Uncles Kerry and Lugar

paisa deh raha hain. Take and and go.

Interestingly what is the opinon of chowk livers on Blackwater Soldiers in Pakistan. Should they be there or asked to to be there?

#26 muqaddam: while you are entitled to your views, you are not entitled to get creative in fact-making. The Pakistan COAS, e.g., had thousands of leaflets air-dropped over Waziristan to assure the locals that this war was directed only at those opposing the government.

But if living in your own make-believe, spiteful little world makes you happy, dont mind my saying the above.

This reminds me of earlier days when Zia-ul-Haq was offered 400 Million Dollars during the Afghanistan war, he called it "peanuts". He wanted cashews. Today is no different. When a beggar is given a rupee he always wants five. And that is what the Pakisatnis will always be: beggars
always asking for more with their faila hua jhola. Shameless.
Also the Pakistanis should not call it a global war on terror because they are participating in it not wholeheartedly but selectively, they have not initiated any action against Lashkar e Tayyeba, Hizb-ul-Mujahidin and other anti-India terror groups.
It is a pity that although such shortsighted policies followed by Pakistan in the past with regard to the Taleban have resulted in their army to lauch operations against their own people (which is in fact a matter of shame), they have not yet learnt the lesson.
One supposes they will learn the lesson but only too late whe there will be no Pakistan.

You guys are still at it?

Don't you guys realize that arguing on the internet is like running in the special Olympics? Even if you win, you are still a retard.

Re: # 11
mussafir...
India and USA are not equals, but USA benefits from India-USA partnership....The volume of business and people to people contact will tell the whole story...

Re: # 16
mussafir...
LOL..
I have put the figure...
Pakistan posssess something around 10/11bnUS$ of Foreign Currency Reserve to support import and US contributes a large portion of it....If you don't take the aid, from where will you get the money...The basic source for foreign currency is export, remittance,institutional borrowing ( IMF/WB) or dole...Pakistan created a situation, where the first 2 is not enough to sustain...and the 3rd and 4th depends heavily on USA....
USA has already spent a lot of money on Pakistan for this mission (GWOT) and do you feel they are neive enough to withdraw from the mission just because your ISI etc. does not like Kerry-Lugar bill?
The bottom line is that, Pakistan is paid some as mercy dole, but will not be allowed to wihdraw from the present conflict...Otherwise, it may face similar fate like Iraq....
The danger from taking loan from other 2 sources, I have already pointed out....

If you feel, India is in similar position, then carry on...

I know why are you here, if you don’t like the bill don’t take the money,” WOW? its sad to see pk in this state.

Re: # 18

WASHINGTON: A situation was created here at the Capitol Hill on Tuesday afternoon when Republican Congressman from 10th District of Virginia Frank Wolf snubbed PML-N Senator Syed Zafar Ali Shah who had come here to express the party’s point of view over the Kerry-Lugar Bill.

“I know why are you here, if you don’t like the bill don’t take the money,” said an angry Frank Wolf when he saw Syed Zafar Ali Shah in his chamber. However, the PML-N senator did not lose his patience and tried to explain the situation but Frank Wolf was not in a mood to listen to any argument.

“It’s your ISI and government who were supporting the Taliban,” the Congressman kept on bashing Syed Zafar Ali Shah who during the first couple of minutes was confused by the abrupt and unexpected response by Wolf. However, in the later part of the conversation Shah fired back saying, “Don’t ask me anything about the ISI or the government. I represent the people of Pakistan. And in fact it was the US government which kept on supporting the ISI.”

Later, talking to this correspondent Syed Zafar Ali Shah said the conversation of Frank Wolf was unexpected and carried no logic. “He was only expressing his anger but when I confronted him he was kind, soft and apologetic,” Shah said.

That’s nice and dandy Mussafir Sahib, but why compare a little mouse to an elephant? US at least has something to show for for what it spends on education and bombs, every American child is entitled to upto high school education, and the state will homeschool you if you live in the boonies. Can you say the same for Pakistan? The sentiment here is that if you don’t like to get this aid, no one will twist your arms. Just turn it down and continue with your horse and pony show with one hand feeding the terrorists (ISI) and the other trying to milk the west by showing how big a threat the terrorists are to them. Oh boy, it is becoming clear by the day whose problem it is.

It was your stupid generals that objected to the conditions of the aid, and not the so-called democratic government. You guys need to get your own house in order before telling the giver what how when and why. Trust me, no one is listening here, if anything the givers are getting a bit tired of the nonsense.

Re: # 15 Kulharee
You are not alone in your thinking, what most people are finding really hard to swallow is that the beggars have become the choosers this time around. I will not go as far as to say that the Pakistani nation has awoken from it's deep slumber and suddenly found its lost pride and honor. But I will say that the nation has realized its worth to America and interests in the region and is asking for the just price for its own efforts and the hardships it's facing because of it.

Uncle Sam is so used to buying Pakistani support for cheaps that it's having a hard time accepting this fact too and hence the 'frustration' and 'disappointment' Kerry is feeling. I personally think this is the only unintended benefit for Pakistan of having a civilian government in the foreground at the moment.

As for spending more on building bombs than education, I think you have a long line of asses to kick, starting with the US which spends 8 times more on defense than education, and 4 times more annually on the GWOT. Go look it up.
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Re: # 10 Bharat25
I am sorry, but I could not find this particular quote on the Dawn website. Googling brought back a link to 'The News' website. However this is not the only mentionable quote from the reported story. It also tells of how Kerry went to see the President, the Prime Minister, Army Chief, ISI chief and PML-N chief Mian Nawaz Sharif, to convince them to not oppose the bill. This is the same Nawaz Sharif whom the US previously found so very despicable. And yet Kerry found it in his charitable heart to go see him as well. Then Kerry also confessed at the end of the press conference how hard he found it to give away $7.5 Billion, especially when he mentioned that in these hard economic times the US could find better uses of this money right there in the US. Now tell me who is playing to cheap galleries here? When was the last time you saw someone begging someone else to accept his 'charity'? Kerry's posturing is of the same level as that of the Pakistani administration. That's all there is to it.
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Re: # 11 Nkg
Your naivety is so adorable and cute I feel like giving you a little hug and hide you from the realities of the big bad world. I agree with your observation that Pakistan and India are not equals, in any sense of the word, but I thought everyone already knew that? On the same level, the idea that USA and India are equals in any sense of the word is also chuckleable.
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Re: # 14 Apollo
Your sarcasm is not lost on me, and in the same spirit I will accept your apology. Next time read the whole thing before you comment. Although I am flattered by your effort with which you created a new user account just to bait.
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You can send the meat back with your note, but since when have beggars become choosers? US is not imposing any restrictions on where to spend the aid, all it is asking is that it should be spent under Civilian oversight. Why is that such a difficult thing to understand by a bunch of knuckleheads? Why should US build the silk weaving plants and power plants in Pakistan? You got that right when you say, US is not Pakistan’s Mama. When a country spends less than 3% of its domestic product on education and more than that on building bombs should be kicked in the ass.

Musafir
Thanks for clarifying. I apologize for my last comment for I understand now; your article is aimed at objecting the objectivity of an article which objects to all objection to the bill. I am sure you have good reasons to write it.
Regards

captrafi...
for day to day purpose, Pakistan needs some reserve currency (other than PkR) for import....Do you know, how much USA contributed to your FCR so far?
The other contributors can be China or Saudis...
If China provides assistance, they will take away whatever natural resource Pakistan possess...

If Saudi and ME contributes, that will be to help Islamic cause, which is source of your current problem....


Do you any other nation, which will be ready to help you?