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India Votes for Stability

Dost Mittar May 16, 2009

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#341 Posted by dude40000 on May 23, 2009 12:51:22 pm
Re: # 338

I just asked a question and you asked me a rhetorical question in return. Do you have the answer to it or not?
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#340 Posted by Hasho on May 23, 2009 12:48:15 pm
"Complete conquor of Iran and others, and inability to repeat the same in India is for all of us to see even now."

Do you mean to say since what Arabs did in Fars, should have been repeated by the persian/Pathans/ and other central Asians in India to make the point that Islamic warriors were equally barbaric, despite the differences in National origin?

Because the persian/Pathans/ and other central Asians were less barbaric, somehow that becomes an Indian victory, is that right?
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#339 Posted by anil on May 23, 2009 12:42:40 pm
Riaz:

You seem to be searching for your happiness and satisfaction on the railroad tracks in Mumbai, when you should be looking for in the pillars of Karachi Stock Exchange, or corridors of Islamabad. And how to make it all happen, you have experience under your belt to make it happen. I know you could call it pedantic, but it will remain the truth. Seemingly, Arjun's of the world get you very easily.
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#338 Posted by Hasho on May 23, 2009 12:40:58 pm
#335 Posted by dude40000 on May 23, 2009 12:07:28 pm
Re: # 334
" What is the percentage of minority population in Pakistan now and what was it in 1948?"

Another one of those Bharatrakshisk.net.

In fact it has been proven beyond any doubt that there is no significant change in Minority population in the current Pakistan after 1948 on this site many times over.

Do you have some stats to backup your claim that millions in minority, specifically hindu, just disappeared in the dust after 1948?
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#337 Posted by anil on May 23, 2009 12:16:38 pm
Re: # 328

Riaz:

No one other than Bill Clinton spoke publicly how Obama got support from democratic machinery. Besides my counter point was to trashing you give to "however" defective Indian democracy, as if others are so pure and doodh ki dhooli. Politics is messy everywhere, and it is messier in India.

You rely on meaningless macro ecnomic and other indictors, while in developing economies and societies micro-level signs are more important. These micro show who and how each brick is getting laid, macro makes sense when the building is ready.
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#336 Posted by anil on May 23, 2009 12:11:54 pm
Riaz:

Question of tolerance or intolerance of Islamic warrior is a discussion you should have with Hamidm and not me. Complete conquor of Iran and others, and inability to repeat the same in India is for all of us to see even now.

My point is only about India, even in that Today's India. I am quite bullish about it, I hope you can be equally bullish about your country Today's Pakistan, then you would not waste time in reacting to right wing hindus here.
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#335 Posted by dude40000 on May 23, 2009 12:07:28 pm
Re: # 334

Hilarious!

Riaz - What is the percentage of minority population in Pakistan now and what was it in 1948?
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#334 Posted by RiazHaq on May 23, 2009 12:01:58 pm
Re: # 325

History of the world tells us that Muslims victors/rulers have always behaved differently than others. British historian Willian Dalymple explains how he started writing "Xanadu" to document the alleged Muslim atrocities against non-Muslims but when he did the research he ended up writing about how tolerant Muslims were to the vanquished.

The greatest example of Muslim tolerance can be found in how Muslims well treated Christians and allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem after taking the city twice in the history...first under Omar and then under Saladdin.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
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#333 Posted by HPsauce on May 23, 2009 11:59:06 am
We dislike begging. But we dislike it only at the national level. At the international level we love begging like mad. At the international level we beg like a baby begging for a nipple. What we have so far got through our international begging is a sacred secret. What our street beggars must be thinking about our bank-beggars and our international begging, one just shudders to imagine.
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-onl ine/Opinions/Columns/13-Jun-2008/Begging-or-selfkilling
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#332 Posted by dude40000 on May 23, 2009 11:58:11 am
Re: # 326

Riaz you are convinently ignoring the facts. 80% of Indians voted for secular parties. Even in Delhi - 66% of population voted for secular parties.

Data does not lie...

http://www.eciresults.nic.in/frmPercentVotesPartyWiseChart.aspx
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#331 Posted by HPsauce on May 23, 2009 11:57:05 am
sala 329 ka story Mingora ka battles per tha..chowk saftwhare ne kha liya

link yahaan heyy

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Po litics/24-May-2009/Fierce-street-battles-as-troops-enter-Mingora

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#330 Posted by HPsauce on May 23, 2009 11:56:10 am
Story of Child begging in Pakistan

Day by Day increasing Child labour as well as child begging in Pakistan. This is a big question for all over world as well as Pakistan government. No any steps are taken by Govt for Child Education. Pakistani Teachers also begging for increasing Salaries

http://videos.desishock.net/3629/Story-of-Child-begging-in-Pakistan
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#329 Posted by HPsauce on May 23, 2009 11:54:09 am
sala phikar naut Riaz haq , Pakistan banega Wahhabi Talibanistan

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#328 Posted by RiazHaq on May 23, 2009 11:52:58 am
Re: # 324

I think you are denying reality here. Everyone knows the machine politics favored Clinton. Only after the primary votes came in that the calculus changed and Democrats lined up.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
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#327 Posted by HPsauce on May 23, 2009 11:51:11 am
sala phikar not Riaz Haq_merra hain Esq sahib.
Our Pakistan Studies text book will soon sala become the only history we will all study.

tu ne sahee, identify kiya yeah devious hunddod ko...

challo, ek aadh peg ho jaiye
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#326 Posted by RiazHaq on May 23, 2009 11:50:52 am
Re: # 319

If you look at the detailed breakdown of votes for Obama, you'll find that the majority of whites voted for McCain. But Obama won just enough white vote along with overwhelming majority of non-white vote to get elected.

Now I don't know for sure the detailed breakdown of Congress votes, but my guess is that just enough of the middle class vote and overwhelming majority of the poor led to Congress victory. When you talk about cities, don;t forget the urban poor who clean the houses of the middle class folks and live in shanties close to the high-rises in the same proximity.

Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
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