Touch
Zehra Rizvi August 7, 1999
#37 Posted by rinku21here on March 17, 2007 4:35:59 am
Hi ,
The three questions are marvellous, well asked . To me these three questions make your poem beautiful.
The three questions are marvellous, well asked . To me these three questions make your poem beautiful.
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#36 Posted by waseemte on October 1, 2003 11:48:53 am
so..here i am again...
touched.....
well,zehra,ur work do remind me of that feeling sensuality which lawrence describes so well...its complete body n soul condensed in words...seldom have i seen such beautiful words....
and this has to be read ith whteva kinda expression u feel like...since evbuddy here is trying to find similarities with u...n thinking of seeing u once u go to ´their´part of the world,I think I shud also say something....
Next time u do fly over atlantic,have a nice time,n stay out of my way.....
just keep on writing...
cheers
waseem
touched.....
well,zehra,ur work do remind me of that feeling sensuality which lawrence describes so well...its complete body n soul condensed in words...seldom have i seen such beautiful words....
and this has to be read ith whteva kinda expression u feel like...since evbuddy here is trying to find similarities with u...n thinking of seeing u once u go to ´their´part of the world,I think I shud also say something....
Next time u do fly over atlantic,have a nice time,n stay out of my way.....
just keep on writing...
cheers
waseem
#34 Posted by Zehra on August 31, 1999 2:48:55 am
artz: promises, promises...
you here or still there?
rizvi
you here or still there?
rizvi
#33 Posted by ArtZ on August 30, 1999 6:18:43 pm
Zehra
as always ... i was touched ...
seeing as how everything u write affects me so much .. what say u dump all em losers u been hangin with .. and the two of us can ... talk about our Venetian friend and his wife :P
ArtZ
as always ... i was touched ...
seeing as how everything u write affects me so much .. what say u dump all em losers u been hangin with .. and the two of us can ... talk about our Venetian friend and his wife :P
ArtZ
#32 Posted by STATESMAN on August 19, 1999 2:14:23 am
Rehanhasanansari#31
yeh ishq nahin hain aasaan, ek aag ka darya hai, aur doob ke jaana
hai......
Shaam Hote Hi Chiragon Ko Bujha Deta Hoon
Yeh Dil Hi Kaafi Hai Teri Yaad Main Jalne Ke Liye
Yeh Teri Bhi Aankhon Ka Qusur Hai
Main Tanha Gunahgar To Nahi
In Hi Patharon Pe Chal Ke, Aaa Sako To Aao
Hamaare Ghar Ke Raste Koi Kahkashan Nahi
Kafas Udas Hai yaaro, Subah Se Kuch To Kaho
Kahin To Behr-E-Khuda Aaaj Zikr-E-Yaar Chale
Toot Jaate Hain Sabhi Rishte Magar
Dil Se Dil Ka Raabta Apni Jagah
Dil Ko Hai Tujh Se Na Milne Ka Yaqeen
Tujh Se Milne Ki Dua Apni Jagah
Mast Nazron se dekh lenaa tha..
Agar tamanna thi aazmane ki..
Hum to behust youn hi ho jaate..
Kya zaroorat thi muskurane ki..
Chehrey Per Banawat Ka Gussa,
Aankhon Say Chalakta Pyar Bhi Hai,
Is Shauq-E-Ada Ko Kya Kahiye
Inkar Bhi Hai Iqraar Bhi Hai.
Jo Saaz Se Nikli Hai, Woh Sada Sab Ne Suni Hai
Jo Saaz Pe Guzri Hai, Woh Kis Dil Ko Khabar Hai
yeh ishq nahin hain aasaan, ek aag ka darya hai, aur doob ke jaana
hai......
Shaam Hote Hi Chiragon Ko Bujha Deta Hoon
Yeh Dil Hi Kaafi Hai Teri Yaad Main Jalne Ke Liye
Yeh Teri Bhi Aankhon Ka Qusur Hai
Main Tanha Gunahgar To Nahi
In Hi Patharon Pe Chal Ke, Aaa Sako To Aao
Hamaare Ghar Ke Raste Koi Kahkashan Nahi
Kafas Udas Hai yaaro, Subah Se Kuch To Kaho
Kahin To Behr-E-Khuda Aaaj Zikr-E-Yaar Chale
Toot Jaate Hain Sabhi Rishte Magar
Dil Se Dil Ka Raabta Apni Jagah
Dil Ko Hai Tujh Se Na Milne Ka Yaqeen
Tujh Se Milne Ki Dua Apni Jagah
Mast Nazron se dekh lenaa tha..
Agar tamanna thi aazmane ki..
Hum to behust youn hi ho jaate..
Kya zaroorat thi muskurane ki..
Chehrey Per Banawat Ka Gussa,
Aankhon Say Chalakta Pyar Bhi Hai,
Is Shauq-E-Ada Ko Kya Kahiye
Inkar Bhi Hai Iqraar Bhi Hai.
Jo Saaz Se Nikli Hai, Woh Sada Sab Ne Suni Hai
Jo Saaz Pe Guzri Hai, Woh Kis Dil Ko Khabar Hai
#31 Posted by rehanhasanansar on August 18, 1999 6:28:31 am
Zehra,
Angrayzi ki shairi hamain bohat mushkil say samajh aait hia, lakin Aik Geet, is one of the most beautiful piece of poetry I have read in a while…on chowk anyway..
you have a way with words…….and feelings……you say this one is your fav... I like touch more than this one (without the questions)…..no, equally……:and the temptress at b and n….yeah that one too..
“I am and
So I am. That`s how it is.”
existentialism?
Angrayzi ki shairi hamain bohat mushkil say samajh aait hia, lakin Aik Geet, is one of the most beautiful piece of poetry I have read in a while…on chowk anyway..
you have a way with words…….and feelings……you say this one is your fav... I like touch more than this one (without the questions)…..no, equally……:and the temptress at b and n….yeah that one too..
“I am and
So I am. That`s how it is.”
existentialism?
#28 Posted by Zehra on August 13, 1999 9:28:11 am
satrangi..none.
i was talking about love..not lovers.
my turn..how many grammarians does it take to change a lightbulb?
:)
rizvi.
i was talking about love..not lovers.
my turn..how many grammarians does it take to change a lightbulb?
:)
rizvi.
#27 Posted by OMAR1974 on August 13, 1999 9:28:11 am
Hormone may play role in relationships
NEW YORK (Reuters Health)--Oxytocin, a hormone that plays an important role in many maternal activities, may also play a role in relationships, according to a report.
The study is one of the first to look at the biological basis for human attachment and bonding, said lead researcher, Dr. Rebecca A. Turner, adjunct professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco.
``In the animal literature, oxytocin has been implicated in maternal behaviors and pair bonding,`` Turner told Reuters Health in an interview. ``We wanted to see if it had a similar function in human bodies.``
In humans, oxytocin levels rise in women during childbirth and nursing, and it has recently been discovered that the hormone is also released during sexual orgasm in both genders.
Twenty-five women participated in the study. As part of it, they were asked to conjure a positive emotion, such as ``love or infatuation.`` The women were also asked to recall a time of loss. In addition, some of the participants were given a 15-minute massage, which has been shown to induce oxytocin release in rats, the investigators explain.
The study examined the correlation between oxytocin levels and the women`s involvement in relationships, their level of anxiety in relationships, and the difficulty they experienced being alone. Personality characteristics were measured by standardized tests, and blood samples were taken to measure oxytocin levels.
The researchers report that massage did cause oxytocin levels to rise, but recalling positive emotions did not. Negative emotions caused oxytocin levels to drop.
The study results also showed that women who had higher levels of the hormone during massage and while remembering positive emotions tended to have fewer problems in interpersonal relationships than those with lower levels. Maintaining oxytocin levels during sadness was correlated with lower anxiety in close relationships.
``It seems that having this hormone available during positive experiences and not being depleted of it during negative experiences, is associated with well-being in relationships,`` said Turner, who is also director of student research at the California School of Professional Psychology, Alameda.
Turner believes these preliminary results are encouraging, and expects to learn more from future studies with more participants.
Source: Psychiatry 1999;62:97-113.
Women`s sense of freedom influences choice of mate
NEW YORK (Reuters Health)--Women`s attraction to power and wealth in their mates is governed by their ability to control their own destiny, according to results of a new cross-cultural study.
The less access to education and reproductive freedom a woman has, the more likely it is that she will want a mate with money and power, report researchers at Knox College in Galesburg, Illinois.
Data for this study came from research conducted in 1990, involving more than 5,000 women and 4,000 men in 37 different cultures spanning six continents. The study participants were asked to rank 18 traits of a mate in order of importance. Traits included wealth, ambition and status - the three traits that researcher Tim Kasser, an assistant professor of psychology, says are central to the debate over gender differences in mate preferences.
Kasser`s team correlated the survey data with information from the United Nations on five variables of female reproductive freedom: maternal mortality rate, percentage of births attended by a trained healthcare professional, percentage of women using contraceptives, domestic violence laws in that country, and the fertility rate.
``The standard finding from almost every country was men wanted good looking, young women, and women wanted ... wealthy, high-status men,`` said Kasser in an interview with Reuters Health. ``The difference was compelling.``
The correlations between the desirability of these characteristics and women`s control of their own destiny varied, however, with some countries - particularly developing nations - having a much stronger correlation between low reproductive rights and resource-acquisition characteristics than others.
Previous studies had suggested that wealth and status were desirable traits in males because these factors were assumed to increase survival of offspring. Kasser`s findings suggest that culture also plays a role in a woman`s choice of mate. Where cultures support women`s self-direction, women are less likely to focus on these characteristics in a mate.
For example, in Scandinavian countries, where the observed differences between sexes on mate preference were the smallest, and educational opportunities and reproductive rights the highest, there was little evidence of a widespread preference for men that can ``provide for`` their families.
``The extent to which an environment supports or impedes a woman`s attempts to direct her own destiny affects what she values in a man,`` Kasser explained in a statement. ``When a female is provided with more opportunities to fend for herself, she will become less concerned with finding a mate who can provide resources for her.``
Source: Psychological Science 1999;10:374-377.
NEW YORK (Reuters Health)--Oxytocin, a hormone that plays an important role in many maternal activities, may also play a role in relationships, according to a report.
The study is one of the first to look at the biological basis for human attachment and bonding, said lead researcher, Dr. Rebecca A. Turner, adjunct professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco.
``In the animal literature, oxytocin has been implicated in maternal behaviors and pair bonding,`` Turner told Reuters Health in an interview. ``We wanted to see if it had a similar function in human bodies.``
In humans, oxytocin levels rise in women during childbirth and nursing, and it has recently been discovered that the hormone is also released during sexual orgasm in both genders.
Twenty-five women participated in the study. As part of it, they were asked to conjure a positive emotion, such as ``love or infatuation.`` The women were also asked to recall a time of loss. In addition, some of the participants were given a 15-minute massage, which has been shown to induce oxytocin release in rats, the investigators explain.
The study examined the correlation between oxytocin levels and the women`s involvement in relationships, their level of anxiety in relationships, and the difficulty they experienced being alone. Personality characteristics were measured by standardized tests, and blood samples were taken to measure oxytocin levels.
The researchers report that massage did cause oxytocin levels to rise, but recalling positive emotions did not. Negative emotions caused oxytocin levels to drop.
The study results also showed that women who had higher levels of the hormone during massage and while remembering positive emotions tended to have fewer problems in interpersonal relationships than those with lower levels. Maintaining oxytocin levels during sadness was correlated with lower anxiety in close relationships.
``It seems that having this hormone available during positive experiences and not being depleted of it during negative experiences, is associated with well-being in relationships,`` said Turner, who is also director of student research at the California School of Professional Psychology, Alameda.
Turner believes these preliminary results are encouraging, and expects to learn more from future studies with more participants.
Source: Psychiatry 1999;62:97-113.
Women`s sense of freedom influences choice of mate
NEW YORK (Reuters Health)--Women`s attraction to power and wealth in their mates is governed by their ability to control their own destiny, according to results of a new cross-cultural study.
The less access to education and reproductive freedom a woman has, the more likely it is that she will want a mate with money and power, report researchers at Knox College in Galesburg, Illinois.
Data for this study came from research conducted in 1990, involving more than 5,000 women and 4,000 men in 37 different cultures spanning six continents. The study participants were asked to rank 18 traits of a mate in order of importance. Traits included wealth, ambition and status - the three traits that researcher Tim Kasser, an assistant professor of psychology, says are central to the debate over gender differences in mate preferences.
Kasser`s team correlated the survey data with information from the United Nations on five variables of female reproductive freedom: maternal mortality rate, percentage of births attended by a trained healthcare professional, percentage of women using contraceptives, domestic violence laws in that country, and the fertility rate.
``The standard finding from almost every country was men wanted good looking, young women, and women wanted ... wealthy, high-status men,`` said Kasser in an interview with Reuters Health. ``The difference was compelling.``
The correlations between the desirability of these characteristics and women`s control of their own destiny varied, however, with some countries - particularly developing nations - having a much stronger correlation between low reproductive rights and resource-acquisition characteristics than others.
Previous studies had suggested that wealth and status were desirable traits in males because these factors were assumed to increase survival of offspring. Kasser`s findings suggest that culture also plays a role in a woman`s choice of mate. Where cultures support women`s self-direction, women are less likely to focus on these characteristics in a mate.
For example, in Scandinavian countries, where the observed differences between sexes on mate preference were the smallest, and educational opportunities and reproductive rights the highest, there was little evidence of a widespread preference for men that can ``provide for`` their families.
``The extent to which an environment supports or impedes a woman`s attempts to direct her own destiny affects what she values in a man,`` Kasser explained in a statement. ``When a female is provided with more opportunities to fend for herself, she will become less concerned with finding a mate who can provide resources for her.``
Source: Psychological Science 1999;10:374-377.
#26 Posted by ferozk on August 12, 1999 6:44:25 pm
Re: temporal
Loved that All Points Bulletin you posted on Chowk about me!
Pakistan is an option right now, but I have to take care of a few things before I end up there! The reason why I posted that thought was because of my femme d`coeur. I am seriously thinking about it, because that is the only way I can get away from my object d`amour.
Your warnings could be pre-mature, because I still dazed and confused right now and I might meet another heart ache while re-bounding from this one!
Loved that All Points Bulletin you posted on Chowk about me!
Pakistan is an option right now, but I have to take care of a few things before I end up there! The reason why I posted that thought was because of my femme d`coeur. I am seriously thinking about it, because that is the only way I can get away from my object d`amour.
Your warnings could be pre-mature, because I still dazed and confused right now and I might meet another heart ache while re-bounding from this one!
#25 Posted by Satraangi on August 12, 1999 11:14:07 am
``life is too short to only love once but i cant help envying those who do...im grateful im not one
of those cuz i wouldnt be half the woman i am today if it were so.``
how many lovers does one need to have to feel complete ?
of those cuz i wouldnt be half the woman i am today if it were so.``
how many lovers does one need to have to feel complete ?
#23 Posted by STATESMAN on August 12, 1999 11:14:07 am
Hi,Omar Sb.
If you look in the ``rear view`` mirror of your memory in Pakistan,didnt we knew about,Pagla, who acted like Romeo,Majnoon,Farahad or Heer .All this research only confirms ``Pagal kardiya``Also if there is bad conotation for love lorn,In my scool i read a book called Animals,friend & my family the epilogue of it read ``There is a pleasure sure in being mad which no one but the mad men know``
But iam glad you brought the science of SEROTONIN because such striken by cupid does lead to suicide,destructive career for let down parents.& debilitating condition``Gaya kaam se beechara ise Ishq ho gay hai``
However all is not lost.these love couplets are example of how creative juices like the ``roller coaster serotonin level``Van Gogh,others were organically psychiatric,Alcohol & drugs can also do the same.
yeh ishq nahin hain aasaan, ek aag ka darya hai, aur doob ke jaana
hai......
Shaam Hote Hi Chiragon Ko Bujha Deta Hoon
Yeh Dil Hi Kaafi Hai Teri Yaad Main Jalne Ke Liye
Yeh Teri Bhi Aankhon Ka Qusur Hai
Main Tanha Gunahgar To Nahi
In Hi Patharon Pe Chal Ke, Aaa Sako To Aao
Hamaare Ghar Ke Raste Koi Kahkashan Nahi
Kafas Udas Hai yaaro, Subah Se Kuch To Kaho
Kahin To Behr-E-Khuda Aaaj Zikr-E-Yaar Chale
Toot Jaate Hain Sabhi Rishte Magar
Dil Se Dil Ka Raabta Apni Jagah
Dil Ko Hai Tujh Se Na Milne Ka Yaqeen
Tujh Se Milne Ki Dua Apni Jagah
Mast Nazron se dekh lenaa tha..
Agar tamanna thi aazmane ki..
Hum to behust youn hi ho jaate..
Kya zaroorat thi muskurane ki..
Chehrey Per Banawat Ka Gussa,
Aankhon Say Chalakta Pyar Bhi Hai,
Is Shauq-E-Ada Ko Kya Kahiye
Inkar Bhi Hai Iqraar Bhi Hai. --
Tu Is Tarah Se Mere Dil Main Shamil Hai(Note the illusion- hallucination)
Jahan Bhi Jaoon Lagta Hai Teri Mahfil Hai
In Main Moti Hai Ke Pathar, Kise Khabar
Dil To Samundaron Se Bhi Gahra Hai Dosto
Zindagi ek phool hai aur mohabbat us ka shehed
Pyar Ek Dariya Hai, Aur Mehmoob uski sarhad
Raste Main Gire Hain Phool, Uthata Hai Koi Koi
Muhabbat Karte Hain Sabhi, Nibhata Hai Koi Koi
Faasle Jism Ko To Dour Le Jaate Hain
Par Dilon Ke Shahar To Ujarte Nahi
Aankhon Se Aankhon Ka Rishta Tut Jaye Bhi To
Saath Dekhe Hue Khwab To Mit Te nahi
Apne Aagaaz Se Aaaj tak Zindagi
Teri Hi Yaad Main Gum Rahi
Phir Bhi Jaane Kyon Yeh Ihsaas Hai
Jaise Chaahat Meri Kam Rahi
Ek Musafir Ne Raat Pichlay Paha
Humain Mili Us Ki Saza
Jo Khata Hum Kar Na Sakay
Khudaa jab husn deta hai
nazaakat aaa hi jati hai
Kadam chun chun kar rakhti ho
kamar balkha hi jaati hai
Aansoon ko aankhon ki dehleez par laya na karo
Apne dil ki haalat kisi ko bataaya na karo
Log muth-thi bhar namak liye ghooma karte hain
Apne jhakam kisi ko dikhaaya na karo
Yeh hawa ka koi jhonka nahi
Teri yaadon ka ek samundar hai
Mohbbat karna koi zulm nahi,
Agar ki jaye usool se,
Khuda ko bhi muhabbat thi,
Apne rasoul se
Mujhe bhulna bhi chaho to bhula na sako ge
Main to palkon pe thahar jaoon ga, aaansoon ki tarah
Tum badle, jahan badla, badli nazar zamane ki
Yeh Aansu char baqi rah gaye, nishani dil lagane ki
Pyar main jadoo bhi kya maza hai
Lagta hai ke ek khubsurat saza hai
Chaand raaat ko sabhi dekhain, hilaal-e-eid ko
Ik hamara hi naseeba hadiyan turva gaay
Hum the chaand ke nazaare main khoye hue
Bus achanak chand ka abba wahan pe aa gaya
Hui hum se ye nadani,
Kay teri mehfil mein aa baithe
Ho kay zameen ki khakh
Aasman se dil laga baithe
Galat nahi ke zamane main lajawaab hain
maut aai to so lenge.....Ahmed Faraz
Kaun kehta hai mohabbat ki zuban hoti hain...
Yeh haqeeqat to nigahon say bayan hoti hain
Woh na aaye tou satati hai khalish see dil ko...
Woh jo aaye to khalish aur jawan hoti hain
Rooh ko shaad karey dil ko jo purnoor karey...
Har nazaaray mein yeh tanveer kahan hoti hain
Sabt-e-sehlaabay mohabbat ko kahan tak rokay...
Dil mein jo baat ho aankho say ayaan hoti hain
Zindagi ek sulgati see chita hai `Sahir`...
Shola banti hain na yeh bhuj kay dhuaan hoti hain
Kaun kehta hai mohabbat ki zuban hoti hain
Yeh haqeeqat to nikhaon say bayan hoti hain
Aisa lagta hai zindagi....
tum ho Ajnabee, kaise ajnabee tum ho?
Main zameen par ghana andhera hoon...
Aasmaanon-ki chandni tum ho
Ab koi aarzoo nahin baaki.........
justajoo meri aakhri tum ho
Doston-se wafa ki ummeeden!........
Kis zamaane ke aadmi tum ho?
Tu kahin bhi rahe sar pe tere ilzaam to hai
tere haathon ki lakiiron mein mera naam to hai .......
Mujhko tu apnaa bana ya na bana teri Khushi
tu zamaane mein mere naam se badnaam to hai .....
Mere hisse mein koi jaam na aayaa na sahi
teri mehfil mein mere naam koi shaam to hai ....
Dekh kar log mujhe naam tera lete hain
is pe main Khush hoon muhabbat ka ye anjaam to hai .....
Woh sitamagar hi sahi dekh ke usko ``Sabir``
shukr is dil-e-bimaar ko aaraam to hai ...Sabir Jalalabadi
Mausam ne banaya hai nigaahon ko sharaabi
jis phool ko dekhun wahi paimana hua hai ...
Apne haathon se yun chehre ko chhupaate kyon ho,
mujh se sharmaate ho tou saamne aate kyon ho,
Tum kabhi meri tarah kar bhi lo ikraar-e-vafa,
pyaar karte ho tou phir pyaar chupaate kyon ho,
Ashk aankhon mein meri dekh ke rote kyon ho,
dil bhar aataa hai tou phir dil ko dukhaate kyon ho,
In se vaabastaa hai jab mera muqaddar phir tum,
mere shaanon se ye zulf hatate kyon ho,
Roz mar mar ke mujhe jeene ko kahte kyon ho,
milne aate ho to phir laut ke jaate kyon ho ...
Dost ban ban ke mile mujhko mitaane vaale
mai ne dekhe hain kai rang badalane vaale ........
Tumne chup rahkar sitam aur bhi dhaayaa mujh par
tumse acche hain mere haal pe hansne vaale...
Mai tou ikhlaaq ke haathon hi bikaa kartaa hoon
aur honge tere baazaar mein bikne vaale ......
Aakhrii daur pe salaam-e-dil-e-muztar le lo
phir naa lautenge shab-e-hijr pe ronevaale ...Saeed rahi
If you look in the ``rear view`` mirror of your memory in Pakistan,didnt we knew about,Pagla, who acted like Romeo,Majnoon,Farahad or Heer .All this research only confirms ``Pagal kardiya``Also if there is bad conotation for love lorn,In my scool i read a book called Animals,friend & my family the epilogue of it read ``There is a pleasure sure in being mad which no one but the mad men know``
But iam glad you brought the science of SEROTONIN because such striken by cupid does lead to suicide,destructive career for let down parents.& debilitating condition``Gaya kaam se beechara ise Ishq ho gay hai``
However all is not lost.these love couplets are example of how creative juices like the ``roller coaster serotonin level``Van Gogh,others were organically psychiatric,Alcohol & drugs can also do the same.
yeh ishq nahin hain aasaan, ek aag ka darya hai, aur doob ke jaana
hai......
Shaam Hote Hi Chiragon Ko Bujha Deta Hoon
Yeh Dil Hi Kaafi Hai Teri Yaad Main Jalne Ke Liye
Yeh Teri Bhi Aankhon Ka Qusur Hai
Main Tanha Gunahgar To Nahi
In Hi Patharon Pe Chal Ke, Aaa Sako To Aao
Hamaare Ghar Ke Raste Koi Kahkashan Nahi
Kafas Udas Hai yaaro, Subah Se Kuch To Kaho
Kahin To Behr-E-Khuda Aaaj Zikr-E-Yaar Chale
Toot Jaate Hain Sabhi Rishte Magar
Dil Se Dil Ka Raabta Apni Jagah
Dil Ko Hai Tujh Se Na Milne Ka Yaqeen
Tujh Se Milne Ki Dua Apni Jagah
Mast Nazron se dekh lenaa tha..
Agar tamanna thi aazmane ki..
Hum to behust youn hi ho jaate..
Kya zaroorat thi muskurane ki..
Chehrey Per Banawat Ka Gussa,
Aankhon Say Chalakta Pyar Bhi Hai,
Is Shauq-E-Ada Ko Kya Kahiye
Inkar Bhi Hai Iqraar Bhi Hai. --
Tu Is Tarah Se Mere Dil Main Shamil Hai(Note the illusion- hallucination)
Jahan Bhi Jaoon Lagta Hai Teri Mahfil Hai
In Main Moti Hai Ke Pathar, Kise Khabar
Dil To Samundaron Se Bhi Gahra Hai Dosto
Zindagi ek phool hai aur mohabbat us ka shehed
Pyar Ek Dariya Hai, Aur Mehmoob uski sarhad
Raste Main Gire Hain Phool, Uthata Hai Koi Koi
Muhabbat Karte Hain Sabhi, Nibhata Hai Koi Koi
Faasle Jism Ko To Dour Le Jaate Hain
Par Dilon Ke Shahar To Ujarte Nahi
Aankhon Se Aankhon Ka Rishta Tut Jaye Bhi To
Saath Dekhe Hue Khwab To Mit Te nahi
Apne Aagaaz Se Aaaj tak Zindagi
Teri Hi Yaad Main Gum Rahi
Phir Bhi Jaane Kyon Yeh Ihsaas Hai
Jaise Chaahat Meri Kam Rahi
Ek Musafir Ne Raat Pichlay Paha
Humain Mili Us Ki Saza
Jo Khata Hum Kar Na Sakay
Khudaa jab husn deta hai
nazaakat aaa hi jati hai
Kadam chun chun kar rakhti ho
kamar balkha hi jaati hai
Aansoon ko aankhon ki dehleez par laya na karo
Apne dil ki haalat kisi ko bataaya na karo
Log muth-thi bhar namak liye ghooma karte hain
Apne jhakam kisi ko dikhaaya na karo
Yeh hawa ka koi jhonka nahi
Teri yaadon ka ek samundar hai
Mohbbat karna koi zulm nahi,
Agar ki jaye usool se,
Khuda ko bhi muhabbat thi,
Apne rasoul se
Mujhe bhulna bhi chaho to bhula na sako ge
Main to palkon pe thahar jaoon ga, aaansoon ki tarah
Tum badle, jahan badla, badli nazar zamane ki
Yeh Aansu char baqi rah gaye, nishani dil lagane ki
Pyar main jadoo bhi kya maza hai
Lagta hai ke ek khubsurat saza hai
Chaand raaat ko sabhi dekhain, hilaal-e-eid ko
Ik hamara hi naseeba hadiyan turva gaay
Hum the chaand ke nazaare main khoye hue
Bus achanak chand ka abba wahan pe aa gaya
Hui hum se ye nadani,
Kay teri mehfil mein aa baithe
Ho kay zameen ki khakh
Aasman se dil laga baithe
Galat nahi ke zamane main lajawaab hain
maut aai to so lenge.....Ahmed Faraz
Kaun kehta hai mohabbat ki zuban hoti hain...
Yeh haqeeqat to nigahon say bayan hoti hain
Woh na aaye tou satati hai khalish see dil ko...
Woh jo aaye to khalish aur jawan hoti hain
Rooh ko shaad karey dil ko jo purnoor karey...
Har nazaaray mein yeh tanveer kahan hoti hain
Sabt-e-sehlaabay mohabbat ko kahan tak rokay...
Dil mein jo baat ho aankho say ayaan hoti hain
Zindagi ek sulgati see chita hai `Sahir`...
Shola banti hain na yeh bhuj kay dhuaan hoti hain
Kaun kehta hai mohabbat ki zuban hoti hain
Yeh haqeeqat to nikhaon say bayan hoti hain
Aisa lagta hai zindagi....
tum ho Ajnabee, kaise ajnabee tum ho?
Main zameen par ghana andhera hoon...
Aasmaanon-ki chandni tum ho
Ab koi aarzoo nahin baaki.........
justajoo meri aakhri tum ho
Doston-se wafa ki ummeeden!........
Kis zamaane ke aadmi tum ho?
Tu kahin bhi rahe sar pe tere ilzaam to hai
tere haathon ki lakiiron mein mera naam to hai .......
Mujhko tu apnaa bana ya na bana teri Khushi
tu zamaane mein mere naam se badnaam to hai .....
Mere hisse mein koi jaam na aayaa na sahi
teri mehfil mein mere naam koi shaam to hai ....
Dekh kar log mujhe naam tera lete hain
is pe main Khush hoon muhabbat ka ye anjaam to hai .....
Woh sitamagar hi sahi dekh ke usko ``Sabir``
shukr is dil-e-bimaar ko aaraam to hai ...Sabir Jalalabadi
Mausam ne banaya hai nigaahon ko sharaabi
jis phool ko dekhun wahi paimana hua hai ...
Apne haathon se yun chehre ko chhupaate kyon ho,
mujh se sharmaate ho tou saamne aate kyon ho,
Tum kabhi meri tarah kar bhi lo ikraar-e-vafa,
pyaar karte ho tou phir pyaar chupaate kyon ho,
Ashk aankhon mein meri dekh ke rote kyon ho,
dil bhar aataa hai tou phir dil ko dukhaate kyon ho,
In se vaabastaa hai jab mera muqaddar phir tum,
mere shaanon se ye zulf hatate kyon ho,
Roz mar mar ke mujhe jeene ko kahte kyon ho,
milne aate ho to phir laut ke jaate kyon ho ...
Dost ban ban ke mile mujhko mitaane vaale
mai ne dekhe hain kai rang badalane vaale ........
Tumne chup rahkar sitam aur bhi dhaayaa mujh par
tumse acche hain mere haal pe hansne vaale...
Mai tou ikhlaaq ke haathon hi bikaa kartaa hoon
aur honge tere baazaar mein bikne vaale ......
Aakhrii daur pe salaam-e-dil-e-muztar le lo
phir naa lautenge shab-e-hijr pe ronevaale ...Saeed rahi
#22 Posted by Zehra on August 11, 1999 5:27:34 pm
mohd faisal..
hehe..umm yeah, when i was writing it it didnt seem so hoky but i think the poem would be much better off without the silly questions in between. it was written in a day dream like stance and i was thinking as to how much we are guided by others and how another person can make us feel. i hate to think that another person can make me feel more myself but at times, it is true..
thanks for the criticism...i do think that the poem is better off without that line and others like it..only becuase its being viewed by other people..in my journal, i leave it as it is.
omar: life is too short to only love once but i cant help envying those who do...im grateful im not one of those cuz i wouldnt be half the woman i am today if it were so.
rizvi
hehe..umm yeah, when i was writing it it didnt seem so hoky but i think the poem would be much better off without the silly questions in between. it was written in a day dream like stance and i was thinking as to how much we are guided by others and how another person can make us feel. i hate to think that another person can make me feel more myself but at times, it is true..
thanks for the criticism...i do think that the poem is better off without that line and others like it..only becuase its being viewed by other people..in my journal, i leave it as it is.
omar: life is too short to only love once but i cant help envying those who do...im grateful im not one of those cuz i wouldnt be half the woman i am today if it were so.
rizvi
#21 Posted by OMAR1974 on August 11, 1999 5:27:34 pm
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_407000/407125.stm
Falling madly in love may really make you mentally ill, according to Italian scientists.
Their research found emotional and biological similarities between people in love and those suffering from a psychiatric disorder, says a report in New Scientist magazine. Psychiatrist Donatella Marazziti, of the University of Pisa, noticed how lovesick youngsters` one-track thoughts mirrored those of people with a mental illness called obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD).
OCD sufferers experience nagging, anxious thoughts and feel compelled to repeat tasks such as washing their hands and tidying up.
In 1990, Dr Marazziti found OCD was linked to lower levels of the brain chemical serotonin, which affects people`s moods.
But she was struck by how sufferers` obsessive emotions recalled those of people newly in love, who often praise their loved ones wit and beauty for hours on end.
When she and her team compared serotonin levels between 20 lovesick Italian students and 20 people with OCD, they discovered both groups had similarly low levels of the brain chemical.
Obsession aids evolution
`It is often said that when you`re in love, you`re a little bit crazy,` said Dr Marazziti. `That may be true.`
University of California psychiatrist Hagop Akiskal, one of the research team, suggested this obsessive behaviour may be linked to evolution.
Without intense emotion, he said no-one in their `right` mind would fall in love and have children.
But the study found the first flush of love does not last as emotions settle down.
When the researchers tested the students a year later, they found their serotonin levels had returned to normal and their obsession with their partners had died down.
The search for love
Lucy Selleck, a counsellor for marriage guidance group Relate, said people can become blinded by love and make unwise decisions.
`It seems for some people the feeling of falling in love is quite addictive,` she said.
`When it levels off it`s a bit of a let down so they go off seeking it again and again.`
But Vicki Carr, a consultant with dating agency Drawing Down the Moon, said some find the search for love frustrating.
`The people we deal with want to experience the madness of falling in love but it is not really happening.`
Falling madly in love may really make you mentally ill, according to Italian scientists.
Their research found emotional and biological similarities between people in love and those suffering from a psychiatric disorder, says a report in New Scientist magazine. Psychiatrist Donatella Marazziti, of the University of Pisa, noticed how lovesick youngsters` one-track thoughts mirrored those of people with a mental illness called obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD).
OCD sufferers experience nagging, anxious thoughts and feel compelled to repeat tasks such as washing their hands and tidying up.
In 1990, Dr Marazziti found OCD was linked to lower levels of the brain chemical serotonin, which affects people`s moods.
But she was struck by how sufferers` obsessive emotions recalled those of people newly in love, who often praise their loved ones wit and beauty for hours on end.
When she and her team compared serotonin levels between 20 lovesick Italian students and 20 people with OCD, they discovered both groups had similarly low levels of the brain chemical.
Obsession aids evolution
`It is often said that when you`re in love, you`re a little bit crazy,` said Dr Marazziti. `That may be true.`
University of California psychiatrist Hagop Akiskal, one of the research team, suggested this obsessive behaviour may be linked to evolution.
Without intense emotion, he said no-one in their `right` mind would fall in love and have children.
But the study found the first flush of love does not last as emotions settle down.
When the researchers tested the students a year later, they found their serotonin levels had returned to normal and their obsession with their partners had died down.
The search for love
Lucy Selleck, a counsellor for marriage guidance group Relate, said people can become blinded by love and make unwise decisions.
`It seems for some people the feeling of falling in love is quite addictive,` she said.
`When it levels off it`s a bit of a let down so they go off seeking it again and again.`
But Vicki Carr, a consultant with dating agency Drawing Down the Moon, said some find the search for love frustrating.
`The people we deal with want to experience the madness of falling in love but it is not really happening.`
#20 Posted by OMAR1974 on August 11, 1999 8:43:19 am
So I`m sitting here listening to Jon Secada, reading this poem, and i`m thinking hmm, what does she want to capture? The essence of what is love? What its like? Did she succeeed? My personal opinion, YES. Because when you reflect on it, the moments in love that are the most carelessly spent in your lover`s company without a care are the very ones you remember fondly when its over. So yeah, Zehra you did a good job of picking some of those up. Its the everyday, the trivial, mundane, the taken-for-granted times that make up what is love when you think back on it.
As for `the nature of love?`, its fickle, changeable, thats what makes people ALIVE. The promise of never-forever is what makes it fun. Its the tantilization that cms from non-commitment that keeps it interesting. Heart break can be a damper but it goes with the territory. But hey, its not discouraging, afterall who wrote the silly rule that you gotta spend your life with one person even if they no longer make you happy? Thats Cultural-religio-traditional b.s that gets stuffed into people`s heads, nothing more. So be happy, get over it and move on, because life is short and precious. Unless, you`re the type who like spending time at the scence of car accidents/wrecks taking photographs of mangled bodies, twisted fenders and watching, observing, without participating in the tragedy itself, in a detached manner, trying to relate/empathize, consciously, with an awareness that its not you in the wreck so you really can`t ever possibly UNDERSTAND and FEEL for what happened there emotionally. But every writer/poet wants desperately to feel, to capture that feeling in words and prose. Its a never ending quest really. But this is not a bad shot a doing exactly that, since its personal, obviously its easier to feel it. liked it.
Omar
As for `the nature of love?`, its fickle, changeable, thats what makes people ALIVE. The promise of never-forever is what makes it fun. Its the tantilization that cms from non-commitment that keeps it interesting. Heart break can be a damper but it goes with the territory. But hey, its not discouraging, afterall who wrote the silly rule that you gotta spend your life with one person even if they no longer make you happy? Thats Cultural-religio-traditional b.s that gets stuffed into people`s heads, nothing more. So be happy, get over it and move on, because life is short and precious. Unless, you`re the type who like spending time at the scence of car accidents/wrecks taking photographs of mangled bodies, twisted fenders and watching, observing, without participating in the tragedy itself, in a detached manner, trying to relate/empathize, consciously, with an awareness that its not you in the wreck so you really can`t ever possibly UNDERSTAND and FEEL for what happened there emotionally. But every writer/poet wants desperately to feel, to capture that feeling in words and prose. Its a never ending quest really. But this is not a bad shot a doing exactly that, since its personal, obviously its easier to feel it. liked it.
Omar
#19 Posted by Zehra on August 11, 1999 1:30:52 am
feroz,
ah..my mistake :)
i would laff but its not funny. i hate getting into relationships and usually we end up hurting each other. i have had only one where i havent and he is one of my closest friends ( we are thinking of making a trip up to your part of the world..will keep you posted) i wish relationships didnt have that hurt factor. love...kya hai yaar? one day you love a person will all your might and the next day you find it doesnt fit anymore. got me to question myself..was i the flimsy one? or is that just the nature of love? you asked before if this was blush of a first affair..nah..its not innocent enough. i should try to capture that innocence but i find it to be too private to share. a first love is something too sacred..ESP for chowk.
rizvi
ah..my mistake :)
i would laff but its not funny. i hate getting into relationships and usually we end up hurting each other. i have had only one where i havent and he is one of my closest friends ( we are thinking of making a trip up to your part of the world..will keep you posted) i wish relationships didnt have that hurt factor. love...kya hai yaar? one day you love a person will all your might and the next day you find it doesnt fit anymore. got me to question myself..was i the flimsy one? or is that just the nature of love? you asked before if this was blush of a first affair..nah..its not innocent enough. i should try to capture that innocence but i find it to be too private to share. a first love is something too sacred..ESP for chowk.
rizvi
#18 Posted by lalalala on August 11, 1999 1:30:52 am
ohhhhhhhhhhh, i get it now dat i read it twice..i luv it..u go gurl
#17 Posted by lalalala on August 11, 1999 1:30:52 am
wat da hell was dat????this poem makes me feel slow..plz dont do dat 2 me chowk writers..kehe..im jus kiddin,,i thought it was pretty coo eventho i dont get it..kehe..luv yall..muah
#16 Posted by Faisal on August 11, 1999 1:30:52 am
`What is it about us, that makes us, us?`
That is the single-most awful line I have read in a long long time. The poetic intensity of sensibility withers and all I complain about is irony- or its lack. I think I am more confused- and amused, I must add- about your neologisms. Laughing!
That is the single-most awful line I have read in a long long time. The poetic intensity of sensibility withers and all I complain about is irony- or its lack. I think I am more confused- and amused, I must add- about your neologisms. Laughing!
#15 Posted by temporal on August 10, 1999 8:35:07 pm
AAHAIn, SHIKWAY, AUR NAMAK KA DANA
Mohtarmi Janaab GlennFerozovichKhanov:
Baad aadaab, arz hay kay aap ka is waqt Pakistan jana bohat naa-munasib hoga. Aap Fateh Fauj aur bahadur Afwaaj kay baray maiN jo likh rahaiN haiN oos say donouN campoN maiN aap kay dushmanouN ki taadaad barh rahi hay. Humaray ISI kay mole nay ek bulletin ki kapy humaiN bhayjee hay. Aap ki khidmat maiN hazir hay.
A.P.B.
Ref # PK786/990810/Chowk/Badmash/Feroz
To: All staff and officers at the border check posts.
Please look out for a 5-8, darkskinned, bespectacled, Pakistani male, possible carrying a Canadian or American Passport, short hair with shades of gray, with a permanent smirk, hanging out of left lips. When apprehended, please ensure no bones are broken. If force is used leave no marks on hands or face. Or you may be transferred to Thar. The said indiividual speaks broken Gujrati, Urdu and Punjabi. His English accent is a mix of Grammarian pseudo English half baked with Canadian and Mid western English. Further details are posted on the Entry Control List, rev 08/10. When apprehended seize his luggage. Do not touch any papers or computer disks. Dispatch them with haste to the same room we readied for Najam Sethi.
On a lighter note: you broke us up with the daily dose of femme fatale.
khairiyat ka du`a go,
temporal
Mohtarmi Janaab GlennFerozovichKhanov:
Baad aadaab, arz hay kay aap ka is waqt Pakistan jana bohat naa-munasib hoga. Aap Fateh Fauj aur bahadur Afwaaj kay baray maiN jo likh rahaiN haiN oos say donouN campoN maiN aap kay dushmanouN ki taadaad barh rahi hay. Humaray ISI kay mole nay ek bulletin ki kapy humaiN bhayjee hay. Aap ki khidmat maiN hazir hay.
A.P.B.
Ref # PK786/990810/Chowk/Badmash/Feroz
To: All staff and officers at the border check posts.
Please look out for a 5-8, darkskinned, bespectacled, Pakistani male, possible carrying a Canadian or American Passport, short hair with shades of gray, with a permanent smirk, hanging out of left lips. When apprehended, please ensure no bones are broken. If force is used leave no marks on hands or face. Or you may be transferred to Thar. The said indiividual speaks broken Gujrati, Urdu and Punjabi. His English accent is a mix of Grammarian pseudo English half baked with Canadian and Mid western English. Further details are posted on the Entry Control List, rev 08/10. When apprehended seize his luggage. Do not touch any papers or computer disks. Dispatch them with haste to the same room we readied for Najam Sethi.
On a lighter note: you broke us up with the daily dose of femme fatale.
khairiyat ka du`a go,
temporal
#14 Posted by ferozk on August 10, 1999 6:02:16 pm
Re: Zehra # 13
You miss understood me, Z! I meant to compare notes so we could both laugh together at just how silly these games can get!!!!!
As to my femme d`jour, she is a reminder why I stopped playing these games a long time ago and why I am thinking of returning to Pakistan this fall.
I can`t stand her any more!!!
You miss understood me, Z! I meant to compare notes so we could both laugh together at just how silly these games can get!!!!!
As to my femme d`jour, she is a reminder why I stopped playing these games a long time ago and why I am thinking of returning to Pakistan this fall.
I can`t stand her any more!!!
#13 Posted by Zehra on August 10, 1999 12:52:32 pm
re: daring. sweat can be sexy.
re: feroz. i have a feeling comparing notes is not a good idea. i have awful luck when it comes to men. either im with no one ( and happier for it) or i have them crawling out of my ears.
re: slink. the next time i come will be for my Masters research, i think. if i dont change my mind on that one. the idea has stayed in my head for about a month now so i think its safe to assume that i will continue to give it a safe haven there.
re: rehan. touche.
rizvi
re: feroz. i have a feeling comparing notes is not a good idea. i have awful luck when it comes to men. either im with no one ( and happier for it) or i have them crawling out of my ears.
re: slink. the next time i come will be for my Masters research, i think. if i dont change my mind on that one. the idea has stayed in my head for about a month now so i think its safe to assume that i will continue to give it a safe haven there.
re: rehan. touche.
rizvi
#12 Posted by rehanhasanansar on August 9, 1999 6:09:19 pm
Re: Subcontinental #128
In part, my reply to Kant Patel covers issues you have raised as well. I will repeat that it was not illegal, immoral or unethical for the Pakistani government to claim that its troops were not involved in Kargil.
Similarly, while on a moral level I would deplore any violence against civilians anywhere, I don`t think that you can make the case that RAW or the ISI exploding bombs in each other`s capitals while denying all responsibility is ipso facto against the respective national interests. It all depends upon the circumstances.
What is the international law, i.e., treaties accepted by both Pakistan and India, on terrorism? Would acts such as these be covered? Or, would they be OK if we declare war on each other first?
Regards.
In part, my reply to Kant Patel covers issues you have raised as well. I will repeat that it was not illegal, immoral or unethical for the Pakistani government to claim that its troops were not involved in Kargil.
Similarly, while on a moral level I would deplore any violence against civilians anywhere, I don`t think that you can make the case that RAW or the ISI exploding bombs in each other`s capitals while denying all responsibility is ipso facto against the respective national interests. It all depends upon the circumstances.
What is the international law, i.e., treaties accepted by both Pakistan and India, on terrorism? Would acts such as these be covered? Or, would they be OK if we declare war on each other first?
Regards.
#11 Posted by kamran9999 on August 9, 1999 6:09:19 pm
Re: zehra
``it is love..isnt it amazing that we can love on so many levels and love so many people in so many different ways. how ya been?``
It is amazing. I also think that different people have differing capacities TO love. Some are clearly more capable of it than are others. This only becomes visible in time and sometimes in hindsight.
You seem quite capable yourself. :)
I`ve been and am good. Thx for asking.
-!Kamran!-
p.s. Have to tell you something...when I read and responded initially to your poem, it was 3 AM on Sunday morning. I was at a friend`s house and on another plane when I came across it. It put the biggest smile on my face.
``it is love..isnt it amazing that we can love on so many levels and love so many people in so many different ways. how ya been?``
It is amazing. I also think that different people have differing capacities TO love. Some are clearly more capable of it than are others. This only becomes visible in time and sometimes in hindsight.
You seem quite capable yourself. :)
I`ve been and am good. Thx for asking.
-!Kamran!-
p.s. Have to tell you something...when I read and responded initially to your poem, it was 3 AM on Sunday morning. I was at a friend`s house and on another plane when I came across it. It put the biggest smile on my face.
#10 Posted by Studebaker on August 9, 1999 6:09:19 pm
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#9 Posted by ferozk on August 9, 1999 2:06:07 pm
Re: Zehra
Welcome back! Zehra, what brought this about...sounds like the first blush of an affair?
I think the two of us should compare notes, because I am in a similar situation at the present time and if everything goes as planned, she will go back to her x and I will end up wondering, ``what was I thinking about?``
Welcome back! Zehra, what brought this about...sounds like the first blush of an affair?
I think the two of us should compare notes, because I am in a similar situation at the present time and if everything goes as planned, she will go back to her x and I will end up wondering, ``what was I thinking about?``
#8 Posted by slink on August 9, 1999 9:05:19 am
dear zehra,
LOL
i did my best to read it aloud with a come hither smile :))
theres nothing like a woman who isn`t afraid to use her greatest weapon...that would be the power to love.
please do let me know when you come to karachi next, i think we have a lot to share with each other (meant to be read with a raised eyebrow and a smirk)
shandana
LOL
i did my best to read it aloud with a come hither smile :))
theres nothing like a woman who isn`t afraid to use her greatest weapon...that would be the power to love.
please do let me know when you come to karachi next, i think we have a lot to share with each other (meant to be read with a raised eyebrow and a smirk)
shandana
#6 Posted by Zehra on August 8, 1999 8:04:04 pm
re: rehan
very touched..
shall i send more?
you were my first for that kind of impulsive behavior.
rizvi
very touched..
shall i send more?
you were my first for that kind of impulsive behavior.
rizvi
#5 Posted by rehanhasanansar on August 8, 1999 4:52:03 pm
Subcontinental #109 I appreciate the constructive manner in which you accepted my earlier criticism of your article and subsequent post. This is the basis of a true dialogue.
You make an important point when you indicate that a forum like the chowk can be an effective means for dialogue between Pakistani and Indian citizens, and particularly important given the closed borders and general air of hostility betwen India and Pakistan.
As you say, the internet (and in case of this group, the chowk) is indeed a powerful force for bringing ideas and people together in ways that was not possible before. Whether we use it to score some kind of points or as a means to build up understanding, is totally up to us as individuals.
Thanks again for a mature and thoughtful response.
You make an important point when you indicate that a forum like the chowk can be an effective means for dialogue between Pakistani and Indian citizens, and particularly important given the closed borders and general air of hostility betwen India and Pakistan.
As you say, the internet (and in case of this group, the chowk) is indeed a powerful force for bringing ideas and people together in ways that was not possible before. Whether we use it to score some kind of points or as a means to build up understanding, is totally up to us as individuals.
Thanks again for a mature and thoughtful response.
#4 Posted by Zehra on August 8, 1999 4:52:03 pm
very sweet to see this up here..
re: kamran
it is love..isnt it amazing that we can love on so many levels and love so many people in so many different ways. how ya been?
re:all
thanks for the comments..first poem of mine that the chowkwalas are seeing..
re: chowk staff...
once again, the rest of my chowk work doesnt show up under other work by f. zehra rizvi..
rizvi
re: kamran
it is love..isnt it amazing that we can love on so many levels and love so many people in so many different ways. how ya been?
re:all
thanks for the comments..first poem of mine that the chowkwalas are seeing..
re: chowk staff...
once again, the rest of my chowk work doesnt show up under other work by f. zehra rizvi..
rizvi
#3 Posted by temporal on August 8, 1999 11:57:15 am
Zehra O Zehra:
``Our hands interwined,
mind, body and soul.``
This expression is pure ecstasy or subliminal trance or unmitigated infatution.
Even after we stumble upon the doctrinaire truth or swear-by-the-mother`s-grave truth about ``us, me and you`` life goes on unperturbed. Perhaps, that is its beauty, much to our chagrin.
Nice to see you back,
regards,
``Our hands interwined,
mind, body and soul.``
This expression is pure ecstasy or subliminal trance or unmitigated infatution.
Even after we stumble upon the doctrinaire truth or swear-by-the-mother`s-grave truth about ``us, me and you`` life goes on unperturbed. Perhaps, that is its beauty, much to our chagrin.
Nice to see you back,
regards,
#1 Posted by anarayan on August 8, 1999 7:26:52 am
This is tantalizing !
One could easily substitute a mother and her child here - and it could still be either !!
One could easily substitute a mother and her child here - and it could still be either !!
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