How Pakistan Killed My Father

Re: # 15
TehsinA
Vigilantism is personal vendetta. Rules of ethics for professionals, insurance and penalty for mal-practice, legal redress for victims and oversight by professional councils could institute some far-reaching changes.

Have you tried a civil claim in a court?

#13 Posted by saeedshiekh

This is exactly where and how reformation takes place. You do not have to declare personal vendetta against Doctor Sahib and challenge him to a duel. His crime against you was random and the arrow that should come his way should also come out from the shadows. You could accumulate a number of his crimes and get the message across to him that he should get ready to suffer the consequences of his crimes. Next you decide whether it should be the house or his clinic that should be targeted without declaring it that you are the one doing it.

Doctor Sahib will understand very quickly that the enemies that he has created are numerous and he would never know actually where the retaliation came from. Moreover he would realize that whereas his enemies can remain hidden, he just cannot move away into anonymity. He still has to run his clinic and live in a home that people could get at and that he is a sitting duck. Very soon it would become abundantly clear to him that the only way he can survive in the future is to make equitable recompense with those he has harmed and in the future remain entirely ethical.

I was having this discussion with someone too, and personally, I think it's fair to just kill the culprit. I was almost suckered into such a situation with my child. Whats worse is that the doctor was carrying out the malpractice deliberately (to make money) and working in a 'web' of other such practitioners. I'd be glad to assist you with your book, and can provide other evidence, as I have now met other people who went through the same thing but were not fortunate enough to realise in time what was going on.

Re: # 8 Excellent comment by TehsinA. If we burn his house down, he might do it to me? that was scared us? what do you recommend ?

Pakistn that killed my father refers to the imbedded moral and social decay of this nation. The country itself remains pure and undisturbed.

BHS,

It's not physically possibly to do that many operations in 6 hours; do you mean 6 in 6 hours? She has to pay the Army for the use of the facilities, as well as paying the Army personnel she uses. Its still a very good deal for her, of course; much cheaper than setting up her own clinic. The Army also makes some money. IIRC, she can only see private patients after regular MH hours are over, but you are right, there is no real check on these practices in Pakistan--is there a check on anything in Pakistan--but there would be a greater sticking to the rules in the Army than anywhere else (at least until you get to really high rank!).

{"These doctors had no remorse. ... That doctor has now been promoted. Though he had apologized once he realized that we were influential people but the sad part is that there is no verdict for malpractice. ..."}

Saeed Shiekh Sahib,
My deepest condolence on your tragic loss. I am really sorry to hear about your dad's death as a result of gross incompetence on the part of some who are just waiting for a green card to abscond to the US to mint money. May you overcome your tragedy and learn to forgive these quacks for their selfishness and their preoccupation with getting rich.

Saeedsahib I emphathise with you losss it is saddest thing when when person going for treatmets comes dead at end. Unfortunately this is rotinue happenings. I had experience similar. Please do not say Pakistan killed my father. Pakistan did not do that it is fine land and with great things given by almighty all. Pakistan is not poor country but pakistani , we people are miserable people. Other people could have made much better of pakistan. Pakistani people killed your father we are wretched people , full of boast. We have pride of what ancestors did like those great warriers of Mughal and ottman empires but we should not be proud of miserable way but feel shameful as instead of carry great muslim supremacy we have become beggars who claim of old gone golden era.
Now in karachi people are killed for few rupees , there are thousands of people/ young roaming picking up garbage , no body ever pats them on back and say how are you.
I am thankful for bringing the real situation , hope is that self criticism only gives hope for change for better.
I feel saddened for senseless loss.
I am sorry and depart , wish you good luck and peace....AM
am2148@yahoo.com

Saeed Shaikh Sahib:

Lack of justice is the prime cause for all these ills. In this particular situation and in most others it takes the form of lack of accountability. The examples you gave regarding America, yes there is huge indoctrination regarding ethical standards for all professionals to uphold but they are always coupled with severe penalties for malpractice and negligence. The two together make a formidable combination to make the system work.

In our part of the world both ethics as well as penalties get weakened because we allow our myths to interfere in the affairs of men. A powerful argument is made in the form of – ‘Zindagi aur maut khuda kay haath mein hay koi is ko budal nahin sakta’ (life and death are in the hands of God and no body can change that). Such fatalism uttered and accepted from the pulpit to all the seats of authority prevent any reform to occur.

The only way things will ever change is if we say yes we cant change the will of God, but anybody causing harm to any individual will be held fully accountable. For starters vigilante action could go a long way in reforming the system. The Doctor Sahib who perpetrated the crime against your father should be wary of the fact that you hold him personally responsible for your loss and will burn his house down, this could go a long way in altering his behavior and an example to others in similar situations. Enough amount of vigilante action would force reformation because the perpetrators themselves would have an interest in seeing such reforms inacted.

In Desiland, there is no humanity left. Poor are subjected to much worse. These are the reasons for 2000 year old slavery. To make a few pennies more, these haramis kill without remorse.

life is cheap in this part of world....
that is bitter truth....

I want to thank you all for taking the time to comment. I still love Pakistan in its entity. I am concerned about the people who run it. Their fallacious promises cost my fathers life. And the life of many many other great faces. When will this all end? We need to save pakistan from the hounds. i hope and pray that i give a beautiful pakistan to my generation.

sorry for your loss.

don't blame the country, it's the system.

they misdiagnosed my mother as well, wanted to give her a heart bypass and I got a 2nd opinion. so I brought her to uae and the doctors here said that it's not required.

she is healthy now and fine by the grace of God.

but when doctors get thier degrees to earn money and not for the walfare of the people, how can you expect any good from it? they do not work at hospitals but will ask you to visit them at thier clinic in the evening and ofcourse a fee of Rs. 2000 per patient is alot!!!

the MH hospital in rawalpindi, there is a major in rank, she is a gynecologist, when my neice was born she operated. in 6 hours that woman undertook 60 operations, all cesareans at the cost of Rs. 30,000/ head which does not include the medicines, so that is like 1.8 million in one day !!! that's crazy !!! a major doctor earning Rs. 14.4 million in one month !!!

& this was all "private", all money has to be paid to HER, what the hell? ... she uses hospital staff and operation theatre 2 times a week for her personal use. who is auditing her? is there such thing as audit? I wonder how much she is paying the MS to keep his mouth shut.

the pakistan institute of medical sciences in islamabad which is sponsored by canada, has THE ONLY specialised ward and treatment for newborn children. I don't remember I think I saw 10 incubators. and they were full all the time whle more children would come and they were putting them on the desks and wherever there was a space. I was there and 5 of them died on spot !!! cause the mothers had been waiting for the past 6 hours or so but no one was there and the children died in thier arms, cold.

you ever seen a child die? let me tell you, I seen it. cried over it, he opens his eyes, looks up like he is looking for somone,takes a deep breath, his chest goes in, his grips are tighten & then he close his eyes again & you think he is sleeping. that's it !!!

wah re wah ... apna mulk hoga ... azadi hogi ... sahoolat hogi!!! acha mazak hay jis nay b kia hoga.

I rest my case !!!

Posting on behalf of Masadi sahib who continues to remain banned by the chowkstaff.

Pakistan didn't kill your father, peons of the West (deleted) that maintain Pakistan's colonial status did. Quit blaming the victims for misery (deleted) thugs have caused

Regards

PS: A few personal attacks have been edited

sheikh sb,
i am really very sorry to hear of ur father's tragic death in this manner. u r absolutely correct that we do not have accountability and, for this, we are all guilty. i suspect that there is no organisation in pakistan that would take up this cause.