Demise of Pukhtoon Nation

Nobody should drown any further nor drowning others would be the right answer. You are right about Pakhtun blood spilled over the last 30 years of a conflict that started in 1979. Undeclared genocide of the Pakhtuns in which some of the Pakhtuns were inducted to fight has destroyed almost all NWFP, FATA and Afghanistan. Those who are educated should investigate, analyse and plan for a future instead of continuing this indefinite war. MQM was raised into power and authority by the ISI/military and they have brutally suppressed all voices of reason and dissent from Karachi. A fight is not always the right answer.

No doubts Pakhtoons have been used as canon fodder by the Punjabi army and civil bureaucracy of Pakistan. Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan was right in opposing the merger of NWFP with Pakistan and staying on with the Indian Union. The Pathan's simple nature was exploited by the wily and mean Punjabi throughout he history of Pakistan. The Punjabi army first enticed the Pathan to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan as Mujahideen. Then it created created the Taliban for its narrow ends. Now that the Talibs are at the doorsteps of Punjab, the Punjabi army has invaded NWFP, again the Pakhtoons are the sufferers, either they are being killed for being Taliban or they are being driven into refugee camps as helpless civilians.
There is only one way the Pakhtoons can lead a respectable life as a people that is by seceding from Pakistan and reuniting with Afghanistan.

I am sick of punjabi bashing...

Fighting is the right answer. It seems that everybody is fighting, yet pukhtoon should stop fighting. I don't care how many muhajirs die or MQM bigots if they are going to continue with their extortion and bigotry and unilateralism. It seems that Pakhtoons need nothing but a seperate country. Enough with all the crap that has been thrown upon us. It is time to stand up and fight.....fight till the end. Let Pakistan loose whatever Kashmir we got them from India......Pakistan army has never won a war just like they claim to have killed 700 militants in the Swat valley (my valley), yet the Taliban spokesman says they have only lost 12 of their commanders. Its exactly same as saying Pakistan won the Kargil war against India, or the 1948 war or 1965 war and 1971 war. The most untruthful, unworthy charlatons in Pakistan are none other than non-pukhtoons. Shame on you all for letting this shit happen. Shame on Zia for dumping us to the Islamic era; he did that so that Pukhtoons would stop our nationalististic movements for a homeland. After all Ramzan janay aur pathan janay!!!!

any pakistani here?

best solution is union of afghanistan and pakistan,that will reduce the influence of punjjus.in couple of decades pakhtoons will have neccesary clout to shape the politics of pakistan.i am sure they will provide a dignified direction to this country which is sadly lacking.

TUL DE VI PUKHTUNKHWA.

Bunch of cowards from Osama’s Al-qeada who are hiding in rat holes are responsible for genocide of Pakhtun nation. Osama the traitor of Islam and an agent of enemies of Islam destroying Pakhtuns and their land. On the other hand confuse and illiterate mullahs are selling their soul and preaching hatred and playing in the hands of Taliban’s and innocent Pakhtuns are paying the price. We all know who are Taliban’s, thanks to ISI who produced them during so called Afghan jihad against former Soviet Union, former hateful military dictator Zia imposed Afghan refugees on Pakhtuns land and military trained these refugees to fight against Soviets, these Taliban’s did not see music centers then or did not see girls going to schools because they were on pay roll of ISI and other foreign powers, when Osama and his company lost support and financial aid from west and isi after the withdraw of Soviets from Afghanistan, Osama company turned their guns against west and Pakhtuns.Pakistan's fundamentalism was mobilized and made sectarian by the government of Zia. It also became jihadi and terrorist with a lot of financial support from the United States and Saudi Arabia. jihadi leaders came into possession of considerable wealth, which they shared with the state apparatus in Pakistan. The army under General Zia combined three interest groups: the army, the clergy and the industrial elite.
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#6 what is this bakwas about "panjoos"? pakistani soldiers are laying down their lives are from all provinces of pakistan. it is the bastards they are fighting - the taliban - who also happen to be pakhtun. The cowardly ANP that betrayed its own voters in Swat is also pakhtun. Maybe you need to worry about your fellow pakhtuns instead of taking the racist way out of blaming other ethnicities.

and where is the ANP leader Afsandyar Wali Khan at a time when millions of his constituents whose votes he betrayed are being made homeless?? Nowhere to be seen. Travelling somewhere in europe some say. This man proved to be all talk ("maslihat chahihay, beghairati nahin").

and what kind of a comdedian is this Farhad Khan, who ends his whiny article with the stirring words: "“Hum tou doobain gay sanam… Pur… tum ko bhee lay doobaain gay!"

Yawn .. completely innocent .. like innocent little babies at the hands of the evil punjabis... not a thought in their heads .. not a dollar in their pockets.. Oh no.. only brave and eccentric tribesman driven by their honour and principles .. just poor misfortunate victims of circumstances who couldnt understand how evil the World actually is ... yadda yadda ..

What a load of total bull$h|t.. I think the words we're looking for are sedition and treason...

Re: # 3
I am sick of Mohajir Bashing, among others, time to stop identifying ourselves by regional & lingual ethnicity.
All this adds up to, Pakistan & Pakistani bashing which is nothing to take pride in.

{"Pukhtoon needs to wake up and fight against every one who is taking this great nation for a ride. Be that the Talibaan or MQM. We must stand up and fight! It’s not late to go back to our basic tribal ways as “Hum tou doobain gay sanam… Pur… tum ko bhee lay doobaain gay!"}

Farhad Sahib,
From my own experience, I have learned that generalizing about human beings is bound to result in disappointment and fallacy. Whether we lump people in racial, linguistic, provincial, religious, or even municipal terms, we are asking for trouble. Pakhtoons are a linguistic group and vary as much among themselves as Punjabis, Sindhis, and Mohajirs. Your comment about the unfortunate, illegal, and murderous killing of innocent Pakhtoons in Karachi is valid and the MQM has not only shame, but blood on its hands and on its face. As a Mohajir, with both Urdu-speaking and Pashto-speaking Pathans for relatives, I am saddened by yet another attempt by our enemies to exploit ethnic rivalries to damage Pakistan. Pathans are my brothers and sisters - just like Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluchis, and Kashmiris. A dead Pathan is a dead Pakistani and a weaker and sadder Pakistan. The current offensive in Swat and the prior butchery in Swat by the Talibans have torn me apart from the inside. All I can say about the too little too late action in Swat is that I hope it is swift, successful, and permanent. The Taliban are the enemies of Pakistan, Islam, and mankind - especially womankind.

But you cannot go on blaming others for the demise of the Pakhtoons. Taking on an anti-Pakistan stance from the beginning, flirting with Communism and the Soviet Union, being friends with India only to antagonize Pakistan, and then using Pakistan and Pakistanis as a base for the hit and run guerilla war against the Russians were all actions for which some Pakhtoons need to take responsibility. Wasn't Afghanistan one of the few nations to oppose Pakistan's membership in the UN?

Granted that the Russians, Americans, ISI, and the Soodis have all used Pakhtoons for their own selfish interests, but isn't there any responsibility on the part of the victims to recognize hypocrisy, stupidity, exploitation, and self-interest?

Farhad, please explain to me what is so Pakhtoon about slitting throats, beheading people, flogging women, persecuting minorities, and doing everything possible to defame Islam as an institution. Making videos and then publicizing macabre acts of deprivation and cruelty are something that our enemies would do - not the so-called "warriors of Islam."

If Pakhtoons really love their own people, if Pakhtoons are truly Pakistani, then you must:

Stop using force and violence to settle matters
Stop misusing the name of Islam to commit cruelty
Stop suppressing women - even (or especially) Pakhtoon women
Stop this FATA nonsense - either you are in Pakistan or not in Pakistan
Stop blaming others for the stupidity of Pakhtoon leaders - like Moola Fadloola, Moola Bait Loola, and other sadistic bastards
Stop using suicide bombers to terrorize Pathans, other Pakistanis, and the world
Stop hosting international terrorists and murderers like Osama Bin Laden, Zawahairy, and the assortment of Uzbek, Chehen, and Arab "Knights Templars"

Farhad, the best course is education, secular yet Islamic spirituality at the individual level, emancipation of women, and fairness for all. Inshallah, if we escape "Islamic" extremism, the normal course of human interaction will make us one people within a few more generations.

Salim Ahmed Chauhan

Khyber #8,
You may have valid points in all the blame against Russians, Americans, ISI, Zia, Soodis, and the rest. The fact remains that the most bitter enemies of the Tally Ban were the Northern Alliance comprised of Tajiks, Uzbeks, and even Hazaras. So, while one can say that the Tally Ban are the result of the American sponsored, Soodi-financed, ISI-planned Jihad against the Russians, the fact remains that almost half of the non-Pakhtun elements did not go along with the AL Kayda and did not mutilate into the Taliban.

WHAT HAS PUNJAB GOTTA DO WITH IT?

Everything.

Lets forget about Taliban for a second. Lets assume that they are nothing but crazy religious nuts who are mental cases ,hell bent on destroying the civilization. Lets assume that they have a bad religion that compels them to do inhuman things and what not. But then the question is, what is wrong with them secular Balochs. Why are they fighting our mercenary fouj? We must also ask the question why when a little over a month ago when three Baloch leaders were killed allegedly by Pakistani secret service agents or American mercenaries to avenge the kidnapping of an American UN agent, the Baloch people turned against Punjabi population? Since the time those murders took place, thousands of Punjabi families have been attacked, their businesses destroyed and family members killed by Baloch zealots. One must ask the question why Punjabis?

Similarly, when Benazir was killed the Sindhi people turned against Punjabi population. There were close to 60 trains that were set ablaze in Sindh during that anarchy, but before every train was set on fire the Punjabi travelers were sorted out carefully; their women were raped in front of their men who were later killed. There were tens of cases when buses were stopped with in Sindh, and Punjabis were sorted out and meted out the same atrocity. Mind you these Punjabis living in sindh are not a new phenomenon. Majority of them have lived there for close to hundred years now. Ironically, it was GM Syed who went to what is East Punjab now and coerced Muslim peasants to come to sindh and turn jungles and deserts into agriculture lands.

In urban sindh, during the 8 year civil war of 80s and 90s Punjabis were the most blatantly targeted group by MQM terrorists. As compared to Pathans, Punjabis are/were geographically dispersed in Karachi. Their business were set ablaze and after they fled their homes their properties were practically occupied by MQM terrorist who forced Punjabis to sell them literally for pennies. The question is why Punjabis?

Another sad and most under reported event is the atrocities committed by Bengalis on the Punjabis in East Pakistan. I do not want to get into the debate of who started it and what fouj did to Bengalis, I am talking about ordinary Punjabi civilians who were living in EP for business and employment. The viciousness of atrocities committed to Punjabis in particular and any light skinned people in general would put Neanderthals to shame. Thousands were perished, raped, and tortured including my family members. The question is again, why Punjabis?

If one looks at these shameful chapters in our history one would find that the common denominator in all these cases is our ruthless, vicious, and criminal fouj. What was the problem in Baluchistan? Nothing but Balouch wanted justice for a rape victim who was raped by army personnel and fouj took it upon itself to protect the criminals. Today everything that is wrong in Pakistan is because of this lawless entity that is called fouj.

As callous it may sound but it is a fact that Punjabis deserved all those atrocities that are done to them. It was Punjab’s burden to put a leash to these vicious dogs who commit atrocities to minorities in our name. Have we ever tried to ask a fouji relative of ours , as to the reason for his crimes against humanity and this nation – from gang raping our constitution to indiscriminate killing of Pakistani citizens for money and for power? Has a Punjabi ever dare ask these madarchods how come close to 2 million Pakistanis have been made refugee in their own country – and that is just for fukking 2 billion dollars? Have we ever asked our neighbor fouji as to why close to 16000 Pakistanis have disappeared from the face of earth, overwhelming majority of whom are Balochis?

Look, as Punjabis and as human beings it is our responsibility to stop this malignant tumor called fouj from spreading its malignancy any further. As Punjabis the burden of leadership is upon us to protect our neighbors and our fellow citizens from the criminality of these mercenaries. Even a moron knows that the situation in FATA and Swat has become irreversible. The atrocities committed by harami fouj are akin to those committed by Serbs against Bosnians and Croats. These are war crimes, plain and simple which this harami fouj is committing in our name for 2 billion dollars. There are close to 500 elected members in different assemblies today who belong to Punjab. Why can’t a single Punjabi rep. speak out against these atrocities?
It is a time for a massive social movement in Punjab against this fouj which has brought to us disaster after disaster and nothing else. We must totally boycott all fouji families; their children must be ridiculed; and we must cut ties with our relatives who have any relationship with this criminal enterprise. Shopkeepers must stop selling to them; mosques must refuse their entry; and teachers must refuse to teach their children. The time to act is now. It is now or never. Pakistan is not likely to survive this time.