Mr. President, Stop the War!
Akber Choudhry October 5, 2009
#177 Posted by meenug on October 12, 2009 9:49:08 am
Islam is one faith, which has divided humanity into two permanently warring factions: those who believe in Allah and Muhammad, are the God's Party, and those who do not, are the Devil's Party. The former have the most sacred duty to eliminate and subdue the latter. So urgent is this purpose that Islam not only encourages its followers to murder, plunder and seduce the women of the infidels but also projects such murder, plunder and seduction as the greatest virtues. Islam calls it "Jehad", which guarantees the Mujahid (holy warrior) salvation i.e. a seat in Paradise.
Jehad is all about massacre, mutilation and misery, and not about any moral, social or humanitarian service as the Muslim divines pretend.
Again, there is a direct connection between jehad (murdering non-Muslims) and paradise i.e. the provision of the choicest sex-after-death in the most hilarious settings ebullient with pleasures, presents and pleasantries.
Having sex after death is a novel concept, which can be realized by terrorizing, tearing and tyrannizing the non-Muslims. The commission of atrocities against infidels makes Allah honor-bound to offer paradise as a gift to a Muslim!
Islam is the only true way of life: the rest is fake, foul and felonious; the People of the Book i.e., the Jews and Christians, are not believers but infidels. They must be murdered or enslaved.
The True Way of Life i.e., Islam, has been prescribed by Muhammad and Allah jointly, and not just by Allah. This is the reason that Kalmah i.e. the fundamental confession that purifies one to become a Muslim, allots an equal status to Allah and Muhammad. Look at the wording of the Kalmah:
"There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is His Apostle."
Stating them both in one line makes them equal, but when we examine it carefully it transpires that in practice this confession pertains to Muhammad only because a person cannot be a Muslim by believing in Allah alone; he/she must believe in Muhammad as well! A hadith says:
"I (Muhammad) have been commanded to fight against people, till they testify to the fact that there is no God but Allah, and believe in me (Muhammad) as the Messenger (from the Lord)...and when they do it, their blood and riches are guaranteed protection on my behalf except where it is justified by law." (Muslim 1: 31)
The hadith makes it crystal clear that not only belief in Muhammad is equally imperative, but all guarantees of protection are to be issued in his name! Thus Allah is just a figure-head, who leaves all administrative affairs to Muhammad! This is what makes Allah a scabbard and Muhammad the sword; it lowers the former to the position of skimmed milk and elevates the latter to the status of cream!
Allah has been made to perform for Muhammad the function of early dawn, which acts as a temporary curtain and then disappears when the sun reveals its face. Allah is just a euphemism for Muhammad and Jehad is the medium to disclose this truth by raising Muhammad to the summit.
This indirect approach of Muhammad displays his wisdom, wonder and wizardry. He apparently claimed to be the humble servant of Allah and sought His glory "only". This approach involved opposition to idolatry and therefore caused him a lot of trouble, torment and torture. This showed that he had no ax to grind in his mission. The analysis of the Kalmah and his success-story, however, clearly demonstrate that he opposed idolatry, to destroy all statues so that he himself could be the only idol!
Jehad is all about massacre, mutilation and misery, and not about any moral, social or humanitarian service as the Muslim divines pretend.
Again, there is a direct connection between jehad (murdering non-Muslims) and paradise i.e. the provision of the choicest sex-after-death in the most hilarious settings ebullient with pleasures, presents and pleasantries.
Having sex after death is a novel concept, which can be realized by terrorizing, tearing and tyrannizing the non-Muslims. The commission of atrocities against infidels makes Allah honor-bound to offer paradise as a gift to a Muslim!
Islam is the only true way of life: the rest is fake, foul and felonious; the People of the Book i.e., the Jews and Christians, are not believers but infidels. They must be murdered or enslaved.
The True Way of Life i.e., Islam, has been prescribed by Muhammad and Allah jointly, and not just by Allah. This is the reason that Kalmah i.e. the fundamental confession that purifies one to become a Muslim, allots an equal status to Allah and Muhammad. Look at the wording of the Kalmah:
"There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is His Apostle."
Stating them both in one line makes them equal, but when we examine it carefully it transpires that in practice this confession pertains to Muhammad only because a person cannot be a Muslim by believing in Allah alone; he/she must believe in Muhammad as well! A hadith says:
"I (Muhammad) have been commanded to fight against people, till they testify to the fact that there is no God but Allah, and believe in me (Muhammad) as the Messenger (from the Lord)...and when they do it, their blood and riches are guaranteed protection on my behalf except where it is justified by law." (Muslim 1: 31)
The hadith makes it crystal clear that not only belief in Muhammad is equally imperative, but all guarantees of protection are to be issued in his name! Thus Allah is just a figure-head, who leaves all administrative affairs to Muhammad! This is what makes Allah a scabbard and Muhammad the sword; it lowers the former to the position of skimmed milk and elevates the latter to the status of cream!
Allah has been made to perform for Muhammad the function of early dawn, which acts as a temporary curtain and then disappears when the sun reveals its face. Allah is just a euphemism for Muhammad and Jehad is the medium to disclose this truth by raising Muhammad to the summit.
This indirect approach of Muhammad displays his wisdom, wonder and wizardry. He apparently claimed to be the humble servant of Allah and sought His glory "only". This approach involved opposition to idolatry and therefore caused him a lot of trouble, torment and torture. This showed that he had no ax to grind in his mission. The analysis of the Kalmah and his success-story, however, clearly demonstrate that he opposed idolatry, to destroy all statues so that he himself could be the only idol!
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#176 Posted by meenug on October 12, 2009 9:35:22 am
Jehad - The history of the 14 centuries of Islam bears evidence to the fact that Muslims have never reconciled to having non-Islamic people anywhere in the globe. The Muslim lifestyle may have changed - Jazzy Cars instead of the Camel Caravans, Denims instead of the Dishdashas (the flowing gown of the Arabs), their weapons may have changed from the sword of Allah to the Islamic Atom Bomb. But their outlook remains unchanged - that of the Jehad - to convert all Kafirs to Islam on the pain of death.
Jehad is nothing but an inducement to murder and plunder non-Muslims for the sheer crime of not believing in Muhammad. It is called a "holy war." Those who return home victoriously, come laden with booty, which includes wealth and non-Muslim women for concubinage and free seduction but those "crusaders" who are killed "in the way of Allah" go straight to paradise where ever-young virgins of exquisite beauty anxiously wait to serve them! Even more stunning is the fact that while every code of moral conduct treats murder, rape, plunder, lechery as sins, Islam counts them as acts of piety.
During the 20th century, Islam has lost its luster as the projected ambassador of peace, compassion and humanity in the face of the rising tide of human rights and the instinctive demand of justice for all. It has caused a lot of embarrassment to the Muslim propagandists. Therefore, to pull wool over the eyes of the non-Muslims, some Muslim scholars say that the Islamic Jihad is a defensive war against the aggressors.
The Prophet has said:
"Acting as Allah's soldier for one night in a battlefield is superior to saying prayers at home for 1000 years." (Ibne Majah, vol. 2, P 166)
Now, one can see for one's self the violent nature of Islam, its purpose and the methods of securing it.
Jehad is nothing but an inducement to murder and plunder non-Muslims for the sheer crime of not believing in Muhammad. It is called a "holy war." Those who return home victoriously, come laden with booty, which includes wealth and non-Muslim women for concubinage and free seduction but those "crusaders" who are killed "in the way of Allah" go straight to paradise where ever-young virgins of exquisite beauty anxiously wait to serve them! Even more stunning is the fact that while every code of moral conduct treats murder, rape, plunder, lechery as sins, Islam counts them as acts of piety.
During the 20th century, Islam has lost its luster as the projected ambassador of peace, compassion and humanity in the face of the rising tide of human rights and the instinctive demand of justice for all. It has caused a lot of embarrassment to the Muslim propagandists. Therefore, to pull wool over the eyes of the non-Muslims, some Muslim scholars say that the Islamic Jihad is a defensive war against the aggressors.
The Prophet has said:
"Acting as Allah's soldier for one night in a battlefield is superior to saying prayers at home for 1000 years." (Ibne Majah, vol. 2, P 166)
Now, one can see for one's self the violent nature of Islam, its purpose and the methods of securing it.
#174 Posted by a_r_j_u_n284 on October 12, 2009 7:15:56 am
From pavo's ilog..now I wonder how prophetboy(pbuhsrr) is going to spin this to exonerate the paki army and blame it on the arabs...
Hello Masters! Are You Home?
By Anwaar Hussain
knock-knock
With the audacious Taliban attack at the GHQ main gate this Saturday, the very portal wherefrom these creatures came slithering out more than two decades back, the affair between the creator and the creations has come full circle. Knock knock, said the hypnotized oddballs, rudely shaking their masters out of their reverie– perhaps fatefully and finally.Why did these killers come calling on the doorsteps of their makers?
The simple answer to this question is that while the creators may be experiencing a memory dump, the creations cling on zealously to their cherished past.The masters may be trying to forget the time when back in the 80s, on the calling of the grand masters from distant lands, they were supplying almost 65,000 tons of weapons per year to these same godmen. The aims for the grand masters then–the Soviet Union had to be taught a lesson and the resources in its hinterlands accessed. And for the GHQ supremos suffering from majestic delusions–a strategic depth had to be carved out in face-off with India while having a go at the leftovers from the Manna once the grand masters had left the table.The godmen remember the beginning when they were used and misused in Kashmir. But it was in Afghanistan where they achieved a real life form.
They remember that it was on the urging of 'grand visionaries' from this very HQ that the JUI party in Pakistan, a political party always tight with the military, released thousands of seminary students to fortify the Taliban.
They recall how the generals from within these four walls encouraged Maulana Samiul Haq to shut down his 2500+ student madrassa and send his entire student body to fight the Soviets alongside the Taliban. The next year, the same religious leader helped persuade 12 madrassas in Pakistan's Frontier Province to shut down for one month and send 8000 students to provide reinforcements for the Taliban army in Afghanistan. That was just the beginning, they remember it.The godmen lovingly recall times when back in 1995 just within three months, with the support of men from these same buildings, they took control of twelve of Afghanistan's 34 provinces and had captured Kabul by September of 1996. Ah! those heady times, the giddy action, the vengeful killings, the Jihadi songs, the dance of the dead men, the glorious martyrdoms, the endless funds, the deadly weapons….they remember it all.
They remember of course how these generals looked the other way when the Taliban started to spread their dark dogmas to parts of Pakistan. They recall the amused looks in the eyes of these 'grand strategic thinkers' when a little while later some Taliban groups in FATA were banning TV and videos, bombing barber shops, beheading opponents, imposing Sharia punishments such as stoning and amputation in open defiance of Pakistan's legal system, killing Shias and forcing people, particularly women to adapt to the Taliban dress code and way of life.
The godmen remember the helping hands from the GHQ when they were stirring the hell-broth of innovations from Sharia, Pathan tribal codes and radical Deobandi interpretations of Islam. Matter of fact they vividly recall when a little while later the 'thinkers in khaki' added to the marinade generous portions of their own of Wahhabism of the rich Saudis and the jihadism and pan-Islamism of some other born-again religious mutants. The 'thinkers' were aware all along of course that the heady brew ferments in time into a concoction the imbibers of which would kill any one opposing their creed, religion not withstanding.
And now when fully imbibed the godmen are, the makers disown them? And that too on the urging of some distant infidels? Nay. Now THEY come calling.For the affair to end conclusively any time soon, the creators will have to expedite aborting the experiment that has gone dreadfully out of kilter. For the purpose, the memory dump will have to be accelerated, the brakes on the military steam roller standing at the gates of Waziristan gathering steam for some months now gently released and the colossus allowed to slam into the heart of darkness with full momentum.
Hello Masters! Are You Home?
By Anwaar Hussain
knock-knock
With the audacious Taliban attack at the GHQ main gate this Saturday, the very portal wherefrom these creatures came slithering out more than two decades back, the affair between the creator and the creations has come full circle. Knock knock, said the hypnotized oddballs, rudely shaking their masters out of their reverie– perhaps fatefully and finally.Why did these killers come calling on the doorsteps of their makers?
The simple answer to this question is that while the creators may be experiencing a memory dump, the creations cling on zealously to their cherished past.The masters may be trying to forget the time when back in the 80s, on the calling of the grand masters from distant lands, they were supplying almost 65,000 tons of weapons per year to these same godmen. The aims for the grand masters then–the Soviet Union had to be taught a lesson and the resources in its hinterlands accessed. And for the GHQ supremos suffering from majestic delusions–a strategic depth had to be carved out in face-off with India while having a go at the leftovers from the Manna once the grand masters had left the table.The godmen remember the beginning when they were used and misused in Kashmir. But it was in Afghanistan where they achieved a real life form.
They remember that it was on the urging of 'grand visionaries' from this very HQ that the JUI party in Pakistan, a political party always tight with the military, released thousands of seminary students to fortify the Taliban.
They recall how the generals from within these four walls encouraged Maulana Samiul Haq to shut down his 2500+ student madrassa and send his entire student body to fight the Soviets alongside the Taliban. The next year, the same religious leader helped persuade 12 madrassas in Pakistan's Frontier Province to shut down for one month and send 8000 students to provide reinforcements for the Taliban army in Afghanistan. That was just the beginning, they remember it.The godmen lovingly recall times when back in 1995 just within three months, with the support of men from these same buildings, they took control of twelve of Afghanistan's 34 provinces and had captured Kabul by September of 1996. Ah! those heady times, the giddy action, the vengeful killings, the Jihadi songs, the dance of the dead men, the glorious martyrdoms, the endless funds, the deadly weapons….they remember it all.
They remember of course how these generals looked the other way when the Taliban started to spread their dark dogmas to parts of Pakistan. They recall the amused looks in the eyes of these 'grand strategic thinkers' when a little while later some Taliban groups in FATA were banning TV and videos, bombing barber shops, beheading opponents, imposing Sharia punishments such as stoning and amputation in open defiance of Pakistan's legal system, killing Shias and forcing people, particularly women to adapt to the Taliban dress code and way of life.
The godmen remember the helping hands from the GHQ when they were stirring the hell-broth of innovations from Sharia, Pathan tribal codes and radical Deobandi interpretations of Islam. Matter of fact they vividly recall when a little while later the 'thinkers in khaki' added to the marinade generous portions of their own of Wahhabism of the rich Saudis and the jihadism and pan-Islamism of some other born-again religious mutants. The 'thinkers' were aware all along of course that the heady brew ferments in time into a concoction the imbibers of which would kill any one opposing their creed, religion not withstanding.
And now when fully imbibed the godmen are, the makers disown them? And that too on the urging of some distant infidels? Nay. Now THEY come calling.For the affair to end conclusively any time soon, the creators will have to expedite aborting the experiment that has gone dreadfully out of kilter. For the purpose, the memory dump will have to be accelerated, the brakes on the military steam roller standing at the gates of Waziristan gathering steam for some months now gently released and the colossus allowed to slam into the heart of darkness with full momentum.
#173 Posted by a_r_j_u_n284 on October 12, 2009 7:05:17 am
Car Bomb Kills at Least 41 in Restive Region of Pakistan
By PIR ZUBAIR SHAH and MARK McDONALD
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — A suicide car bomber attacked a military vehicle in a crowded market in northwest Pakistan on Monday, killing at least 41 people and wounding dozens more, police and hospital officials said.
The explosion occurred at the Alpuri market, whose shops are adjacent to a police station and a mosque, in the Shangla District within the restive Swat Valley. Among the dead, according to a local police official, were six soldiers and four newly recruited members of a community police force.
No one took immediate responsibility for the blast, although the blame is likely to fall on Taliban insurgents who have been active in the area. The Pakistani military had declared Swat District cleared of militants after an offensive this summer, and this was the most deadly militant attack in the region since the end of that campaign.
Militants have challenged the writ of the Pakistani government in the area for years. In November of 2007, for example, militants seized the administrative headquarters in Alpuri in a bold operation that embarrassed the Pakistani Army and became a symbol of the government’s receding control. At the time, the military had just been granted broader powers under an emergency decree to battle Taliban fighters and other militants who had steadily been taking control of Swat. Shangla, geographically in the Swat Valley, was broken off as a separate administrative district in the mid-1990s.
In Monday’s attack, a four-wheel drive vehicle packed with explosives hit a military truck that was alongside two others, an intelligence official said. The military truck was also carrying explosives, creating a massive blast.
The bombing on Monday followed a string of major attacks in other parts of Pakistan, including a suicide bombing at the World Food Program’s offices in Islamabad on Oct. 5, a market bombing in Peshawar on Friday and a brazen weekend assault by Taliban gunmen on the nation’s military headquarters in Rawalpindi, the garrison city next to Islamabad.
#172 Posted by SPY on October 12, 2009 12:35:06 am
Re: # 125 Akber says: "Opportunism is OK and India took advantage of the opportunity that 9/11 offered, but overdoing it has made India schizophrenic: at some times pretending to be a mini-America, sometimes a mega-Israel by ridiculing Muslims while having a 25% Muslim population, and all the while knowing deep down that it has a society that has some of the most ancient and dogged problems in the world, and poverty that is almost institutionalized."
You are mixing many different things in this para. For an Indian the first half is totally wrong while the second half is fully right.
What makes you think India is opportunistic, schizophrenic, mini-America, Mega-Israel etc. India's interest coincides with the American involvement in Af-Pak region, as it has opened up the western front for Pakistan and in return lowered the Pak sponsored terrorism in India. The moment Pak finds its western border in control, as has happened recently after the killing of Betulla Mehsud, it has once again resorted to the old game of Kabul Indian embassy blast, and increase of terrorist clashes in Kashmir. You fail to condemn or stop these dirty tricks of your Pak country. You are hiding your upset at the improvement of India’s security position (“Opportunism is ok”), and want to mix it with the topics on Indian Muslims and Indian poverty. These are totally unrelated.
Unless you talk about settling the real issue (i.e. Put a stop to Pak sponsored terrorism in India) rest all is meaningless for an Indian. In fact you should be praising India for keeping its muslim pouplation away from the problems faced in most of the Islamic world such as fundamentalism and terrorism.
You are fully right about the second part of your paragraph (Indian poverty) and that is India’s internal problem and we fully acknowledge it and are working on it. But why are you bringing it here, when you are no better than us, rather going around with a begging bowl every month to the IMF and friends of Pakistan etc. We never lecture you on your situation, despite knowing that a substantial part of these aids is diverted for use against India. Musharaff accepted it.
You are mixing many different things in this para. For an Indian the first half is totally wrong while the second half is fully right.
What makes you think India is opportunistic, schizophrenic, mini-America, Mega-Israel etc. India's interest coincides with the American involvement in Af-Pak region, as it has opened up the western front for Pakistan and in return lowered the Pak sponsored terrorism in India. The moment Pak finds its western border in control, as has happened recently after the killing of Betulla Mehsud, it has once again resorted to the old game of Kabul Indian embassy blast, and increase of terrorist clashes in Kashmir. You fail to condemn or stop these dirty tricks of your Pak country. You are hiding your upset at the improvement of India’s security position (“Opportunism is ok”), and want to mix it with the topics on Indian Muslims and Indian poverty. These are totally unrelated.
Unless you talk about settling the real issue (i.e. Put a stop to Pak sponsored terrorism in India) rest all is meaningless for an Indian. In fact you should be praising India for keeping its muslim pouplation away from the problems faced in most of the Islamic world such as fundamentalism and terrorism.
You are fully right about the second part of your paragraph (Indian poverty) and that is India’s internal problem and we fully acknowledge it and are working on it. But why are you bringing it here, when you are no better than us, rather going around with a begging bowl every month to the IMF and friends of Pakistan etc. We never lecture you on your situation, despite knowing that a substantial part of these aids is diverted for use against India. Musharaff accepted it.
#171 Posted by SPY on October 11, 2009 11:39:30 pm
Re: # 125 Akberc says: "How many brown or black lives are worth one white life? Where does India stand on this?"
My view is that India needs to first fix the problem as stated in your points (2) and (3), before its voice can be heard on the points (1) and (4). That is fix the in-house problems before expressing any views on international matters.
At a personal level I decry each human killing and treat every human, be it a white, brown or black, all are the same.
My view is that India needs to first fix the problem as stated in your points (2) and (3), before its voice can be heard on the points (1) and (4). That is fix the in-house problems before expressing any views on international matters.
At a personal level I decry each human killing and treat every human, be it a white, brown or black, all are the same.
#170 Posted by masadi on October 11, 2009 7:42:25 pm
On Ana and Allah- the ilog wont let me post so let me post it here:
Ana, this trinity business cannot be found from the lips of Jesus even in the "orthodox" holy documents you have and the Allah that Arab Christians referred to did not include the Holy Ghost in the equation. The hanifs, i.e. the followers of Ibrahim before the dawn of Christianity used Allah the word to refer to God, the Bible itself in the OT uses Elah which is the same as Allah. Anyway, much evil has been and is being done in the name of Christianity so pointing a finger at what is being done in the name of Islam is a form of ethnocentrism/racism on your part.
Have a nice day and open up your ilogs to comments.
Ana, this trinity business cannot be found from the lips of Jesus even in the "orthodox" holy documents you have and the Allah that Arab Christians referred to did not include the Holy Ghost in the equation. The hanifs, i.e. the followers of Ibrahim before the dawn of Christianity used Allah the word to refer to God, the Bible itself in the OT uses Elah which is the same as Allah. Anyway, much evil has been and is being done in the name of Christianity so pointing a finger at what is being done in the name of Islam is a form of ethnocentrism/racism on your part.
Have a nice day and open up your ilogs to comments.
#169 Posted by masadi on October 11, 2009 7:32:06 pm
The Obama manipulation: the rebelling masses, rebelling against the US system were pacified using symbolism of inclusion and real change in the person of Obama in the 2008 presidential elections. Obama's preplanned failure given the enormity of the crisis faced is supposed to deflect that rebelliousness against the system towards the direction of racial failure on the part of African Americans, fermenting the racial divide while at the same time preserving the status quo of the US permanent war economy. A very ingenious way of solving this systemic crisis by the U.S. elite, using the U.S. public as cattle prodded through the "vote" and slogans of "change" back towards their slaughter line-up where their personalities and identities are slaughtered by the corporations on a regular basis.
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#167 Posted by nkg on October 11, 2009 3:55:52 am
Re: # 155
hamidm2...
Indians are civilised and each individuals definitely like to stick to his own profession rather than want to be warrior....btw....these allah's army is not helping muslas to much either....
hamidm2...
Indians are civilised and each individuals definitely like to stick to his own profession rather than want to be warrior....btw....these allah's army is not helping muslas to much either....
#166 Posted by nkg on October 11, 2009 3:52:42 am
Re: # 125
akber c...
the issues you are bringing out are temporary in nature and will go away after sometime...Islam is a persistant problem and had to be tackled in diferent way....yeh, India do house large numbner of muslas but that does not make muslaism or muslas something decent and civilised....
akber c...
the issues you are bringing out are temporary in nature and will go away after sometime...Islam is a persistant problem and had to be tackled in diferent way....yeh, India do house large numbner of muslas but that does not make muslaism or muslas something decent and civilised....
#165 Posted by bharat25t on October 10, 2009 7:34:52 pm
An article by Kushwanth Singh, very well respected on both sides of the border.
What does the aam aadmi in Pakistan think of the murder and mayhem committed by 10 of his countrymen in Mumbai last year on November 26? The question is of vital importance if you really mean to understand the Pakistan government’s tactics when presented with convincing evidence that the entire operation was planned by Pakistani nationals on Pakistani soil and executed by Pakistanis.
No government which pretends to represent the people of its country can afford to ignore public opinion. To begin with, there was blank denial of any Pakistani being involved in the crime. This was tinged with apprehension that India may retaliate by carrying out similar operations in Pakistan and trigger off yet another mutually destructive Indo-Pak war. When that fear proved baseless, it was replaced by a sense of achievement, a feeling of pride that their countrymen could plan and execute such a daring exploit with such finesse.
Kasab’s voluntary confession that he was involved in the crime and how it was carried out ought to have silenced all doubts about the identities of the perpetrators and their motives. It did not. Even the fact that among the innocent victims over 40 were Muslims was brushed aside. The sense of false pride in performing a foul deed still persists.
Hafiz Muhammad Saeed is a later discovery. Our official spokesman refers to him as the “brains behind the conspiracy”. I checked the allegation with a few Pakistani friends who have no anti-India bias and were in Delhi over Dussehra. Though general opinion was that if there is one thing Hafiz Muhammad Saeed does not have are brains. “He is a rabble-rouser,” said one. “At the most he could be a fund-raiser, motivator or instigator, but not a planner.” There can be no doubt that there were many others in the conspiracy.
However, Hafiz Muhammad Saeed has been accorded the status of a celebrity. There can be no other explanation of his present whereabouts. One day we are told he has been arrested, the next day that he is only under house arrest, the third day his lawyer professes over TV, radio and at a press conference that he is a free man. What are we to believe? Whatever evidence we produce is discounted as ‘half-baked’. In this atmosphere of mutual mistrust, the prospects of an Indo-Pak dialogue ending in an agreement to punish criminals still at large in Pakistan and elsewhere appear to be dismal.
What does the aam aadmi in Pakistan think of the murder and mayhem committed by 10 of his countrymen in Mumbai last year on November 26? The question is of vital importance if you really mean to understand the Pakistan government’s tactics when presented with convincing evidence that the entire operation was planned by Pakistani nationals on Pakistani soil and executed by Pakistanis.
No government which pretends to represent the people of its country can afford to ignore public opinion. To begin with, there was blank denial of any Pakistani being involved in the crime. This was tinged with apprehension that India may retaliate by carrying out similar operations in Pakistan and trigger off yet another mutually destructive Indo-Pak war. When that fear proved baseless, it was replaced by a sense of achievement, a feeling of pride that their countrymen could plan and execute such a daring exploit with such finesse.
Kasab’s voluntary confession that he was involved in the crime and how it was carried out ought to have silenced all doubts about the identities of the perpetrators and their motives. It did not. Even the fact that among the innocent victims over 40 were Muslims was brushed aside. The sense of false pride in performing a foul deed still persists.
Hafiz Muhammad Saeed is a later discovery. Our official spokesman refers to him as the “brains behind the conspiracy”. I checked the allegation with a few Pakistani friends who have no anti-India bias and were in Delhi over Dussehra. Though general opinion was that if there is one thing Hafiz Muhammad Saeed does not have are brains. “He is a rabble-rouser,” said one. “At the most he could be a fund-raiser, motivator or instigator, but not a planner.” There can be no doubt that there were many others in the conspiracy.
However, Hafiz Muhammad Saeed has been accorded the status of a celebrity. There can be no other explanation of his present whereabouts. One day we are told he has been arrested, the next day that he is only under house arrest, the third day his lawyer professes over TV, radio and at a press conference that he is a free man. What are we to believe? Whatever evidence we produce is discounted as ‘half-baked’. In this atmosphere of mutual mistrust, the prospects of an Indo-Pak dialogue ending in an agreement to punish criminals still at large in Pakistan and elsewhere appear to be dismal.
#164 Posted by bharat25t on October 10, 2009 7:32:20 pm
Re: # 154
We Hindus stopped short of Entering Pakiland cos of our leaders misguided Gndhian philosophy of Non Violence...
Anywayzz... All the chest thumping, all the Allah o Akbars....and all the "we may be illeterate dumbos but we are superior fighting machines".... etc etc.... has nt won you a single war..
Lost all three wars with Hindus and Icing on the cake was Cut into Two Parts East Paki/ West Paki
So as always... its only a propaganda and a old Quranic tactic of Bullying other religions but in the end the stupidity of Muslim minds is no match...
Majority of Pakistan is out of control.... Except for few areas. There is widespread blood and gore. Your 5 year olds are being made as Suicide Bombers...
All this never been seen before violence in Human History is happening in ur country and there are people on Chowk discussing how gr8 is Paki army.....
Its smthn for Psychologists to research abt on why Muslim populations are so insensitive to blood and gore and why are they attracted towards self destruction.
We Hindus stopped short of Entering Pakiland cos of our leaders misguided Gndhian philosophy of Non Violence...
Anywayzz... All the chest thumping, all the Allah o Akbars....and all the "we may be illeterate dumbos but we are superior fighting machines".... etc etc.... has nt won you a single war..
Lost all three wars with Hindus and Icing on the cake was Cut into Two Parts East Paki/ West Paki
So as always... its only a propaganda and a old Quranic tactic of Bullying other religions but in the end the stupidity of Muslim minds is no match...
Majority of Pakistan is out of control.... Except for few areas. There is widespread blood and gore. Your 5 year olds are being made as Suicide Bombers...
All this never been seen before violence in Human History is happening in ur country and there are people on Chowk discussing how gr8 is Paki army.....
Its smthn for Psychologists to research abt on why Muslim populations are so insensitive to blood and gore and why are they attracted towards self destruction.
#163 Posted by tahmed32 on October 10, 2009 7:17:55 pm
#162: re-read what i wrote, one-quarter-brain.
#162 Posted by a_r_j_u_n282 on October 10, 2009 7:14:18 pm
prophet tahmed...the jihadis(and their creators, the paki security establishment) were all pakis...not arabs...
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