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Iran`s advice to India and Pakistan.

http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=4/8/01&Cat=4&Num=030

Tehran Times

Vajpayee`s Visit to Iran Will Bring Peace, Stability to Region, Analysts Believe

By Irfan Parviz

TEHRAN Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee will make a historic visit to Iran on April 10 at the invitation of President Seyed Mohammad Khatami.

Political pundits believe that Vajpayee`s visit will pave the way for better Tehran-New Delhi relations in all known areas of cooperation.

Iran`s prominent journalist Hassan Rassouli voiced his optimism about the outcome of Vajpayee`s visit, saying, ``It (the visit) will herald a new era in Indo-Iranian ties in political, economic and social areas.``

The TEHRAN TIMES Editorial Board Coordinator, Rassouli, added, ``Mr. Vajpayee`s visit will cultivate a healthy political and economic atmosphere in the region based on mutual understanding.``

Talking to the TEHRAN TIMES, an analyst Ms. Tahera Sultan said, ``Iran and India have an ancient history of bilateral relations in political, social, cultural and economic areas.

``There is no doubt that Iran and India, through bilateral or multilateral cooperation, can bring peace, stability and prosperity to the entire region,`` she stressed.

Referring to a gas pipeline project that is expected to transfer Iranian gas to India via Pakistan, she noted, ``It will not only provide the cheapest and cleanest source of energy to the regional countries, but it will also serve as a major source of national income.``

She brushed aside the doubt cast over the future of the pipeline by some who describe it as risky, and who argue that Pakistan and India are archenemies.

Like Ms. Sultan, Rassouli also believes that the gas pipeline will help to bring India and Pakistan, the so-called ``archenemies``, closer together.

``I don`t believe that India and Pakistan are archenemies, as both have a lot to exchange in terms of economy, politics and culture, but not bullets,`` Rassouli noted.

``If both India and Pakistan prioritize their national interests, the sky will be the limit to their cooperation and progress,`` he pointed out.

However, contrary to the Iranian analysts` belief, a Pakistani Urdu daily * * * * Nawa-e Waqt * * * * voiced its concern over growing relations between Iran and India.

The daily, in its editorial, said that the defense agreement between Iran and Pakistan`s enemy, India, is a major source of concern for all the Muslims. The daily asked the country`s Foreign Ministry to take the necessary action in this respect.

A high level Indian business delegation is to accompany the indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee`s visit to Iran which starts from April 10.

Secretary general of the Federation of indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FICCI) Dr. Amit Mitra told IRNA today that india is looking to expand its relations with Iran beyond the oil and gas sector.

The FICCI business delegation to Iran will comprise industrialists from various sectors like heavy engineering, construction, power, cement, telecommunication and information technology (IT), entertainment and film, healthcare and tobacco, automobile, chemicals and pharmaceuticals, biotechnology, chartered accountants and company law, ports and infrastructure, Mitra said.

Scout #113

``Whatever is afflicting Pakistan and India is well deserved with people like ali, harimau, and rsaxena running around.

``

Hey you misssed the BOSS OF ALL, Mahamullah Urstruly. Add my name to this list too if you so desire.

Scoutapa # 113

``Chowkwallas,

It was good while it lasted. Whatever is afflicting Pakistan and India is well deserved with people like ali, harimau, and rsaxena running around.

I`ve had it with bigotry.

Khuda Hafiz``

Nononoo0000oo000oo0000ooooooo....like if you go away whooz going to put that annoying Rsaxena in his place everytime he gets high on himself? or give horrible mean self righteous men like harimau the verbal spankings they deserve...who`ll speak up for Pakistan in the face of 480 interactors who`ve made it their zindagee ka mission to demoralise us by quoting selected incidents that we really have no defence against....its difficult to compose a reply when one knows in another 25 mins there`ll be Indies all over the board taking turns at laughing, byching and patronizingly telling you what a miserable nation yours is beacause some morons attacked a newspaperoffice&because the army keeps sending the elected leaders back to their cribs ..the anger and helplessness of it all often makes me refrain from replying at all..it takes spunk aison kae moon lagna specially since many of the evils quoted are as true as is true..

pliss istay

Many wonder why pakistan is a nightmare. Police was found stealing electricity from a govt owned power supplier by the military. From dawn of today

MULTAN, April 7: Policemen were found stealing electricity at a police post in Gujrat Town by a joint team of army and Mepco staff. The team, headed by a sub-divisional officer of Mepco, disconnected the power supply to the police post.

``SDO Qazi Muhammad Akhtar told Dawn here on Saturday that police had taken direct supply from the main line. They did not apply for getting the power connection for the police post. Mepco subordinate staff had asked the policemen to desist from such unlawful act who threatened them with dire consequence. SP Col Farman Ali (retired) said that stern action will be taken against the responsible persons.``

RE: Scout`s khuda hafiz

Whatever ``crap`` chowk editors want to publish is their prerogative and if you want to boycott Chowk like you boycotted NYT, well thats your right.... but your gila-shikwa comes across as pretty childish.

Anyways, I regret if any of my ``crap`` offended you, that was never the intention, and I don`t recall ever attacking your personally.

You have put me in the same category as haramiu which I find very offensive... feel free to write a note of apology to sherali_rajput@yahoo.com Khuda Hafiz. :-)

Scout #113

Don`t worry.

I am on same boat.

The need of hour is amity between Pakistan and India.

Whether Harimau cleans the board with dumb Pakistani`s back does not matter now.

So what?

Universe is bigger than world.

And world is bigger than Chowk.

At least in my case.

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Syed Ahmed #: 108

These are all nice warm and fuzzy feelings. Forget it! my man that the two sides will reach a peaceful situation. Indian / Pakistani educated elite are mo$Fuc$#r decedents of Maharajas and Sultans. They have no concept of saving their a$$es. They will happily choke on skyrocketing-taxes; corrupt bureaucrats and raping & murderous Generals. Rajas took all the money from the masses and spent on either Fu@k!ng themselves or their neighbors.

Now the army generals of the two countries are doing the same. We all walk to the house of Generals and get the ``desired`` satisfaction.

The pseudo intellectuals will continue blabbering about their favorite ones and trashing anyone who opposes them. They are ready to jump on RSS, Talibans, Pundits and Mullahs. You said it right in your post:

``The crème` of the bourgeois, deeply engendered with western sensibilities, seeks to enforce its liberal agenda with the same fascist overtones, that the conservatives practice in the mother country.``

So dream on my friend and let Harimau and Urstruly trash and whip every chowki`s behind.

Re: sigalph

Sorry for the dealy in replying to your post!


Bush saying that he regreted the Chinese pilot`s death was good sign that he was understanding the diplomacy of ``saving face``, which is the hallmark of Chinese foreign affairs.


Sig, the current tete a tete is nothing more than Freudian attempt to determine who is the ``big boy`` in Asia. Hence, both sides need to carefully reconsider the consequenes and decide upon their actions accordingly. Bush`s foreign policy team is too ``experince heavy`` and though it may sound impressive, in realistic terms it designed for gridlock, because all the actors have their own opinions and turf wars to fight. Rice, Powell, Rumsfield and Chenny (sounds like a law firm) are still in the process of mapping out their influence in the White House.


My friend remember, foreign policy works best when determination, strenght and clarity is mixed with a pragmatic sense of compromise. There are no principles in international relations despite what Woodrow Wilson`s best intentions. In this sense, I was, and still am, a great admirer of G. W. Bush`s father`s foreign policy!


Ciao!

Harimau # 110

``If the Kashmiris want independence (from India as well as Pakistan, as Umairr is fond of saying), what do these bearded creeps want with the Pak government?``

These bearded creeps are equal opportunity pimps. They made prostitutes out of Bharati masses just for the pleasure of Indian Generals. Now they want to provide Pakistani Generals an opportunity to fu$%k Pakistan. What`s wrong with that? You think only Indian Generals can rape their nation? Pakistani Generals have the same desires.

Kapeesh? Or some Indian general is having fun with you or your folks still living in the Indian hell. Off course it is all in the name of national security.

Disclaimer: Indian Generals (and their Pakistani counter parts) do not rape or plunder their masses. They strongly believe in importing [or transferring] European technology, and exporting their black money to European Banks.

Gurv say kaho hum Bharati hain.

We all need to take pride in true and pure Bharati culture and not in some westernized, corrupt INDIAN culture.

Syed Ahmed #: 108

These are all nice warm and fuzzy feelings. Forget it! my man that the two sides will reach a peaceful situation. Indian / Pakistani educated elite are mo%

Chowk Staff,

So you decided to still not post my other interact to harimau while repeatedly posting his and ali`s crap.

Thanks for the hypocricy.

Chowkwallas,

It was good while it lasted. Whatever is afflicting Pakistan and India is well deserved with people like ali, harimau, and rsaxena running around.

I`ve had it with bigotry.

Khuda Hafiz

Re: Reply #: 108

Syed Ahmed,

That was a very balanced analysis. What you said about Pakistan can be said of India too. So let us all get down from our high horses and look at what we really are and not bother about what Americans think about us. I sometimes admire the Chinese. Look at them. They are now telling the Americans to apologise about the airspace violation and have not budged one inch from their earlier statement. That needs a lot of guts. They are behaving as a true world power. Hard to imagine what India`s response would be in similar circumstances.

To all folks from either side of the divide,this is what i have to say:

Let us stop accusing each other and become voices of reason and do our bit to usher in stability and peace in the subcontinent. West, for all its vices, has found a way to coexist peacefully. Enemies of yesterday like France,U.K and Germany are part of a European Union. Canada exists peacefully with USA and both have prospered. What is wrong with our cursed lands? Religions are meant to bring people together and not make them into enemies. We have become victims of our own prejudices and mindset. If we have to progress and prosper,we need to shed our prejudices and change our mindset which always compels us to defend something that we know in our heart is indefensible.

sridhar

Re Syed Ahmad #108

Excellent!

Ref OMAR1974 #: 107

[India offered today to hold peace talks with Kashmiri separatists living abroad as well as those in the disputed Himalayan region. The offer was immediately rebuffed by the All Parties Hurriyat Conference, a key umbrella organization of political and religious groups in Kashmir, which demanded that the Pakistani government should be part of a tripartite dialogue.]

So, why don`t you ask if the APHC has the Kashmiris` interests at heart or is it taking instructions from the Pak Foreign Ministry and the ISI?

If the Kashmiris want independence (from India as well as Pakistan, as Umairr is fond of saying), what do these bearded creeps want with the Pak government?

Re: RSaxena, #106

``harimau is wiping the board clean with Pakistani behinds.``

You mean that he is cleaning the Pakistani behinds (otherwise your sentence does not make any sense). Pakistanis sure can use him for that purpose! They are tired of doing it themselves and would not mind using his services.

Getting back to the relevant topic......

The American media is a commercial enterprise and as such it has to tailor its commentary to the tastes and preferences of its audience and more importantly to its revenue generating advertisers. You can hardly expect the NY Times to be sympathetic to the Palestinian cause wheras Israeli deaths are mourned on the front page.
( Even the liberal chowk has its own biases..it hardly treads on controversial political issues - after all `` self-prservation`` instinct needs to be there, Although we have seen several anti-religion articles, with the exception of a current article, one hardly finds a balanced approach on religion)



Secondly the US Media is fairly mature when it comes to reporting US interests - such as the sanitized precision bombings in Nicaragua and Iraq.

Then there are the facts - Pakistan is a very intolerant society - Govt sponsored pogoms have
caused genocide in E. Pakistan, military campaigns in Baluchistan , Sind and Karachi.
BY western Standards, it is a primitive life form that cannabalizes its own future. (a careful look
of the posters on this forum alone, where the creme` of the Pakistani bourgouis, some deeply engendered with western sensibilities, seeks to enforce its liberal agenda with the same fascist overtones, that the conservatives practice in the mother country.)

Thirdly Pakistan is a country where pleuralistic thought is non existent, and that extends to many of the posters on this forum.

Then there is the Islamic bogey fanned by the defense establishments of the West in search of a
visible new enemy - that justifies MY TAXPAYER dollars going into playtoys and secretive budgets.

Of course they are ably assisted by ex-PrimeMinisters and other political leaders of
Pakistan, who fan the same rhetoric on the lecture circuit in order to secure support
for their own agendas. Foreign ministers extolling the use of the nuclear option, like Gauhar ayub, and his equally
moronic successor Sardar Assef....





In addition, Pakistanis are known for their fiery rhetoric, - and no tangible results, The Mullah`s extoll the vices of western commercialism and the then jump on the asylum bandwagon to get to the US ....

Also Pakistan is a nation with NO COLLECTIVE MORALITY - that rings true of all of us here,
When the ILO imposed sanctions on Pakistan for
not enforcing child labor laws, - the govt and the media jumped on the India`s problems with CHILD labor... You MORONS foreign countries are more concerned about your women and children than you are .........

Finally why do Pakistanis care so much about INdia, grow up and do your own thing. The comparision between INdia and Pakistan is a ridiculous one, particularly in this article..

Pakistan is NOT ``AMERICA`s worst nightmare``
- US concerns are limited to the nuclear trigger
in the hands of jackasses and rightly so....

As of now Pakistan is A ``Pakistani`s`` worst nightmare - and that what most pakistanis should be concerned about.... NOT a perception of a foreign entity but the reality on GROUND ZERO.


Its time for Pakistanis to move on beyond the INdian bogey .... and the same goes for the Indian miscreants - go figure out your own problems ( which are substantial) rather than ranting and raving like lunatics....