Obama’s Promise

An essay on TwoCircles.net by Yoginder Sikand describes the deteriorating human rights situation of Indian Muslims. America's 'global war on terror' has provided a convenient cover to the Hindutva lobby and to fiercely anti-Muslim elements within the Indian state machinery to launch a concerted campaign of terror against Muslims. Large numbers of Muslims in various parts of India continue to languish in jails on trumped-up terror charges, suffering brutal torture as well as routine insults to their religion by police officials. Meanwhile, Hindu terrorists, often in league with the police and the state machinery, are allowed to run riot, unleashing violence and bloodshed on a frightening scale, while the state, the police and the courts take no firm action against them. Bomb blasts that are now occurring with frightening frequency, whose perpetrators remain unknown, are automatically blamed on Muslims, while some of these might possibly be engineered by Hindutva outfits or by elements within the state apparatus, or even by foreign intelligence agencies like the CIA or the Israeli Mossad who have a vested interest in demonizing Muslims and thereby driving India closer into the deadly American-Israeli embrace. That, in brief, was what numerous social activists as well as dozens of Muslim victims of police and state terror testified to at a public hearing on brutalities against Muslims in the name of countering 'terrorism' recently organized in Hyderabad by a group of noted human rights' activists. Going by their depositions and the verdict of the jury of eminent social activists, journalists and retired judges, it appears that powerful elements within the state apparatus are deeply implicated, along with Hindu terrorist groups, in a witch-hunt of India's Muslim citizens.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 20
"Because it gave India the gift of "war on terror" that Indians thoroughly abused to kill their own Muslim citizens"

A sure sign that the poster is rapidly moving to a state of senility.

Re: # 18
Mr. Foul Mouth, Here are the facts about "India's deep love" for Bush:

"The people of India deeply love you", said Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to President Bush on a visit to the White House late last year.

The Prime Minister continued with the theme of affection and gratitude by adding, “In the last four and half years that I have been Prime Minister, I have been the recipient of your generosity, your affection, your friendship. It means a lot to me and to the people of India.�

Later, India's Foreign Secretary Shiv Shankar Menon explained: “I think, if you look at the public opinion polls, the ratings for President Bush are higher in India than in any other country. That is the factual basis.�

Let me explain: Bush was far more popular in India than anywhere else, including his own country. Why? Because it gave India the gift of "war on terror" that Indians thoroughly abused to kill their own Muslim citizens.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 18
In fact it is the Pakistanis that would have been happy when Bush attacked Iraq, because Saddam was a friend of India and he always supported India's position on Kashmir.

Re: #6 "As to the reaction across the border in India, it is well known many Indians loved Bush and cheered him on in his failed policies of war against the Muslim world."

This is talking through one's ass at its best. Bush's antics in Iraq is seen for what it is- a hypocritical attempt in the name of "freedom" to gain control of oilfields and expand American commercial interests in that region. I am not a Muslim but find all this "addressing the Muslim world" stuff highly patronising. But I guess its worth it if some jihadis buy into it and stop blowing themselves and us up. So I am with Obama on this.

Re: # 5

Bhatti Sahib

I second that, Obama Muslim world speech overload.

Here is an excerpt from NY Times report talking about public anger against the Taliban:

A year ago, the Pakistani public was deeply divided over what to do about its spreading insurgency. Some saw the Taliban militants as fellow Muslims and native sons who simply wanted Islamic law, and many opposed direct military action against them.

But history moves quickly in Pakistan, and after months of televised Taliban cruelties, broken promises and suicide attacks, there is a spreading sense — apparent in the news media, among politicians and the public — that many Pakistanis are finally turning against the Taliban.

The shift is still tentative and difficult to quantify. But it seems especially profound among the millions of Pakistanis directly threatened by the Taliban advance from the tribal areas into more settled parts of Pakistan, like the Swat Valley. Their anger at the Taliban now outweighs even their frustration with the military campaign that has crushed their houses and killed their relatives.

“It’s the Taliban that’s responsible for our misery,� said Fakir Muhammed, a refugee from Swat, who, like many who had experienced Taliban rule firsthand, welcomed the military campaign to push the insurgents out.

The growing support for the fight against the Taliban could be an important turning point for Pakistan, whose divisions about its Islamic militancy seemed at times to imperil the state itself.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/05/world/asia/05refugees.html?scp=4&sq=Taliba n&st=cse
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

#6

Now you are trying to figure out how Indians are thinking?

Here's the Editorial from Times of India

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{{That seem to be the only option. De-nuke, fence pakistan and throw in some strilising kind fo food to them }}

You will continue to remain a moron

Re: # 12

very true. The educated paki on chowk always attributed jihadis and madrassas of pakistan that produced the jihadis to the afghan war and afghan refugees.

Now teh swat refugees and lack of money given to support them will be the cause of more jihadis.

The good part is that the paki economy will continue to deline, more dependance will be on aid and food aid...and hopefully some day some additive could be added to teh aid food to reduce the islamic re-production rate.

That seem to be the only option. De-nuke, fence pakistan and throw in some strilising kind fo food to them

In the foreseeable future Pakistan will continue to hunt with the hound and run with the hare. While the Pakistan army makes a big show of its 'fight' against its own creation, the Taliban, to get more alms ( and of course arms) from the Western donors, the IDP camps will become nurseries tended by ISI to produce more terrorists who will be trained to bite the hand that feeds and of course wage Pakistan's 1000 years war with India.

Re: # 9

Any how, you can always hope by denying the truth about TNt version of islam. At some stage, you have look at and explain why the most virulent starain of islam came out of the paki madrassas.

How come the large part of thetaliban are from lahore. Why do teh so called no jihadi paki political parties support taliban. Whay was the surrender of swat to pakistan accepted by all the so called liberal paki parties. what the attack on swat taliban is linked to yankee money and that too hardly any taliban fighters are killed, they are only moved to karachi and wazirostan etc.

The pakis how come they did know even how to jam FM transmissions. The jinnahic version of islam, also known globally as teh TNt strain is teh most viruleny form and will have to be contained through fencing of pakistan. Now hardly any visas are given to pakis...there need to be more restrictions on paki movements.

Re: # 7

With cynics and skeptics like you, it is going to be hard for any one to make a clean break with the past. You shall remain stuck in the cesspool of history, unless you open your eyes and embrace change. Let's hope Obama can still succeed, in spite of fanatic Muslims, bigoted Hindus and right-wing Jews with the ridiculous Biblical claim on Palestine.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Re: # 8

I can see how miserable you are now.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

Finally obama has told the truth. The slaughter of muslims will stop only when the so called majority muslims stand up and oppose the terrorists. Well that is not going to happen, what the west call as terror is jihad for true muslims. Then he also talked about freedom of choice for religions...well that means conversion from islam to other religions in pakistan...that is not going to happen. Obama has told categorically...if tehse conditions are not met, teh slaughter will continue.


This is all good news for pakistan. The so called attack on the taliban has been made into a refugee problem...more money....they want to be paid for killing taliban...sorry they are only being moved to karachi....the paki troops will move out of swat as soon as teh yanks make the payments...and the cycle continues.

All are happy...the jihadis are happy..they got to intriduce jazia on teh sikhs of swat...the paki army is happy..they have got the dollars.

Isalam is a way of making a living ... no doubt

Sometimes it just boggles my mind to see the sychophancy of the chamcha group, who take money to kill their fellow citizens. Well the Negro Bush sure has shown promise by making 3 million people refugeee and tens of thousands killed in his first six months. He has kept the fine tradition of all his predecessor psychopath presidents.

The simplest way to interprett an american presidents bologne speeches is to turn affirmatives into negetives and vice versa. For eaxmple, when a US president says "lets have a new beginning, we want to establish good realtionship with Muslim". The no nonsense translation would be "there is nothing new, we will keep the status quo and you fukks (refering to corrupt ruling elite of Muslim lands) you will keep doing what we tell you to do and you are gonna like it".

The phrase "the solution for middle easdt is two state solution"

Translation: "go fukk yourselves; the way it is is how its gonna be".

The phrase "Islam, Judaism and Chritianity all have teachings of peace"

Translation: "and we are fukking capitalists, money is our god, and we kick everybodys butt who doesn't give us his money and does not like it"

The phrase " Guantanamo bay will be closed down in a year"

Translation "Yeah we are outsourcing our torture cells to godfrosaken countries like pakistan, romania, germany, and poland. It will take a year to complete the outsourcing".

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