Lavishly Citrus

A very lund-awakening article indeed! .

This article is part 2 of ``Pakistani men just don`t know how ...``

thanks for the distinction...got me to chuckle too. :)

rizvi

I ignored the first part of this stupidity hoping that it would die quietly, but NO! So I have to say this: Can someone, anyone, stop this peurile, self-indulgent and downright irritating second-by-second diary of the self-absorbed, the shallow and the uninteresting? If I want a corny soap opera, I have plenty of T.V channels to choose from, I don`t need to come to Chowk to read this trash!

I wish the narrator had kept his thoughts to himself, at least then one could give him the benefit of the doubt. They took away whatever this reader was willing to grant. And worse, they weren`t even unintentionally humorous. But as they say he had to do it ...

Talking of Rumi and Ghalib: As if the downright inanity of the lives of these two characters wasn`t enough, Mr. K just had to talk about something he knows nothing about. Is nothing sacred anymore?? My advice, let these gentlemen be with those who can appreciate them, and Mr. K should just concentrate on flirting with twenty-something year olds with the minds of fourteen year olds.

This guy is, like, a teen-ager playing it out with an older woman or what?

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Get a life

As R says :

``There are days when I feel so American, so assimilated...I feel I can almost marry a white man.``



and I say, ``Yeah but would a white man marry you`` Drums and tadadtishhh!!! (Audience break into a fit of laughter)

On the serious side, why do # * * * * *-up Pakis think that America is all about white people, they always say of marrying a ``white man`` or a ``White girl``, why, are the Hispanic and Black, or Asian, in other words the non whites, any less American than whites? Why are we so racist? I can`t help it if you people only see ``Tyrone`` or ``Pablo`` or

``Yang`` as the stereotypical ``Non - whites``, believe me there are lots who are better. Personally I am a very rasict person, I don`t like white people, actually I hate them. Another thing I find strange about #$$$$##-up ABCD`s is that they make fun of blacks, Asian and Hispanic. So do the whites, but they do so cuz they think they are superior, and what do these ABCD`s do, they look upto white people, and think of them as more superior than any other race, even theirs. Peace and chill!

K: Well, someone has to look around once in a while...it was dark and late at the beach, y`know...you had your eyes shut the whole time so I...

I didn`t know there was a beach in Dallas !!!. In part I, K mentions that he is 100 miles from Rubina who is in Dallas. You also mentioned that Ruby takes Kamran to her apartment whichsjould be in Dallas!!!. Mr. Author, ``Mirch Masala`` is OK but it tells me a lot about you.

Hmm... so let me get this straight.. R lives 100 miles away from K.. and K lives in Dallas.. so that can only mean one thing, R lives in San Antonio.. and they could have gone down all the way to houston to the Galveston beach! R if you live in San Antonio, you are mine!!!

Does Chowk have nothing better to print than the private telephone conversations of a boy and a girl?

have to agree with ibn e sina. I thought trashy bestsellers were bad, this is way worse.

First of all, am I just seeing it or is Mr.Kamran actually supposed to be 100 times more well-read and cultured teacher of this woman, who has supposedly read nothing but Cosmo and Degas????

On the other hand our ABCD shams-ul-ulema Mr.Kamran has read Ghalib, Rumi, Iqbal, etc. And while gems of knowledge are flowing out of every word Mr.Kamran is saying, the girl is supposed to know of Rumi through Deepak Chopra? This is pathetic, so damn pathetic it makes me cry.

Khush kismat hain key aap beywafa nikle. Wafadaar to kut-tay hotay hain

At one end Mr.Kamran is a connoisseur of high-flying poetry of Ghalib, Iqbal and Rumi. On the other hand he is quoting this supposed she`r (out of metre, btw) which the girl finds funny.

Anyway this whole thing is incredibly sappy. I resisted my temptation to barf as I read it. As if this whole desi relationship topic hadn`t been beaten to death before, we have a story of an Allama Kamran sweeping a `dumb blonde` off her feet by quoting poetry. Second half seems to be a `charba` from Jackie Collins or something. Jeez! Grow up!

Noor

I`m smiling. Not the punch of the first one, I`ll have to go through it again, but there`s an impact there somewhere.

Boy, the longer you go between writing, the worse your language gets...vacation is corrupting me!!

B.

Man, just marry the chick and get it over with.

I`ve had the same conversations...in high school.

kamran,

Thank you for this fascinating thread. I have found it to be not only entertaining, but also very thought provoking. (Ignore all these people criticising you, they are just jealous :)).

I guess the use of actual (?) dialogue makes for a more engaging and stimulating read.

And why do I think the topic is thought provoking: because it embodies far more than the lifestyles of two individuals. I see in it- and relate to- ABCDness, conflict in the writers mind arising from a perceived confusion of where s/he belongs (?) and consequently attempts to ascertain a `way of life` consistent with the prejudices of the east and west... or am I jut talking gobbledegook.

I dont think it is simply about Kamran and Rubina, it is more about how two Pakistanis (who are apparantly well versed in life) try to find their through these societal pressures. Pressures which each and every one of us has to deal with, as we develop through our lives in te west.For example, we have Rubina... who openly admits to having previous lovers...yet disapproves of drinking. Contradiction in terms? This is ABCDness, aint it? Are kamran and Rubina a typical example of a prospective Pakistani couple, or are they quite unique. Do they herald a turning point in Pakistani society`s stance, or is the liberated independent Pakistani female (Rubina) an aspect of everyday life. These are the questions I ask myself, as I attempt to overecome my own ABCDness.

Eagerly Looking forward to more intimations of Rubina and Kamran!

Amir

Chowk editors,

Wake up guys, I have been a part of this community since 97 and the level of writing keeps on deteriorating. Most replies are much more insightful and comprehensive as compared to the babbling of Mr. K. It seems to come straight out of English 101. We are not idiots, Okay!