Dost Mittar June 12, 2009
#62 Posted by tahmed32 on June 15, 2009 4:56:43 am
#61 obama never stopped india from building themselves economically. all he did was show respect and appreciation for islam and a desire to rebuild US relations with the muslim countries.
so whats the problem with you indians? why are you all hopping around like burnt pakoras?
so whats the problem with you indians? why are you all hopping around like burnt pakoras?
#61 Posted by dost_mittar on June 15, 2009 4:52:59 am
tahmed32:
Obama is not a disappointment for the US and that is his job. It is not for Obama to look after the Indian interests but for Indians to do it themselves. And the Indian interests lie in building themselves up economically with the same singlemindedness that the Chinese did.
Obama is not a disappointment for the US and that is his job. It is not for Obama to look after the Indian interests but for Indians to do it themselves. And the Indian interests lie in building themselves up economically with the same singlemindedness that the Chinese did.
#60 Posted by tahmed32 on June 15, 2009 4:51:13 am
dost mittar: but seriously - do you people seriously expect the rest of the world to bear the same deep-rooted spite towards Islam as you people do?
#59 Posted by tahmed32 on June 15, 2009 4:48:11 am
"The Barack Obama Administration has been a disappointment."
alas! if only the lord gave indians the gift,
to see themselves
as others see them...they would not be so disappointed..
alas! if only the lord gave indians the gift,
to see themselves
as others see them...they would not be so disappointed..
#58 Posted by dost_mittar on June 15, 2009 4:37:13 am
Security analyst B. Raman, seems to agree with this article;[http://www.rediff.com/news/column/2009/jun/15/raman-foreign-policy-prio rities-for-the-new-government.htm];
Excerpts:
"The Barack Obama [ Images ] Administration has been a disappointment. As pointed out by Robert Blackwill, the former US Ambassador [ Images ] to India, it has been looking at India through Pakistani eyes. At the same time, I would add as my personal view that it has been consciously avoiding looking at Pakistan through Indian eyes. It has been interested only in providing more and more incentives to Pakistan with no disincentives. Its only interest in India is in having political influence to be able to prevent us from retaliating against Pakistan for its acts of terrorism in Indian territory. This policy will act as a speed-breaker in taking any new initiatives for further strengthening Indo-US relations. Despite this, we should be open to all new ideas coming from the US provided those ideas are not detrimental to our national interests."
Excerpts:
"The Barack Obama [ Images ] Administration has been a disappointment. As pointed out by Robert Blackwill, the former US Ambassador [ Images ] to India, it has been looking at India through Pakistani eyes. At the same time, I would add as my personal view that it has been consciously avoiding looking at Pakistan through Indian eyes. It has been interested only in providing more and more incentives to Pakistan with no disincentives. Its only interest in India is in having political influence to be able to prevent us from retaliating against Pakistan for its acts of terrorism in Indian territory. This policy will act as a speed-breaker in taking any new initiatives for further strengthening Indo-US relations. Despite this, we should be open to all new ideas coming from the US provided those ideas are not detrimental to our national interests."
#57 Posted by dost_mittar on June 15, 2009 4:08:25 am
pmishra2:
Egypt does not have a sharia law and I don't think that there is any restriction on building a temple there.
I can confirm on the basis of personal experience that Egyptians are quite friendly towards Indians. There is a lot common between them and us and Cairo feels a lot like Bombay. They also swindle tourists like we do.
Egypt does not have a sharia law and I don't think that there is any restriction on building a temple there.
I can confirm on the basis of personal experience that Egyptians are quite friendly towards Indians. There is a lot common between them and us and Cairo feels a lot like Bombay. They also swindle tourists like we do.
#56 Posted by dost_mittar on June 15, 2009 3:40:19 am
ahmedmadani#47:
Your unique insights are always welcome. While Pakistanis may have to wait for some time to get Kashmir, here is a gift for you from a Kashmiri Pandit. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=shiv+kumar+santoo r
Your unique insights are always welcome. While Pakistanis may have to wait for some time to get Kashmir, here is a gift for you from a Kashmiri Pandit. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=shiv+kumar+santoo r
#55 Posted by dost_mittar on June 15, 2009 3:36:36 am
anil#45:
The naxal issue is very important, more important in the long run than the Kashmir issue. So far, they are active in mainly tribal villages but they do have bigger plans. The Indians have to adopt a dual policy, address the social issues which are the root cause of the support for rebels and at the same time provide security to the common people in the villages; as of now, even the police does not feel safe at night in these areas.
The naxal issue is very important, more important in the long run than the Kashmir issue. So far, they are active in mainly tribal villages but they do have bigger plans. The Indians have to adopt a dual policy, address the social issues which are the root cause of the support for rebels and at the same time provide security to the common people in the villages; as of now, even the police does not feel safe at night in these areas.
#54 Posted by dost_mittar on June 15, 2009 3:33:07 am
Riaz#44:
The jewish lobby and Indians were on the same side when the Iran issue went to the UN. But will they support Indians if they change their stance on Iran which,I think, they will now that the nuclear deal is done?
The jewish lobby and Indians were on the same side when the Iran issue went to the UN. But will they support Indians if they change their stance on Iran which,I think, they will now that the nuclear deal is done?
#53 Posted by pmishra2 on June 15, 2009 3:29:55 am
Sad to see the disease of intolerance afflict even cultures like Egypt - just shows how the hatefilled influence of islamo-supremacy is present in every islamic nation.
Until the OIC debates it openly, we should declare them a group of racist and hatemongering states.
[quote]
“There is no religious conflict because our religious practices are not manifested in the public sphere,� Pillai says. “In Egypt, there is no Hindu temple, and [even if] we had one, I do not believe there would be trouble.�
[quote]
from -
http://www.egypttoday.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=8517
Until the OIC debates it openly, we should declare them a group of racist and hatemongering states.
[quote]
“There is no religious conflict because our religious practices are not manifested in the public sphere,� Pillai says. “In Egypt, there is no Hindu temple, and [even if] we had one, I do not believe there would be trouble.�
[quote]
from -
http://www.egypttoday.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=8517
#52 Posted by laddu on June 15, 2009 3:00:11 am
Re: # 48
"This allows India to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with and remittances from the Arab world. "
Actually, Arab land is full of financial and other mafias - just a typical Islami habit.
It is time we stopped all these so called "benefits of trade" which means under invoicing, over invoicing and money laundering.
India would do better without any such corrupt services being offered by the worthless Arabian sheikhs!!
"This allows India to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with and remittances from the Arab world. "
Actually, Arab land is full of financial and other mafias - just a typical Islami habit.
It is time we stopped all these so called "benefits of trade" which means under invoicing, over invoicing and money laundering.
India would do better without any such corrupt services being offered by the worthless Arabian sheikhs!!
#51 Posted by laddu on June 14, 2009 10:14:29 pm
the mullah and Jernail suckers would be set right once both the mullahs and the jernails are punished for their crimes!!
#50 Posted by majumdar on June 14, 2009 9:04:16 pm
Riaz babu,
This allows India to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with and remittances from the Arab world.
Arabs employ Indian menial labour not becuase they love Indians but becuase they need cheap labour and Indians provide just that. Similarly they trade with Indians becuase Indians need the oil which Arabs can provide and in turn can provide some consumer goods and foodstuff which the Arabs need.
And as Harishbhai points out India may not have done Palis a great deal of good but they didnt also slaughter them in large numbers as your great mard-e- momin Zia did.
Regards
This allows India to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with and remittances from the Arab world.
Arabs employ Indian menial labour not becuase they love Indians but becuase they need cheap labour and Indians provide just that. Similarly they trade with Indians becuase Indians need the oil which Arabs can provide and in turn can provide some consumer goods and foodstuff which the Arabs need.
And as Harishbhai points out India may not have done Palis a great deal of good but they didnt also slaughter them in large numbers as your great mard-e- momin Zia did.
Regards
#49 Posted by harish_hyd on June 14, 2009 8:09:39 pm
#48 by RiazHaq
India manages its relationship with Arab regimes well by paying regular lip service to the Palestinian cause, and by occasionally criticizing Israel for its excesses. This allows India to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with and remittances from the Arab world.
India at least pays lip service. What do you do? Your dictator kills Palestinians using tanks to make an Arab regime happy. Any wonder the Palis hate Pakis with a vengeance?
At the same time, it is India's wink-wink, nod-node deal with the Israelis that helps India get sophisticated US defense technology through Israel, get military training from IDF, and keeps the Israel lobby in Washington happy.
Your favorite dictator Mushy also tried to do the same by actually trying to establish diplomatic relations with Israel, but the Mullahs street power stymied that. Why grudge India for successfully doing what your favorite dictator failed to do?
India manages its relationship with Arab regimes well by paying regular lip service to the Palestinian cause, and by occasionally criticizing Israel for its excesses. This allows India to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with and remittances from the Arab world.
India at least pays lip service. What do you do? Your dictator kills Palestinians using tanks to make an Arab regime happy. Any wonder the Palis hate Pakis with a vengeance?
At the same time, it is India's wink-wink, nod-node deal with the Israelis that helps India get sophisticated US defense technology through Israel, get military training from IDF, and keeps the Israel lobby in Washington happy.
Your favorite dictator Mushy also tried to do the same by actually trying to establish diplomatic relations with Israel, but the Mullahs street power stymied that. Why grudge India for successfully doing what your favorite dictator failed to do?
#48 Posted by RiazHaq on June 14, 2009 7:30:24 pm
Re: # 47
India manages its relationship with Arab regimes well by paying regular lip service to the Palestinian cause, and by occasionally criticizing Israel for its excesses. This allows India to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with and remittances from the Arab world.
At the same time, it is India's wink-wink, nod-node deal with the Israelis that helps India get sophisticated US defense technology through Israel, get military training from IDF, and keeps the Israel lobby in Washington happy.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
India manages its relationship with Arab regimes well by paying regular lip service to the Palestinian cause, and by occasionally criticizing Israel for its excesses. This allows India to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with and remittances from the Arab world.
At the same time, it is India's wink-wink, nod-node deal with the Israelis that helps India get sophisticated US defense technology through Israel, get military training from IDF, and keeps the Israel lobby in Washington happy.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#47 Posted by ahmedmadani on June 14, 2009 5:44:02 pm
Re: # 44 Indian lobby and israli loby are working hand in hand. Some how no body thinks how much their defence relationship is growing and Arabs are not making even creaky noise. This silence is due to money ( they want to sell oil to india and sell palestanians.) There is complete failure of foreign ministry of making big issue in arab lands. If foreign ministry raises stakes arab will be forced to act, out of shame. Kashmir question is not raised in Arab lands. Arabs are key to Kashmir returning to Muslim lands.Pakistan can give call of bycot of trade no black liquid gold Indina will come running down to start compromise but keep hot solution option open, once TTP problem is solved K can be next goal. Without time bound goals army will not take action. IF oil is denied by muslim world india will come to knees. Unless Ummah comes with real concrete measures they can start loosing support from pakistan. We are the strongest biggest and with maximum military power an atomic and hydrogen power, we should tell Ummah stop charade and come out in support for Kashmir or we will not attend meeting ummah will come to senses. Ummah without pakistan is like america taking ut army from war in AFpak region. If you do not use power you loose it a arab professor philosopher in big USA univ wroe is true. We need to remind Ummah the true path which is to believe is to act. Good day. Too much reading what mr. Obma is not fruitful. He is aginst India and has tilt towards for pakistan but as he does not do much it does not matter. We need to look at his appoints how many indians he has appointed. Too much thinking is silly like one sindhi here locaal was over excited due to pres. Zardari for nothing. It does not matter in real sense as told him Karachi it is A.Hussain matters not far away sitting president. I am afraid people are looking for little gesture with microscope and feeling that finally Obama is going give Kashmir but like usa black man feels something for nothing and over rates all things.
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