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Pakistan India: Citizens Push for Peace

Beena Sarwar July 8, 2009

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#73 Posted by Hindu_sikh on July 15, 2009 4:46:58 am
Guru g, if it was in 1963 that jln got out ofhis skin ,i think thats undestandable.He had just lost a war and he had the unassailable right to get shorttempered.
secondly ,you resent nehruvian socialism.But when i read Ramchandra guha's majestic India After Gandhi,guha said that in the 1950's fabian socialism was the In thing and every nation save umrica followed socialist policies.Besides,india was just free from a british exploitative industrial rape, capitalism was a no no then.......Guha then says that the right time toopen our economy was in the mid 1960's with the fareastern states,and the responsibility fell on mr s g a kandhas but mrs g nationalized banks resorting to populism.
i meant to ask sb this since long,,'since u have lived thru emergency , do u think the situation preemergency was really that bad to invite such measures or was khushwant singh in why i supported emer just exaggeratin'?i know atleast that JP was asking army to do a coup on mrs g aka vajpayees durga....'
thanks
Ps...forgive my typographical errors ,coz i am writing on my kaaliberry.
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#72 Posted by Hindu_sikh on July 15, 2009 4:10:36 am
Gorki ,with all due respect i must say that u r grossly wrong in ur judgement of chowk. i have been here only for a week,but i find it much better than the fascist,antinehru,antigandhi.anti india website that u visit......thequality ofdebates here is exceptional many atime,just go ,see dost mittars article on sikhism and the comments that follow.The debate is of University standard there and a compendium of problems of sikhism.Similarly,the archives section here is marvellous,i have read their 9/11 archive,and musharrf coup posts,which were enlightening...moreoverur pth chums are chowk veterans,i guess.
lastly,if the fascist,antinehru,orwellian website that u visit is wine, Chowk is single malt.......and the biggest features...
1. In this website one doesnt need to suck upto that anti nehru,anti india shyster .
2. Dissent is tolerated here.....for example,,in thst bhagatsingh post the moment bono reminded that shyster of manners,shyster asked bomo to vote with his feet that is fuck away....result bono even asked apologies to sb 30yrs junior to him.
3-on the fascist website that u visit,rules are made by that shyster. having read 1984 and animal farm recent.y, i can say that ,that ahmadi is the real life avatar of napolean the pig....that shyster is so rude , so anti nehru ,do anti gandhi and i wonder why do u give him so much bhaav? everything that he says has sth against nehru ,against gandhi,,,,,ek had hoti hai,bakwaas ki bhi.
4. The best thing,,,,,,,this comment will not be deleted and nobody will pontificate me. This is democracy ....doctor ji.
5. Chowk is owned by a sexy harvard professor radhika nagpal,,and that orwellian website is run by a fanatic,antinehru shyster.
PS....that shyster got admission into the american college thru his daddy's money and not through his own merit and that too he disnt get any professional degree just a plain BA......Gorki ji,in indiacompetition for professional seats is much tougher than in usa, like 170000 students for 28 mamc seats.there,even harvard gets only 25000 applications.no wonder indian doctors ,used to such painful competition , become the best international doctors.We the iitians ,mamcians,aiimsonians ,jipmerites ,iimians of india will turn india's fortunes for the better,you just wait....

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#71 Posted by Hindu_sikh on July 15, 2009 3:40:54 am
Guru g , you are something...you write even wittier than sunday hindustan times indrajit hazra(who is among mu fav columnists).....telll me guru,aapke maapdand pe kou politician khara utra hai? This isnt a rhetorical query.....of course anna ji wasnt a politician.....i guess u live in pune ,,i recently visited pune for afmc mbbs interview,i must say that pune is one of the most historically cool cities i ve been to,,,,but there r so many paits...shukrvar pait.mangalvar pait etc and in the older part streets are very tortuou and traffic jams unnervings .one thing i ve observed is that you marathis r a very proud people unlike many other ethnicities.
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#70 Posted by guru on July 14, 2009 9:36:36 am
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#69 Posted by nkg on July 14, 2009 6:14:06 am
muslas on the job...
Venue: France...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8149362.stm
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#68 Posted by BJ2 on July 14, 2009 2:49:28 am
Re: # 67

Ama Gorki, when you see somebody guzzling angoor ki beti and singing anaap-sanaap then you are seeing their asli roop -- not when they are parked on their butt sipping tepid tea!


:):):)
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#67 Posted by gorki on July 14, 2009 2:30:36 am
I stumbled on this site by sheer accident and to say that I am shocked is an understatement. What do we have here?

Some names that I recognize: Majumdar and Riaz Haq; finding you gentlemen here in this mud fight is like catching your favorite high society icons drinking hooch at the country liquor store!! Aren’t you guys wasting your talent here? Or is this some kind of a bawdy release after a hard day’s work? Whatever it is; I know you both are better than this.
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#66 Posted by nkg on July 14, 2009 1:34:20 am
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#65 Posted by bhs75 on July 14, 2009 12:37:59 am
Maoists expand grip in India with deadly attacks
IANS
Published: July 13, 2009, 20:11

New Delhi: The killing of 29 policemen in Chhattisgarh, the epicentre of Maoist violence, has been the deadliest attack mounted by the rebels this year, demonstrating how they have expanded their grip in vast swathes of the state and beyond. With 13 policemen, who were pressed into combing operations, still missing after Sunday's attacks, the security establishment in New Delhi has been shaken by the assault and is again re-examining the government's approach in dealing with left-wing extremism

*****

and what is this all about? indian version of talibans?
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#64 Posted by SPY on July 13, 2009 9:56:52 pm
Re: # 59 hindu_sikh...you dont need to have doubts about your role model based on every incident. After all JLN was a human being and had his share of follies and mistakes, but that does not reduce the importance of his contributions to the developoment, future of India.

But yes Guru's comment about Beena should make you thinking.
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#63 Posted by SPY on July 13, 2009 9:38:59 pm
Guru ji ...you are great...

I never realised your posts (#61, 57, 56, 55) were so interesting, that I read them multiple times to enjoy them. They reflect my thoughts (but I must admit you are wittier) and I could immediately connect to them.
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#62 Posted by muqaddam on July 13, 2009 11:03:11 am
Even when the Pakistani army was assaulting its own population in the Swat region, one of the interviewees was blaming India for the trouble saying yeah unn taqaton ki harqat hai jinhone Pakistan ke wajood ko tasleem nahin kiya.
This just goes to show how much prejudice exists among the common and often uninformed people.
What is required is detoxifying the peoples thought processes. Opinions about Pakistan in India are no doubt quite negative but Pakistanis' views of India are more rabid.

The Pakistani Punjabi Mussalman army which controls Paksitan has to take the lead in softening its attitude towards India if any meaningful advance is to be made in bridging the divide.
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#61 Posted by guru on July 13, 2009 9:34:44 am
Indu Tumhe bahut kuch Sikhana padhega! Aur woh Kisi BA (Hon.) books se nahi milega!

Apna Chikna was definitely much better than their Draculla. But still he was ultimate BA (Hon.) He built IITs and thanks for that so that I could have quality basic engineering education. But science and technology does not grow by raising islands of nice buildings. Science temperament spreads by efforts of Dr. Vandana Shiva, Arvind Gupta (ex-IIT Kanpur) and simple gandhian folks such as Anna Hazare. Apna Chikna was not even completely democratic and meritocracy. Go and find more about C. D. Deshmukh and appointment of Kaul as general. You should read Himalayan blunder

I do not who choded whom. But chikna foolishly raped Indian civilization. He was basically a goomrah emotional good fellow whom I also respect. But he would have learned a lot from the fisherman folks at Brandra creek, esp about family values and how to raise a daughter. Gandhi should have abolished congress (which he wanted) in 1947 and should have made India to have a mobile capital...one year in Dharavi, one year under Hawara bridge, one year in Nagaland, one year in Leh. Then our BA Hons chiknas would have learned real socialism, secularism and democracy.

"Beena ,are you tje same scribe who visited the IE office a few months back? I think i read your interview there ....You were cool and the other female journalist that accompanied you sounded cooler."

How did she become cool? By fake British convent accent? Was she eating chiken-tikka with forks? Was she holding the whisky peg in Left hand to show solidarity with the so called secular Left?

For me Hindu is secular by design. Period! We do not need to learn from some one else.
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#60 Posted by Hindu_sikh on July 13, 2009 8:30:09 am
Beena ,are you tje same scribe who visited the IE office a few months back? I think i read your interview there ....You were cool and the other female journalist that accompanied you sounded cooler.
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#59 Posted by Hindu_sikh on July 13, 2009 8:27:26 am
Guru g, i have read the three works of Nehru and have been his fan since.I dont care if he fucked edwina or kamala.I dont care about the failure of his Nam vam philosophy.But what matters to me above all is that he and he alone saved us from the hindutva brigade and let india become a secular democracy.But for him,tandon ,prasad ,mookerjee woukd have converted my beautiful bharat to hindu republic of india.................i worship him sinply coz of his gift of a secular democracy......,, what year were you talking about g when thus incident happened g?
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#58 Posted by Hindu_sikh on July 13, 2009 8:19:15 am
Guru g, you are full of wit. BUT i am shocked to hear that jln asked jhuggies to be set on fire.Kya aap fenk rahein yah ek dum truth? Iask this coz I have a few role models in my life/ JLN, A R RAHMAN(much b4 oscars), ANURAG KASHYAP ,manmohan singh and my dad....i feel reallydisillusioned on kbowing this side of nehru,if its true.........Please say that you were fek rahe theabout apna chikna,g. Also, is there anything called immaculate politician?I am seeking role models....
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