An Open Letter to Gen. Pervaiz Musharaff

MUEEN BATLAY &RAHAL SAEED HAVE WRIITEN A VERY COMPREHSIVE , APPROPRRIATE, AND TO THE POINT ARITICLE REGARDING THE MESS GEN. MUSHARAFF AND HIS

FELLOW CONSPIRATORS HAVE CREATED , EVERY PASSING DAY A VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WILL GRADUALLY

BEGIN TO SEE THE REALITY BEHIND GEN.MUSHARAFS MOVE

WHICH WAS AS THE WRITERS HAVE CORRECTLY POINTED OUT WAS ONLY DESIGNED TO GRAB POWERE.

Sorry for the double post, but I have one more thing to say. The writers of the open letter say that General Musharraf violated the constitution. Well, here`s a pickle for you. Our so-called democratically elected leaders who take a CONSTITUTIONAL OATH OF OFFICE have been violating that very constitution EVERY STEP OF THE WAY! Looting the state treasury, tax evasion, making the poor people of my country suffer day by day, is this CONSTITUTIONAL? Is this BETTER than what General Musharraf has done?

I agree that a military coup is unconstitutional but there is simply no other option! The General himself did not want martial law - in fact, he has only imposed de facto martial law. He has not abrogated the constitution, only suspended it. Democracy WILL return, but only after across the board accountability, the revival of the economy and the banning of corrupt individuals from the political scene. Democracy CANNOT and WILL NOT work in a country with NO EDUCATION and the heavily rooted FEUDAL and BIRADARI systems! We will run ourselves into the ground with politicians like Nawaz and BB. Anyone in the West who opposes this point of view, could you please try to introduce the Pakistani democratic setup in your own country and see if you like it?

MUEEN BATLAY &RAHAL SAEED HAVE WRIITEN A VERY COMPREHSIVE , APPROPRRIATE, AND TO THE POINT ARITICLE REGARDING THE MESS GEN. MUSHARAFF AND HIS

FELLOW CONSPIRATORS HAVE CREATED , EVERY PASSING DAY A VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WILL GRADUALLY

BEGIN TO SEE THE REALITY BEHIND GEN.MUSHARAFS MOVE

WHICH WAS AS THE WRITERS HAVE CORRECTLY POINTED OUT WAS ONLY DESIGNED TO GRAB POWERE.

Sorry for the double post, but I have one more thing to say. The writers of the open letter say that General Musharraf violated the constitution. Well, here`s a pickle for you. Our so-called democratically elected leaders who take a CONSTITUTIONAL OATH OF OFFICE have been violating that very constitution EVERY STEP OF THE WAY! Looting the state treasury, tax evasion, making the poor people of my country suffer day by day, is this CONSTITUTIONAL? Is this BETTER than what General Musharraf has done?

I agree that a military coup is unconstitutional but there is simply no other option! The General himself did not want martial law - in fact, he has only imposed de facto martial law. He has not abrogated the constitution, only suspended it. Democracy WILL return, but only after across the board accountability, the revival of the economy and the banning of corrupt individuals from the political scene. Democracy CANNOT and WILL NOT work in a country with NO EDUCATION and the heavily rooted FEUDAL and BIRADARI systems! We will run ourselves into the ground with politicians like Nawaz and BB. Anyone in the West who opposes this point of view, could you please try to introduce the Pakistani democratic setup in your own country and see if you like it?

MUEEN BATLAY &RAHAL SAEED HAVE WRIITEN A VERY COMPREHSIVE , APPROPRRIATE, AND TO THE POINT ARITICLE REGARDING THE MESS GEN. MUSHARAFF AND HIS

FELLOW CONSPIRATORS HAVE CREATED , EVERY PASSING DAY A VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WILL GRADUALLY

BEGIN TO SEE THE REALITY BEHIND GEN.MUSHARAFS MOVE

WHICH WAS AS THE WRITERS HAVE CORRECTLY POINTED OUT WAS ONLY DESIGNED TO GRAB POWERE.

Sorry for the double post, but I have one more thing to say. The writers of the open letter say that General Musharraf violated the constitution. Well, here`s a pickle for you. Our so-called democratically elected leaders who take a CONSTITUTIONAL OATH OF OFFICE have been violating that very constitution EVERY STEP OF THE WAY! Looting the state treasury, tax evasion, making the poor people of my country suffer day by day, is this CONSTITUTIONAL? Is this BETTER than what General Musharraf has done?

I agree that a military coup is unconstitutional but there is simply no other option! The General himself did not want martial law - in fact, he has only imposed de facto martial law. He has not abrogated the constitution, only suspended it. Democracy WILL return, but only after across the board accountability, the revival of the economy and the banning of corrupt individuals from the political scene. Democracy CANNOT and WILL NOT work in a country with NO EDUCATION and the heavily rooted FEUDAL and BIRADARI systems! We will run ourselves into the ground with politicians like Nawaz and BB. Anyone in the West who opposes this point of view, could you please try to introduce the Pakistani democratic setup in your own country and see if you like it?

I think these two guys, Mueen Batlay and Rahal Saeed are sick in their mind.

They don`t know what is the live hood, Islam, Respect and Identity is. They have not learned and obtained the culture of Pakistan and the knowledge of Islam from their parents or their teachers. They should asked from those who have lost their loved ones in 1947, in 1965, in 1971, in 1990 till NOW.

It’s a shame that they live in this country (USA) and still lacking the bright light and education.

Their IQ is less then 1%, because they cannot make a judgment between Nawaz Sharif and General Pervez Musharraf. To them Dog and a Cow is the same thing.

We have lost our honour, our dignity and our respect as a Pakistani. What our politicians have done for our country in pure democracy is filling their greed’s; they never have respect for law, military and average human being in that country.

Nawaz and Shabaz were the stupid people I ever known. They had a golden opportunity in their hands for last 31 months. They could have build this country and could worked shoulder by shoulder with the Military and with experienced retired Pakistanis to achieve their desire. Their names have gone in the history of Pakistan with dignity and respect. Now they are worst then Dogs.

How can you guys talk about bringing them back and telling General Pervez Musharraf to go back to barracks?

In my opinion why don’t you guys go to Pakistan and help them out. Just don’t sit here and bluff. Act and do something for your love ones Nawaz and Shabaz Sharif.

In Asia Democracy has not been successful in most countries.

There are many recipes of democracies in the World.

- USA version

- UK version

- GDR - earlier German version which was communist

- France

In Asia

- Monarchies

- Syrian Democracy

- Egyptian Democracy

- Iraqi Democracy

- The Turkish Version

- The Iranian Version

The Raza Shah Version

Qumeini version

- Chinese version

All these are very different

The Western Countries had relations with most of these & were getting along well. Oil is the reason for the friendly relations, not democracy.

It appears that the system followed by each country is as per its requirement or circumstances, which is their internal mater. What really mattered is how that regime is useful to the country who wants to have relations. Democracy is not a condition.

The problem arises only when the country is not able to give a valuable product & takes loans. Then the dictation starts. It is blackmailed in different ways. The goal of the leaders is to play to the tunes of the Loan giving countries even if is bad for the nation & masses. There are personal gains for the leaders.

The relationships are motivated by objectives and not based on the system in that country.

In the system which Pakistan had (one may call it democracy) the masses were the rulers & the rulers from the Elite class always returned to power by whatever means possible & amassed wealth and the masses got punished everytime. Is this democracy.

During the military regimes in the past there has been some development but absolutely no development during the politicians reign. Many loans were however taken & God knows what happened to those loans.

As the politicians were mentally & physically corrupt & promoted corruption, the country had a economic breakdown. So a change was required for the better.

When the coup came most of the Pakistani Public welcomed this.

The mechanics of the change may not have pleased many but the results pleased the nation.

The army should get a chance to cleanup the corruption as a democratic setup cannot cleanup the mess due to several reasons. Only a dictator can cleanup.

The opposition parties should have removed the regime by moving in the National Assembly & not in the streets. Now the bloodshed has stopped.

Previously only a garb of democracy was there, there was no real democracy. The energies of the Nation were spent within the nation & lost. The country had gone to dogs.

If the people are happy with the change we should share their happiness and help them build their nation. If we do not want to help, even then it is OK. Let them help themselves.

Whether democracy are no democracy, Asia is in poverty while their raw material & products at low prices help the rich nation to live in luxury.

Economically Pakistan is at the lowest point. Further stoppage of loans may not do much more damage. If the general manages to bring up Pakistan without a helping hand, he will be a hero. If not he cannot make it worse.

This is regarding `open letter` from Mr. Mueen Batlay and Mr. Rahat Saeed.

They say that General should not have acted in the manner he did. But do they nean to say that Mr. Nawaz Sharif acted in a responsible manner when he intrigued against the country`s own Commander In-Chief?

What is democracy? Choosing a bunch of corrupt people with the help of equally corrupt percentage of voters! Just go to the records and find out how many people out of the enlightened and literate class go to the polling booths! I for one have never seen seen a polling booth from inside and I am not the only one. You can find thousands who are in the same category. True- Iam ding a right thing when I am not going to the polling booth. But for whom should I execrcise this right? For the one who is known to be corrupt? Or for the one who is not even enlightened what to taljk of education! The so-called elected MNAs and MPAs have no interest in the national affairs. They are lest bothered about legislating for the betterment ofthe country and the society. They literally take over the responsibilities and duties of the local bodies simply because there is involvement of money in them. Is it the duty of an elecetd MNA to build roads and streets and water wells in his electoral area? Does all this not clearly indicate that the election in the name of democracy is no more than an attempt to allow corrupt mafia to have an access to the oublic funds. You declare today that there will be no funds given to the MNAs in the name of development or there will be no job quatas for employing those who can pay for their appointment etc etc and you will find no one ready to contest an election. The western powers either know all this and are want a country to literally go to dogs for their own bit of cream or they are ignoract of the actual prevelant circumstances in our country. If they want democracy in Pakistan they are certainly not wishing us well. Their intent is more than clear that they are only happy when a country is in chaos. They are only pleased when a country is heading for dismemberment. I am sure my learned friends will not be upset by the change of government in Pakistan.

If western powers want to know the reaction of the masses to this change they should go to the common man in the street and find for themselves that there is satisfaction and happiness among them. An autocraatic ruler is a blessing for a country. In US people go to polls and return suitable people to the Senate and Presidency. The voters are not forced by any one to vote for a particular corrupt person. The people in our country are not even aware of the implications of returning corrupt mafia to the assemblies. They can themselves be lured into voting for a corrupt candidate for small gains. As amatter of fact the big question is - Whenever we return to democracy, should we allow illiterate and ignorant voters (a minority if you look at the percentage figures) to return in power a government that should rule the majority against their will and intent? In my opinion if that time comes, we should think of allowing only literate people to go to the polling booths and also make it compulsory for people like me to ecercise their rught of vote in the larger interest of the country.

NASIR JAVEED

LAHORE/PAKISTAN

This is regarding `open letter` from Mr. Mueen Batlay and Mr. Rahat Saeed.

They say that General should not have acted in the manner he did. But do they nean to say that Mr. Nawaz Sharif acted in a responsible manner when he intrigued against the country`s own Commander In-Chief?

What is democracy? Choosing a bunch of corrupt people with the help of equally corrupt percentage of voters! Just go to the records and find out how many people out of the enlightened and literate class go to the polling booths! I for one have never seen seen a polling booth from inside and I am not the only one. You can find thousands who are in the same category. True- Iam ding a right thing when I am not going to the polling booth. But for whom should I execrcise this right? For the one who is known to be corrupt? Or for the one who is not even enlightened what to taljk of education! The so-called elected MNAs and MPAs have no interest in the national affairs. They are lest bothered about legislating for the betterment ofthe country and the society. They literally take over the responsibilities and duties of the local bodies simply because there is involvement of money in them. Is it the duty of an elecetd MNA to build roads and streets and water wells in his electoral area? Does all this not clearly indicate that the election in the name of democracy is no more than an attempt to allow corrupt mafia to have an access to the oublic funds. You declare today that there will be no funds given to the MNAs in the name of development or there will be no job quatas for employing those who can pay for their appointment etc etc and you will find no one ready to contest an election. The western powers either know all this and are want a country to literally go to dogs for their own bit of cream or they are ignoract of the actual prevelant circumstances in our country. If they want democracy in Pakistan they are certainly not wishing us well. Their intent is more than clear that they are only happy when a country is in chaos. They are only pleased when a country is heading for dismemberment. I am sure my learned friends will not be upset by the change of government in Pakistan.

If western powers want to know the reaction of the masses to this change they should go to the common man in the street and find for themselves that there is satisfaction and happiness among them. An autocraatic ruler is a blessing for a country. In US people go to polls and return suitable people to the Senate and Presidency. The voters are not forced by any one to vote for a particular corrupt person. The people in our country are not even aware of the implications of returning corrupt mafia to the assemblies. They can themselves be lured into voting for a corrupt candidate for small gains. As amatter of fact the big question is - Whenever we return to democracy, should we allow illiterate and ignorant voters (a minority if you look at the percentage figures) to return in power a government that should rule the majority against their will and intent? In my opinion if that time comes, we should think of allowing only literate people to go to the polling booths and also make it compulsory for people like me to ecercise their rught of vote in the larger interest of the country.

NASIR JAVEED

LAHORE/PAKISTAN

We the poeple of Pakistan are fed up of this so called democaracy. I know that a democratice system is best at present times to run a government but unfortunately this system have been usel by the politicians not to serve the nation but to serve themselves primarily.

Of course democratic system has an in built mechanism in which such elements would be eliminatied during a course of period but unfortunately we have been left no times to mend our way. I do not agree with the very idea that General Musharraf action is not justified.This action would loose its meening and purpose if it fails to do the unbaised and fair accountibility across the board. This is the prime concern for the poeple of Pakistan and the single most factor (eradication of corruption ) which could save our nation from moral destruction. Once a nation is strong enough on moral value it has every chance to rise.

Accountability is the single factor which can rebuild the lost confidence among the nation as well as nations confidence towards the democracy which at the moment the moment stand shattered.

If the Consitution of pakistan is still there and the Supreme Court is functioning, then the supreme Court should take action on its own to look into the Gen.`s illegal action. Definitely, the court would declare the state of emergency, army action and all proclamations & orders by the Musharaf & Company as illegal and un-constitutional.

Then the Gen. can file a petition in the higher court about his dismissal from the post of the army chief.

That is the only legal way in my opinion.

In the Pakistan Army tradition, the COAS resigns (is asked to resign) or completes the tenure until retired. There is no provision of a COAS being sacked, especially while enroute over national airspace after having represented the country in a foreign country.

How stupid of ``the democrats``, whose mental mandate never went beyond eating ``gol gappe`` across a cinema in Bhati Gate, Lahore!