Radhika Chandar September 8, 2000
#156 Posted by eslurf on September 4, 2002 5:47:31 am
This regards your statement:
Nomination of three Indian elite class girls for Ms. World titles cannot cover the misery that more than 80% of the women go through every day in India. Think about it.....
Thought about it, damn right !!
The only reason Indian women win miss international beauty titles is not for their brains or their good looks. It is for the same reason That venezuelan and latin american beauties used to win earlier.
bottom line : money and a market ripe for exploitation !!!
I`m talking about international cosmetic and fashionwear brands that entice women in the subcontinent to spend spend spend on beauty, with the promise that ``If the girl next door can do it , so can you !, all you have to do is be more glamourous, buy lipstick please !!``
Nomination of three Indian elite class girls for Ms. World titles cannot cover the misery that more than 80% of the women go through every day in India. Think about it.....
Thought about it, damn right !!
The only reason Indian women win miss international beauty titles is not for their brains or their good looks. It is for the same reason That venezuelan and latin american beauties used to win earlier.
bottom line : money and a market ripe for exploitation !!!
I`m talking about international cosmetic and fashionwear brands that entice women in the subcontinent to spend spend spend on beauty, with the promise that ``If the girl next door can do it , so can you !, all you have to do is be more glamourous, buy lipstick please !!``
#155 Posted by Studebaker on October 2, 2000 1:30:17 am
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#154 Posted by Zahra on September 30, 2000 3:24:03 pm
KRashid:
Sorry, there will be no sequel to the previous post. I will be out exploring nature and karuk paruk of leaves. Poetry will have its time later. On an ending note, I will never touch or even browse through anything that is close to Mir in romantic poetry. I`d rather look into Browning and Frost for absorbing the beauty of words.
Your verses had some influence of Mir. You could have consulted Ghalib for expressing your stance. He does an excellent job in expressing his emotions while merging different influencing factors. Please look into some fine verses from his Deewan.
a) Eeemaaaan Mujhae` Rokae` Hae` Jo Kheenchae` Hae Mujhae` Kufr`
b) Roaaen Gae` Hum Hazaar Baar - Koi Humaen Sutae` Kyou`n
Or
One of my very sweet and potent verse from Punjabi:
a) Heer Heer Kehndaa` Kehndaa` - Apae` Heer Ho Gayaa`
I hope the above will provide thee with enough substance to express your feelings to your better half.
PS: I have a tendency to write Oool Jalool and incomplete sentences when I am in a hurry. I will leave it here :-) [Smile]
Regards
Sorry, there will be no sequel to the previous post. I will be out exploring nature and karuk paruk of leaves. Poetry will have its time later. On an ending note, I will never touch or even browse through anything that is close to Mir in romantic poetry. I`d rather look into Browning and Frost for absorbing the beauty of words.
Your verses had some influence of Mir. You could have consulted Ghalib for expressing your stance. He does an excellent job in expressing his emotions while merging different influencing factors. Please look into some fine verses from his Deewan.
a) Eeemaaaan Mujhae` Rokae` Hae` Jo Kheenchae` Hae Mujhae` Kufr`
b) Roaaen Gae` Hum Hazaar Baar - Koi Humaen Sutae` Kyou`n
Or
One of my very sweet and potent verse from Punjabi:
a) Heer Heer Kehndaa` Kehndaa` - Apae` Heer Ho Gayaa`
I hope the above will provide thee with enough substance to express your feelings to your better half.
PS: I have a tendency to write Oool Jalool and incomplete sentences when I am in a hurry. I will leave it here :-) [Smile]
Regards
#153 Posted by krashid on September 28, 2000 10:56:52 pm
Zahra!
You are mistaken although your advise is good.
I am not sixty but sixtiaised.
The poem is before my marriage.
For aristocratic taste to develop, I needed money and family support as a rotten youth. I have little bit of both now, but it is too late. My better half (Since I can never be better) and three kids tug me (in my thought), so I have to restrict myself to observation and thesis :.)
And however I increase my horizon, it will remain with this world and its people.
Otherwise increasing my horizon in my mind is called euphoria.
Don`t take my comment seriously anyway.
Never trust a stranger is a good advise.
One of the lady in my neighbourhood has gone to Germany through the computer, for a better future. Just a gossip or news.
With ): I was not smiling. It was a far cry.
You are mistaken although your advise is good.
I am not sixty but sixtiaised.
The poem is before my marriage.
For aristocratic taste to develop, I needed money and family support as a rotten youth. I have little bit of both now, but it is too late. My better half (Since I can never be better) and three kids tug me (in my thought), so I have to restrict myself to observation and thesis :.)
And however I increase my horizon, it will remain with this world and its people.
Otherwise increasing my horizon in my mind is called euphoria.
Don`t take my comment seriously anyway.
Never trust a stranger is a good advise.
One of the lady in my neighbourhood has gone to Germany through the computer, for a better future. Just a gossip or news.
With ): I was not smiling. It was a far cry.
#152 Posted by Zahra on September 28, 2000 7:29:09 pm
Kresh0d:
Somehow, I could not resist saying what I will be saying in my following golden thoughts:-)
I do not like to form an opinion about a person by his/her views expressed in black and white, but some folks have a tendency to write what they believe in. When they do that, it is very obvious for an intelligent and insightful reader to see through the other person.
In other words, if these were the verses you`ve used for your wife, then Mrs. Rashid deserves a lot of credit. Standing ovation for her on accepting these pathetic verses -- an insult to romantic poetry. [Afsoa`s]
After reading your choice of verses, I can well understand why you wrote Post 62. Both the verses and your interpretation of relationships complement each other. Hats Off [Sarcasm Intended - I thought of spelling it out to save you from any Kush`t]
Lastly, please consult my next post for who to read and who to quote for romantic poetry. Oh, and do not irritate the ones who have special sanctity for verses by producing Khulee` Dullee`, Bae` Maa`nee and Fazool poetry.
Lest I forget, by worldly savviness, I implied experience and observation [Aren`t you in your 60s? ]If that is true then Sud Haif that you`ve been spending time in observation only than experience + observation.
Also a polite advice:
Please Use :-) for smile/humor/light-hearted point.
Please Use :-( for sad/afsoas-nak/negative point. Your hidden emoticon is not making any sense. Please make a note of it. It is important to be clear in written communication. That is how you will learn to be clearer in your daily dealings and communication and will Ahista Ahista start expanding your horizons.
Hope the above `golden nuggets` will be welcomed!
Regards
Somehow, I could not resist saying what I will be saying in my following golden thoughts:-)
I do not like to form an opinion about a person by his/her views expressed in black and white, but some folks have a tendency to write what they believe in. When they do that, it is very obvious for an intelligent and insightful reader to see through the other person.
In other words, if these were the verses you`ve used for your wife, then Mrs. Rashid deserves a lot of credit. Standing ovation for her on accepting these pathetic verses -- an insult to romantic poetry. [Afsoa`s]
After reading your choice of verses, I can well understand why you wrote Post 62. Both the verses and your interpretation of relationships complement each other. Hats Off [Sarcasm Intended - I thought of spelling it out to save you from any Kush`t]
Lastly, please consult my next post for who to read and who to quote for romantic poetry. Oh, and do not irritate the ones who have special sanctity for verses by producing Khulee` Dullee`, Bae` Maa`nee and Fazool poetry.
Lest I forget, by worldly savviness, I implied experience and observation [Aren`t you in your 60s? ]If that is true then Sud Haif that you`ve been spending time in observation only than experience + observation.
Also a polite advice:
Please Use :-) for smile/humor/light-hearted point.
Please Use :-( for sad/afsoas-nak/negative point. Your hidden emoticon is not making any sense. Please make a note of it. It is important to be clear in written communication. That is how you will learn to be clearer in your daily dealings and communication and will Ahista Ahista start expanding your horizons.
Hope the above `golden nuggets` will be welcomed!
Regards
#151 Posted by krashid on September 28, 2000 9:41:07 am
Zahra #150
If by wordly savvy you mean, observation, then it may be true.
I never had time in my life except studies and job. A routine for poor, disadvantaged, orphan of lower middle class.
Let me tell you my worst poem at the peak of my job activity.
``Yun To Mein Tere Liye Chand Tare To Kia Kahkashan Bhi Laa Sakta Hun``
``Laiken Mujhay Abhi Job Pey Jana Hai``
And:
``Yun To Tere Hont Gulab or Zulfain Nagan Hain``
``Laiken Mere Paas Time Naheen Hai``
Peace.
If by wordly savvy you mean, observation, then it may be true.
I never had time in my life except studies and job. A routine for poor, disadvantaged, orphan of lower middle class.
Let me tell you my worst poem at the peak of my job activity.
``Yun To Mein Tere Liye Chand Tare To Kia Kahkashan Bhi Laa Sakta Hun``
``Laiken Mujhay Abhi Job Pey Jana Hai``
And:
``Yun To Tere Hont Gulab or Zulfain Nagan Hain``
``Laiken Mere Paas Time Naheen Hai``
Peace.
#150 Posted by Zahra on September 27, 2000 9:12:12 pm
Kresh0d:
Well, where were you when the ``Saner People`` expressed their aghast ? A quick glance at your facts driven posts, makes one expect that you`ll at least be worldly savvy.
Haif
Sud Haif
Sud Haif
&
Sud Haif
[Thumbs Down]
Well, where were you when the ``Saner People`` expressed their aghast ? A quick glance at your facts driven posts, makes one expect that you`ll at least be worldly savvy.
Haif
Sud Haif
Sud Haif
&
Sud Haif
[Thumbs Down]
#149 Posted by krashid on September 27, 2000 7:37:19 pm
Zahra #148
Saner people have said for a long time and I think it is true.
``It is difficult to understand women``):
I think it is.):
Saner people have said for a long time and I think it is true.
``It is difficult to understand women``):
I think it is.):
#148 Posted by Zahra on September 26, 2000 11:50:20 pm
Kresh0d:
Didn`t you say that you realized the `recklessness` in your post ? If you did, then you are exonerated. Let`s leave it there.
I commented or I should say `harshly uttered` my disgust towards the thoughts expressed in that post, as they were simply insulting towards both men and women. Your comment was trying to speak for all, either from your observations or experience[I am indifferent]. I do not think you had the right[Or I should say anyone has the right] to do that. Others may have something known as `substance` in their relationships than the typical nonsense.
On an ending note, your example of head scarf was simply out of context. Please do not under estimate the intelligence of `few` readers:-)
What were you trying to prove there ? Respect ?
Somehow, I cannot stand this word in the context you`ve used. It`s a sham!
Please go ahead and heave a sigh of relief!
Later,
Didn`t you say that you realized the `recklessness` in your post ? If you did, then you are exonerated. Let`s leave it there.
I commented or I should say `harshly uttered` my disgust towards the thoughts expressed in that post, as they were simply insulting towards both men and women. Your comment was trying to speak for all, either from your observations or experience[I am indifferent]. I do not think you had the right[Or I should say anyone has the right] to do that. Others may have something known as `substance` in their relationships than the typical nonsense.
On an ending note, your example of head scarf was simply out of context. Please do not under estimate the intelligence of `few` readers:-)
What were you trying to prove there ? Respect ?
Somehow, I cannot stand this word in the context you`ve used. It`s a sham!
Please go ahead and heave a sigh of relief!
Later,
#147 Posted by tahmed321 on September 26, 2000 6:55:19 pm
krashid #140 you write ``So that I can call a black, black, (and not Afro-American) and still respect him for his qualities and not color.``
News Flash! Hot off the Press!! Blacks stopped wanting to be called Afro-Americans about twenty years ago, and black has been the appropriate term ever since. So: you are politically correct even without trying and Martin Luther King, if he was still around, would have given you the Civil Rights Medal.
News Flash! Hot off the Press!! Blacks stopped wanting to be called Afro-Americans about twenty years ago, and black has been the appropriate term ever since. So: you are politically correct even without trying and Martin Luther King, if he was still around, would have given you the Civil Rights Medal.
#146 Posted by anees on September 26, 2000 9:50:18 am
Radhika Chandar
I am happy that you read Islamic books, but very disappointing over your interpretations regarding ``Right to batter wife``, husband may use the stick to beat his wife. It is wrong to take one sentence from a paragraph, please analyze the complete parapgraph under which condition above sentence applicable.
For your reference and information ``Right to batter wife`` is applicable only
1) When wife is not obeying her husband to all legal rights on her.
2) Having or started illegal affairs with other men.
Under this circumstance firstly husband should say to his wife politely. If she obeys and stops illegal affair and starts a normal life then its O.K.
If she still continue her habits then husband has a right to beat her. At last husband can divorce and get rid of such woman.
I am happy that you read Islamic books, but very disappointing over your interpretations regarding ``Right to batter wife``, husband may use the stick to beat his wife. It is wrong to take one sentence from a paragraph, please analyze the complete parapgraph under which condition above sentence applicable.
For your reference and information ``Right to batter wife`` is applicable only
1) When wife is not obeying her husband to all legal rights on her.
2) Having or started illegal affairs with other men.
Under this circumstance firstly husband should say to his wife politely. If she obeys and stops illegal affair and starts a normal life then its O.K.
If she still continue her habits then husband has a right to beat her. At last husband can divorce and get rid of such woman.
#145 Posted by krashid on September 26, 2000 12:52:27 am
Zahra!
Do you think, I am alive.
A person writing such a post must be beyond this world ):
Think some other punishment ):
Do you think, I am alive.
A person writing such a post must be beyond this world ):
Think some other punishment ):
#144 Posted by Zahra on September 25, 2000 11:40:26 pm
Correction:
The Karyaa Karam word has not been used in the appropriate context, therefore the sentence sounds strange. I hope the ones who know the meaning can gather the premise.
The Karyaa Karam word has not been used in the appropriate context, therefore the sentence sounds strange. I hope the ones who know the meaning can gather the premise.
#143 Posted by Zahra on September 25, 2000 10:39:02 pm
I received a poem from a friend, few months back and was about to delete it to clear my email box. Then I thought, the Kuryaa` Karam (I think I remember the word`s meaning) of this article`s thought should be given its due. After all it is going to rest in peace in the archives of Chowk. So here is something to read:
#142 Posted by Zahra on September 24, 2000 10:02:15 pm
KResh0d:
Thanks for spelling out the number of that post. Personally, I think anyone with such views should be buried alive.
That`s it!
Thanks for spelling out the number of that post. Personally, I think anyone with such views should be buried alive.
That`s it!
#141 Posted by krashid on September 24, 2000 11:55:05 am
Zahra!
This post is in succession to my last post.
I re-read that post #62.
And I think I was not outspoken but reckless.
Thanks for correcting me.
This post is in succession to my last post.
I re-read that post #62.
And I think I was not outspoken but reckless.
Thanks for correcting me.
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