Talha el Ghafoor

if you are going to regret or be ashamed of doing sumthing..dont do it in the first place...that been one of my many mottos since i hit puberty. i was never ashamed of `flirting` with you shahbaz..the reason i brought it up and perhaps had you confused was because...it seemed that you thought i had wanted a internet relationship with somone who ive never met and rarely agree with on some internet magazine ( some credit please..not THAT desperate). i had asked you once before..to refrain from assuming things about me and my lifestlye..i will kindly ask you the same again..you REALLY could not be more off on reading my personality. its interesting to me to see that you have written things down about a woman who is supposed to be my counterpart..yet you are describing some aspects of me. ( yeah something to think about there..stop categorizing everyone in ONE group) ASK me if you do not know what im talking about rather then assuming that i was ashamed, that im NOT human ( on that point..i believe i had mentioned something in a previous response about being human and how many ppl did not realize it and how its NOT a bad thing..humans have basic wants and desires and by all means follow through with them..dont leave regrets behind you) and that i wanted more then a writing partner on chowk...( all i had wanted was to work with you on a piece..that really was all my intention). boys needing me in jersey..ther are plenty..poori line par line lagee howee hai ghar kay bahar, its just that i like the idea of one boy at a time....i will go bestow my favors on them..sorry to have bothered you.

rizvi.

ps. my last response was higly sarcastic..i wish you had gotton it..i was doubled over with laughter whilst i wrote it. also, im done with this man..i HATE having to come on and try to defend myself while trying to not publish my whole entire life on the net. its not very effective and just makes me mad. truce kar bhi lou...

aik aur baat, sachee mein i wasnt looking to lead you on and spur you ( if i led you on..you, or any boy, would not have been spurned..unless it were mutual)just wanted to make that REAAAALLY clear..you are under some misconception that my `flirting` was a means to an end..flirting really isnt.

re: reply 21.

see this is why you are so adorable shahbaz ( not hitting on you, not flirting..just making a statement)...you are right..plz its ok..i will take care of myself..i will make do without you..i dont know how i will be able to go on.but i understand that there are other women out there who need you more..

*zehra continues with her hand on her forehead

woe is me to be living in NJ and not being close enough to you to share you with the countless other women who need you..who need to be enlightned and loved by you..oh WOE IS ME. alas..it suppose that perhaps it was not meant to be...plz..go one without me..perhaps sometime in my thirties..when i am awakened properly..i will find you once again..but till then..do spare me a thought or two at times..it is what i will use to survive without your benign presence. kaisee jewoon gee mein knowing that you are there, helping women know themselves, the real flesh and blood women, the ones living close enough to you, the ones that can touch and feel you..the thought is just killing me.

*zehra swoons from the grief

take care buddy :))

z.rizvi.

ps. if you ever bring my father into other discussions again..( especailly generalizing him into some kind of slave driver/master figure etc) i will kick your arse, truce or no truce :))

zehra ``still reeling from the temerity you have in assuming things`` rizvi.

shahbaz.

plz refrain from ASSUMING things about ME and my character. the way you have read me thus far has had me pulling the hair out of my head in frustration.( will i have to wear hijab if im ganji?) you just dont get it. perhaps i am not eloquent enough in expressing who i am or you are just an AWFUL judge of character. wahtever it may be..i call an end to this futile and pointless discussion. truce?

zehra *i`d make a damn cute ganji * rizvi.

a nobel endevor on your part shahbaz to free the oppressed and confused women out there. best of luck ( said in all sincerity). but do remeber..unless they dont want to be helped..it wont work...trust me..ive tried. some ppl do enjoy living life the way you have mentioned it...just tasting it and not really living it...ppl like that dont realize as humans they have the choice and the freedom to live life like they want and NOT to follow norms and mores if they choose not to. as for the email you sent me telling me you couldnt bother with me since i am safe behind my computer screen etc..its ok..you are the most obtuse person i have ever met and absolutely refuse to see beyond my hijab. i can deal with that..its really not all that new to me. im still naive in the sense that i still keep thinking ppl see ME and not the hijab. ghalti meri hai. ap saab ki nahin. we all make choices and learn to live with them.



zehra ``must learn to stop aimlessly flirting with men and women`` rizvi.

Rod Stewart???? your taste in men leaves MUCH to be desired.

i would suggest brad pitt or antonio sabato jr. tons more potent.

zehra `` back to pretending to be a woman`` rizvi.

your preoccupation with sex is cute..really it is.

also..i m not fliritng with you dude...i call ppl luv or jaan or sweetheart on a regular basis..i do NOT mean to insult in any of what im about to say next. i am NOT trying to be something i am not. i am not trying to flirt with you safe behind a computer screen...i had assumed that you were more mature then jumping on my use of endearments. i see it was my mistake. i will refrain from addressing you in anything less formal than ``shahbaz``. as for my being a woman and failing miserably in your eyes...close your eyes ``shahbaz`` cuz im not goign to be any more woman or any less woman than i already am. im quite happy with my state of affairs and very comfortable in my own skin and sexuality to let your insinuations roll right off my back. the women you have quoted above are just as womanly as i...who are you to decide waht constitutes a woman or doesnt? VERY presumptituous of you and frankly very immature. i have NO idea waht kind of women you seem to have met in your life but it seems not to have had a favorable impression on you. if you would only forget for two minutes that you are speaking to a `purdofied lady` you wouldnt think half the things you think about me. i suppose my whole point in talking to you and addressing and being open with you is that i hoped to show you a different aspect of womanhood..something you have not yet experianced. a hijabi with a mind, opinion, open sexuality and `emancipated`. a novel experiance..you must be reeling from the shock, im sure. im positive im older then you. no need to worry bout me flirting ok? :)) i promise i wont come after you with a marriage proposal. :P

Re: Zehar-a & Shah-Baz

What crap you playing on chowk. Please try to jump somewhere else and keep flirting there.

re shabaz:

sorry to have to bring this up in a public forum, but is there something wrong with your email addy? i sent you mail and it bounced back, hitting me somewhat painfully between the shoulder blades and the ego.
do write.

shandana

im doing a fine and dandy job leading myself astray. tradition culture and religion serving us rather then we serving them. its all a matter of prespective, luv..cuz..the way i lead my life..you would think ( im guessing here based on your `bad boy` chowk image..again patronizing, again intentional, again sorry)...you would think that i was/were serving tradition. for me..tradition is serving me or religion is serving me or my culture is..as i said..its all about whose eyes you are seeing it through. as for loving women who talk dirty...why dont you love them for who they are more then what they can accessorize their words with? its the same as loving a woman becuase she...hmmm becuz she has her nose pierced or something..its not very substancial. whatever turns you on baby. :P

re: shahbaz

is this devouring and feasting of a metophorical intellectual kind or other? :)))) hell, im up for both :P

re: shahbaz.

rebel: desi boy who is not being a `model` son..and infact tries to go out of his way to do so. desi boy who tries to shun all norms. desi boy who will not abide by tradition. desi boy who will go out of his way to bad mouth hijab, religion and anythign to do with god.

hope that clarifys MY definition of rebel for you in this case.

you should damn well be complimented by my use of wording when describing you. ppl i like, i curse at. :)) im still writing that story on ya.

take care

z.rizvi.

Peter,

You`ve created a rich and complex character in Talha, a fascinating young man. However, imho, I think you`ve tried to cram too much information about him in a short piece. As a result, I don`t feel emotionally connected to the character and am not very enagaged by the narrative. As it stands, the piece comes off reading more like a letter of recommendation for univeristy admission than a structured biography.

I would relate more to Talha if you showed more of his actions, including dialogue and physical descriptions, rather then just telling me about him. Write a scene in which he interacts with the people around him. That would be a much more effective characterization than a simple description of his personality and beliefs. Also, I would love to read his Byronic letter to his first love; it would be a great window into his thought process.

This is a great start, pregnant with potential. Looking forward to more of your work.

lovely writing style here :)

re; shahbaz

you enjoy seeing yourself as some kind of a rebel of sorts. its endearing. ( excuse the patronizing tone. its intentional). stop thinking about what you should come off as to people. i think im going to write about you. you are f *cking fascinating; `enlightened` but not using it for any means.

once again peter...great character deconstruction.

z.rizvi.