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Zehra Rizvi August 7, 1999

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#37 Posted by rinku21here on March 17, 2007 4:35:59 am
Hi ,
The three questions are marvellous, well asked . To me these three questions make your poem beautiful.
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#36 Posted by waseemte on October 1, 2003 11:48:53 am
so..here i am again...
touched.....
well,zehra,ur work do remind me of that feeling sensuality which lawrence describes so well...its complete body n soul condensed in words...seldom have i seen such beautiful words....
and this has to be read ith whteva kinda expression u feel like...since evbuddy here is trying to find similarities with u...n thinking of seeing u once u go to ´their´part of the world,I think I shud also say something....
Next time u do fly over atlantic,have a nice time,n stay out of my way.....
just keep on writing...
cheers
waseem

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#35 Posted by ArtZ on August 31, 1999 12:07:03 pm
Not there anymore ...

Definetely HERE .. :))



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#34 Posted by Zehra on August 31, 1999 2:48:55 am
artz: promises, promises...

you here or still there?

rizvi



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#33 Posted by ArtZ on August 30, 1999 6:18:43 pm
Zehra

as always ... i was touched ...

seeing as how everything u write affects me so much .. what say u dump all em losers u been hangin with .. and the two of us can ... talk about our Venetian friend and his wife :P

ArtZ



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#32 Posted by STATESMAN on August 19, 1999 2:14:23 am
Rehanhasanansari#31



yeh ishq nahin hain aasaan, ek aag ka darya hai, aur doob ke jaana

hai......



Shaam Hote Hi Chiragon Ko Bujha Deta Hoon

Yeh Dil Hi Kaafi Hai Teri Yaad Main Jalne Ke Liye

Yeh Teri Bhi Aankhon Ka Qusur Hai

Main Tanha Gunahgar To Nahi

In Hi Patharon Pe Chal Ke, Aaa Sako To Aao

Hamaare Ghar Ke Raste Koi Kahkashan Nahi

Kafas Udas Hai yaaro, Subah Se Kuch To Kaho

Kahin To Behr-E-Khuda Aaaj Zikr-E-Yaar Chale

Toot Jaate Hain Sabhi Rishte Magar

Dil Se Dil Ka Raabta Apni Jagah

Dil Ko Hai Tujh Se Na Milne Ka Yaqeen

Tujh Se Milne Ki Dua Apni Jagah

Mast Nazron se dekh lenaa tha..

Agar tamanna thi aazmane ki..

Hum to behust youn hi ho jaate..

Kya zaroorat thi muskurane ki..

Chehrey Per Banawat Ka Gussa,

Aankhon Say Chalakta Pyar Bhi Hai,

Is Shauq-E-Ada Ko Kya Kahiye

Inkar Bhi Hai Iqraar Bhi Hai.

Jo Saaz Se Nikli Hai, Woh Sada Sab Ne Suni Hai

Jo Saaz Pe Guzri Hai, Woh Kis Dil Ko Khabar Hai



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#31 Posted by rehanhasanansar on August 18, 1999 6:28:31 am
Zehra,

Angrayzi ki shairi hamain bohat mushkil say samajh aait hia, lakin Aik Geet, is one of the most beautiful piece of poetry I have read in a while…on chowk anyway..
you have a way with words…….and feelings……you say this one is your fav... I like touch more than this one (without the questions)…..no, equally……:and the temptress at b and n….yeah that one too..

“I am and
So I am. That`s how it is.”

existentialism?


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#30 Posted by fairdinkum on August 16, 1999 1:54:01 am
Beauty!



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#29 Posted by Satraangi on August 13, 1999 6:41:25 pm
Zehra: sorry my mistake.



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#28 Posted by Zehra on August 13, 1999 9:28:11 am
satrangi..none.

i was talking about love..not lovers.

my turn..how many grammarians does it take to change a lightbulb?

:)

rizvi.



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#27 Posted by OMAR1974 on August 13, 1999 9:28:11 am
Hormone may play role in relationships

NEW YORK (Reuters Health)--Oxytocin, a hormone that plays an important role in many maternal activities, may also play a role in relationships, according to a report.

The study is one of the first to look at the biological basis for human attachment and bonding, said lead researcher, Dr. Rebecca A. Turner, adjunct professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco.

``In the animal literature, oxytocin has been implicated in maternal behaviors and pair bonding,`` Turner told Reuters Health in an interview. ``We wanted to see if it had a similar function in human bodies.``

In humans, oxytocin levels rise in women during childbirth and nursing, and it has recently been discovered that the hormone is also released during sexual orgasm in both genders.

Twenty-five women participated in the study. As part of it, they were asked to conjure a positive emotion, such as ``love or infatuation.`` The women were also asked to recall a time of loss. In addition, some of the participants were given a 15-minute massage, which has been shown to induce oxytocin release in rats, the investigators explain.

The study examined the correlation between oxytocin levels and the women`s involvement in relationships, their level of anxiety in relationships, and the difficulty they experienced being alone. Personality characteristics were measured by standardized tests, and blood samples were taken to measure oxytocin levels.

The researchers report that massage did cause oxytocin levels to rise, but recalling positive emotions did not. Negative emotions caused oxytocin levels to drop.

The study results also showed that women who had higher levels of the hormone during massage and while remembering positive emotions tended to have fewer problems in interpersonal relationships than those with lower levels. Maintaining oxytocin levels during sadness was correlated with lower anxiety in close relationships.

``It seems that having this hormone available during positive experiences and not being depleted of it during negative experiences, is associated with well-being in relationships,`` said Turner, who is also director of student research at the California School of Professional Psychology, Alameda.

Turner believes these preliminary results are encouraging, and expects to learn more from future studies with more participants.

Source: Psychiatry 1999;62:97-113.

Women`s sense of freedom influences choice of mate

NEW YORK (Reuters Health)--Women`s attraction to power and wealth in their mates is governed by their ability to control their own destiny, according to results of a new cross-cultural study.

The less access to education and reproductive freedom a woman has, the more likely it is that she will want a mate with money and power, report researchers at Knox College in Galesburg, Illinois.

Data for this study came from research conducted in 1990, involving more than 5,000 women and 4,000 men in 37 different cultures spanning six continents. The study participants were asked to rank 18 traits of a mate in order of importance. Traits included wealth, ambition and status - the three traits that researcher Tim Kasser, an assistant professor of psychology, says are central to the debate over gender differences in mate preferences.

Kasser`s team correlated the survey data with information from the United Nations on five variables of female reproductive freedom: maternal mortality rate, percentage of births attended by a trained healthcare professional, percentage of women using contraceptives, domestic violence laws in that country, and the fertility rate.

``The standard finding from almost every country was men wanted good looking, young women, and women wanted ... wealthy, high-status men,`` said Kasser in an interview with Reuters Health. ``The difference was compelling.``

The correlations between the desirability of these characteristics and women`s control of their own destiny varied, however, with some countries - particularly developing nations - having a much stronger correlation between low reproductive rights and resource-acquisition characteristics than others.

Previous studies had suggested that wealth and status were desirable traits in males because these factors were assumed to increase survival of offspring. Kasser`s findings suggest that culture also plays a role in a woman`s choice of mate. Where cultures support women`s self-direction, women are less likely to focus on these characteristics in a mate.

For example, in Scandinavian countries, where the observed differences between sexes on mate preference were the smallest, and educational opportunities and reproductive rights the highest, there was little evidence of a widespread preference for men that can ``provide for`` their families.

``The extent to which an environment supports or impedes a woman`s attempts to direct her own destiny affects what she values in a man,`` Kasser explained in a statement. ``When a female is provided with more opportunities to fend for herself, she will become less concerned with finding a mate who can provide resources for her.``

Source: Psychological Science 1999;10:374-377.



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#26 Posted by ferozk on August 12, 1999 6:44:25 pm
Re: temporal

Loved that All Points Bulletin you posted on Chowk about me!

Pakistan is an option right now, but I have to take care of a few things before I end up there! The reason why I posted that thought was because of my femme d`coeur. I am seriously thinking about it, because that is the only way I can get away from my object d`amour.

Your warnings could be pre-mature, because I still dazed and confused right now and I might meet another heart ache while re-bounding from this one!

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#25 Posted by Satraangi on August 12, 1999 11:14:07 am
``life is too short to only love once but i cant help envying those who do...im grateful im not one

of those cuz i wouldnt be half the woman i am today if it were so.``

how many lovers does one need to have to feel complete ?



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#24 Posted by masad on August 12, 1999 11:14:07 am
What makes them them !



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#23 Posted by STATESMAN on August 12, 1999 11:14:07 am
Hi,Omar Sb.

If you look in the ``rear view`` mirror of your memory in Pakistan,didnt we knew about,Pagla, who acted like Romeo,Majnoon,Farahad or Heer .All this research only confirms ``Pagal kardiya``Also if there is bad conotation for love lorn,In my scool i read a book called Animals,friend & my family the epilogue of it read ``There is a pleasure sure in being mad which no one but the mad men know``

But iam glad you brought the science of SEROTONIN because such striken by cupid does lead to suicide,destructive career for let down parents.& debilitating condition``Gaya kaam se beechara ise Ishq ho gay hai``

However all is not lost.these love couplets are example of how creative juices like the ``roller coaster serotonin level``Van Gogh,others were organically psychiatric,Alcohol & drugs can also do the same.

yeh ishq nahin hain aasaan, ek aag ka darya hai, aur doob ke jaana

hai......



Shaam Hote Hi Chiragon Ko Bujha Deta Hoon

Yeh Dil Hi Kaafi Hai Teri Yaad Main Jalne Ke Liye

Yeh Teri Bhi Aankhon Ka Qusur Hai

Main Tanha Gunahgar To Nahi

In Hi Patharon Pe Chal Ke, Aaa Sako To Aao

Hamaare Ghar Ke Raste Koi Kahkashan Nahi

Kafas Udas Hai yaaro, Subah Se Kuch To Kaho

Kahin To Behr-E-Khuda Aaaj Zikr-E-Yaar Chale

Toot Jaate Hain Sabhi Rishte Magar

Dil Se Dil Ka Raabta Apni Jagah

Dil Ko Hai Tujh Se Na Milne Ka Yaqeen

Tujh Se Milne Ki Dua Apni Jagah

Mast Nazron se dekh lenaa tha..

Agar tamanna thi aazmane ki..

Hum to behust youn hi ho jaate..

Kya zaroorat thi muskurane ki..

Chehrey Per Banawat Ka Gussa,

Aankhon Say Chalakta Pyar Bhi Hai,

Is Shauq-E-Ada Ko Kya Kahiye

Inkar Bhi Hai Iqraar Bhi Hai. --

Tu Is Tarah Se Mere Dil Main Shamil Hai(Note the illusion- hallucination)

Jahan Bhi Jaoon Lagta Hai Teri Mahfil Hai

In Main Moti Hai Ke Pathar, Kise Khabar

Dil To Samundaron Se Bhi Gahra Hai Dosto

Zindagi ek phool hai aur mohabbat us ka shehed

Pyar Ek Dariya Hai, Aur Mehmoob uski sarhad

Raste Main Gire Hain Phool, Uthata Hai Koi Koi

Muhabbat Karte Hain Sabhi, Nibhata Hai Koi Koi

Faasle Jism Ko To Dour Le Jaate Hain

Par Dilon Ke Shahar To Ujarte Nahi

Aankhon Se Aankhon Ka Rishta Tut Jaye Bhi To

Saath Dekhe Hue Khwab To Mit Te nahi

Apne Aagaaz Se Aaaj tak Zindagi

Teri Hi Yaad Main Gum Rahi

Phir Bhi Jaane Kyon Yeh Ihsaas Hai

Jaise Chaahat Meri Kam Rahi

Ek Musafir Ne Raat Pichlay Paha



Humain Mili Us Ki Saza

Jo Khata Hum Kar Na Sakay

Khudaa jab husn deta hai

nazaakat aaa hi jati hai

Kadam chun chun kar rakhti ho

kamar balkha hi jaati hai

Aansoon ko aankhon ki dehleez par laya na karo

Apne dil ki haalat kisi ko bataaya na karo

Log muth-thi bhar namak liye ghooma karte hain

Apne jhakam kisi ko dikhaaya na karo

Yeh hawa ka koi jhonka nahi

Teri yaadon ka ek samundar hai

Mohbbat karna koi zulm nahi,

Agar ki jaye usool se,

Khuda ko bhi muhabbat thi,

Apne rasoul se

Mujhe bhulna bhi chaho to bhula na sako ge

Main to palkon pe thahar jaoon ga, aaansoon ki tarah

Tum badle, jahan badla, badli nazar zamane ki

Yeh Aansu char baqi rah gaye, nishani dil lagane ki

Pyar main jadoo bhi kya maza hai

Lagta hai ke ek khubsurat saza hai

Chaand raaat ko sabhi dekhain, hilaal-e-eid ko

Ik hamara hi naseeba hadiyan turva gaay

Hum the chaand ke nazaare main khoye hue

Bus achanak chand ka abba wahan pe aa gaya

Hui hum se ye nadani,

Kay teri mehfil mein aa baithe

Ho kay zameen ki khakh

Aasman se dil laga baithe



Galat nahi ke zamane main lajawaab hain

maut aai to so lenge.....Ahmed Faraz

Kaun kehta hai mohabbat ki zuban hoti hain...

Yeh haqeeqat to nigahon say bayan hoti hain

Woh na aaye tou satati hai khalish see dil ko...

Woh jo aaye to khalish aur jawan hoti hain

Rooh ko shaad karey dil ko jo purnoor karey...

Har nazaaray mein yeh tanveer kahan hoti hain

Sabt-e-sehlaabay mohabbat ko kahan tak rokay...

Dil mein jo baat ho aankho say ayaan hoti hain

Zindagi ek sulgati see chita hai `Sahir`...

Shola banti hain na yeh bhuj kay dhuaan hoti hain

Kaun kehta hai mohabbat ki zuban hoti hain

Yeh haqeeqat to nikhaon say bayan hoti hain

Aisa lagta hai zindagi....

tum ho Ajnabee, kaise ajnabee tum ho?

Main zameen par ghana andhera hoon...

Aasmaanon-ki chandni tum ho

Ab koi aarzoo nahin baaki.........

justajoo meri aakhri tum ho

Doston-se wafa ki ummeeden!........

Kis zamaane ke aadmi tum ho?

Tu kahin bhi rahe sar pe tere ilzaam to hai

tere haathon ki lakiiron mein mera naam to hai .......

Mujhko tu apnaa bana ya na bana teri Khushi

tu zamaane mein mere naam se badnaam to hai .....

Mere hisse mein koi jaam na aayaa na sahi

teri mehfil mein mere naam koi shaam to hai ....

Dekh kar log mujhe naam tera lete hain

is pe main Khush hoon muhabbat ka ye anjaam to hai .....

Woh sitamagar hi sahi dekh ke usko ``Sabir``

shukr is dil-e-bimaar ko aaraam to hai ...Sabir Jalalabadi

Mausam ne banaya hai nigaahon ko sharaabi

jis phool ko dekhun wahi paimana hua hai ...

Apne haathon se yun chehre ko chhupaate kyon ho,

mujh se sharmaate ho tou saamne aate kyon ho,

Tum kabhi meri tarah kar bhi lo ikraar-e-vafa,

pyaar karte ho tou phir pyaar chupaate kyon ho,

Ashk aankhon mein meri dekh ke rote kyon ho,

dil bhar aataa hai tou phir dil ko dukhaate kyon ho,

In se vaabastaa hai jab mera muqaddar phir tum,

mere shaanon se ye zulf hatate kyon ho,

Roz mar mar ke mujhe jeene ko kahte kyon ho,

milne aate ho to phir laut ke jaate kyon ho ...

Dost ban ban ke mile mujhko mitaane vaale

mai ne dekhe hain kai rang badalane vaale ........

Tumne chup rahkar sitam aur bhi dhaayaa mujh par

tumse acche hain mere haal pe hansne vaale...

Mai tou ikhlaaq ke haathon hi bikaa kartaa hoon

aur honge tere baazaar mein bikne vaale ......

Aakhrii daur pe salaam-e-dil-e-muztar le lo

phir naa lautenge shab-e-hijr pe ronevaale ...Saeed rahi



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#22 Posted by Zehra on August 11, 1999 5:27:34 pm
mohd faisal..

hehe..umm yeah, when i was writing it it didnt seem so hoky but i think the poem would be much better off without the silly questions in between. it was written in a day dream like stance and i was thinking as to how much we are guided by others and how another person can make us feel. i hate to think that another person can make me feel more myself but at times, it is true..

thanks for the criticism...i do think that the poem is better off without that line and others like it..only becuase its being viewed by other people..in my journal, i leave it as it is.

omar: life is too short to only love once but i cant help envying those who do...im grateful im not one of those cuz i wouldnt be half the woman i am today if it were so.

rizvi



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    #37 rinku21here
    #36 waseemte
    #35 ArtZ
    #34 Zehra
    #33 ArtZ
    #32 STATESMAN
    #31 rehanhasanansar
    #30 fairdinkum
    #29 Satraangi
    #28 Zehra
    #27 OMAR1974
    #26 ferozk
    #25 Satraangi
    #24 masad
    #23 STATESMAN
    #22 Zehra
    #21 OMAR1974
    #20 OMAR1974
    #19 Zehra
    #18 lalalala
    #17 lalalala
    #16 Faisal
    #15 temporal
    #14 ferozk
    #13 Zehra
    #12 rehanhasanansar
    #11 kamran9999
    #10 Studebaker
    #9 ferozk
    #8 slink
    #7 soccermom
    #6 Zehra
    #5 rehanhasanansar
    #4 Zehra
    #3 temporal
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