For a few words of love

Scout # 61

OK I take it back; I let you have your 15 minutes of greatness (I had mine).
:)

Reg: Reply#32

``I personally also got into NYU and University of Rochester but chose Rutgers because Rutgers is a better buy.``

wow! what presitgious institutions we are talking about here(NYU and..ahem..Univ. of Rochester!!)

;-)

YLH is unintentionally funny, almost like a badly scripted flick.

finally an explanation for all the twisted and concocted logic, in his arguments.

Urstruly #60, ``but is this Chowk or Melrose Place where every character sleeps with others husband, wife, girlfriend, and boy friend, with all possible permutations......``

Khuda na karay! I`m offended. Take it back I say!

Excuse me;

but is this Chowk or Melrose Place where every character sleeps with others husband, wife, girlfriend, and boy friend, with all possible permutations and in the end everybody apologizes to each other and the episode ends with everybody saying ``let`s just be friends``.

Chowksters! Please keep the hate alive, it is necessary to keep decipline and sanity in discussion.

Chowk Staff:

Any control on posts Murda Baad.

I think the intended objectives (as per your post) can still be achieved by giving more time. I already filter the posts that I read. I use scroll bar while reading YLH, sadhana, Mohajir and Rsaxena. It saves time.

Fairdinkum:

Please stop talking to people about me like I am a lost puppy :)

Slink:

I almost wetted my pants.

Zahid Sahib: While I agree with your reasoning (and indeed went through something similar myself many years ago when I decided to migrate), you seem to be justifying to yourself more than anyone else the reason you are leaving your homeland. No need to justify, you are under no obligation to spend your entire life in the land in which you were born.

You will never forget Pakistan I know (you can take a man out of his country, but you cannot take the country out of the man). Your children (if still infants, or unborn) will probably surprise you (as mine did) by considering ``their flag`` to mean a flag other than the crescent and star you no doubt grew up to love.

And you will no doubt return to visit Pakistan. I hope you will never one obligation that you have, as all of us refugees (or escapees) from the third world have: That obligation is to do what you can to alleviate the conditions that caused you to migrate to begin with. This may mean contributing funds (e.g. a to a charity), it may mean contributing your time.

The brain drain will then, in the long run, become a brain gain for Pakistan. And one day, you may decide to come back (hasnt happened yet, but it will one day).

ylh #55,

apology accepted. i apologize too for saying mean things.

and i apologize to lassie and indian women for one or two sentences on another board.

group hug?

(vomit)

Fairdinkhum

Sorry for the digression, but please write more about Buddhism Taoism and Confucianism. I am taking a winter session class on Eastern Religions.... Others please jump in.

Sorry if this discussion digresses in the future.

Yasser Hamdani

Slink

I hope you dont love me...

Yasser

Scout

I apologize if you think I twisted your words. Maybe you are right.

Yasser

Well as long as you are reprimanded I am happy.

:)

ylh #49,

Please don`t misquote me. However reasonable your arguments and thoughts may be, I find it hard to digest when my words are twisted.

I have nothing more to say to you for the time being. You may interact with me, when you present the truth, not something I didn`t say.

Otherwise, Good bye and good riddance.

I apologize to Saima and Chowk staff for these digressions.

Re: ylh

I think the Chowk Staff`s post was directed at you as much as at anyone else. What are you chattering about for?

Thankyou Zahra,

Yasser Hamdani

Yasser:

Good Posts!

PS: A very happy new year to you.

Take Care,

Scout,

If I choose to defend what I believe in, you automatically assume that its hatred? Have you not the decency to see for yourself who started what?

In any event, I have an ideological problem with the Indian Political elite, you on the other branded all Indian women as whores. Despite all my

``hatred`` I shall not judge people because that is God`s work. My interest in the debate is political, and my attempt is to put an end to a systematic attempt by the Indians and certain people from our side to undo the very basis of Pakistan.

Pakistan is under continuous onslaught from inside and out. Outside it is continuous malicious Indian propaganda, and inside it is the insidious influence of the fundamentalist section of our society.

People are being misled, sometimes in the name of

ideological wishy washiness and other times in the name of religion. You talk about hate, I think it is a crime against humanity that we mislead people by appealing to their emotions. Why do I emphasize so much on Jinnah and why do I talk about Ataturk?

Because in Jinnah and Ataturk we have two leaders nay the only two leaders who were not trapped and lured into false pretences. Jinnah could have stuck with his title, Ambassador of Hindu Muslim Unity, but he did what he saw was necessary, and after the creation of Pakistan he was not lured in by mirage of an ``Islamic`` state and made that proclamation of secularism.

At Chowk my attempt has been to present an extreme swing of the pendulum for it seems that for the most part chowkies, Indians and those who are have images of intellectual greatness have some how come to the conclusion that the only way they will be accepted here is constant criticism of Pakistan.

I hope Chowk Staff reads this because they too are at occasions deluded.

-Yasser Latif Hamdani

Chowk Staff

Finally a statement indicative of pragmatism, and the will to look closely into the matter. Yes Chowk has a long way to go to immediately single out troublemakers and make them unwelcome. Right now, not the instigators, but the instigated are being victimized.

Thanks for making that subtle distinction. Hope the troublemakers learn.

Your Biggest Fan :)

YLH