AND there are panjabis who are energetic, smart, civilized.

Then there are (fill in your favorite group of people) who are lazy, stupid, brutal. AND there are (fill in your favorite group of people) who are energetic, smart, civilized.

So - I recommend you consider a different classification scheme for people, as follows:

There are lazy, stupid, brutal individuals who are lazy, stupid, brutal. AND there are energetic, smart, civilized individuals who are energetic, smart, civilized.

Once you get used to it seeing people as individuals, you move to the next stage to an even more realistic classification scheme, as follows:

Some people are lazy, stupid, brutal some of the time, others are lazy, stupid, brutal most of the time. AND some people are energetic, smart, civilized some of the time, others are energetic, smart, civilized most of the time.

"So where Pukhtoon does stands today? After fighting for years against Russia and then now America, these Pukhtoons have been declared “Unwanted�".

Who the hell is against the Pukhtoons????.....you make it sound like entire Pakistani nation is against the Pukhtoons and deliberately victimizing them just for the hell of it. Fact of the matter is it is an unfortunate series of events taking place in FATA and if Pakistan army does not crush the Pakistan hating talibans who calls all Pakistanis Kafir except the people who think just like they do, they will take over the entire region of FATA and will blow up more schools and behead more people and beat up more young girls on the name of Sharia. Please dude, stop whinning like a girl and get out of this victim mentality. Inshallah, this will be all over soon and they can all go back home.