Nafisa Haji August 4, 2001
#34 Posted by scout on August 7, 2001 2:02:09 am
Shah #32,
Who cares about Dilip and Saira.....didn`t she like him anyway.
This is about older Pakistani men getting hitched to way younger women through arranged marriages.
I`ve seen it happen.
I had to call one guy ``Uncle`` when he came by to set him straight. The look on his face when he heard word was a Kodak moment. Poor thing.
Who cares about Dilip and Saira.....didn`t she like him anyway.
This is about older Pakistani men getting hitched to way younger women through arranged marriages.
I`ve seen it happen.
I had to call one guy ``Uncle`` when he came by to set him straight. The look on his face when he heard word was a Kodak moment. Poor thing.
#33 Posted by rehanrizvi on August 7, 2001 2:02:09 am
From what I know about women, girls in their 20`s like ``mature, handsome and wealthy men.`` Whether its because of Hollywood, Bollywood or Lollywood, or literature from any country you name, the culture of young women being attracted to older men is much more common then the writer and interactors suggest. Whether it`s the right thing is another matter.
About sex and the city of Karachi, well, I had heard of it but didn`t believe it myself until I met my good friend K,who has just came from there and told me his own personal exploits.
My take on this: We can...
1. Continue with the status quo and do nothing while young people, and not just north of the Clifton bridge, risk the STD`s as well as moral and religious backlash. Not to mention a life of sin and shame.
2. Restart marriage at a younger age. Not practical these days.
3. Revive the old custom of Temporary marriage that existed during the time of Prophet and which, though rejected by Sunni scholars, is still a part of Shia theology. Practiced rarely in the Sub-continent Shias, it is more common in Iranian and Arab Shias.
4. Refuse to acknowledge that this is an Islamic country and these kids are Muslims who shouldn`t be doing this. Only because life of Western-inspired materialism, instant-gratification and hedonism is a much appealing alternative to a set of rules that promote virtue and civility. (Talibanesque Islam is not what I mean here, though, as it`s a home-bred tribal custom-inspired barbarism.)
5. Criticize anyone who criticizes this kind of life-style because we consider ourselves enlightened and liberated from the stone-age customs of a dead religion. Life is here and now, enjoy while it lasts. There`s no tommorrow and no after-life. We all go to heaven if it even exists.
But you must choose for yourself.
R
About sex and the city of Karachi, well, I had heard of it but didn`t believe it myself until I met my good friend K,who has just came from there and told me his own personal exploits.
My take on this: We can...
1. Continue with the status quo and do nothing while young people, and not just north of the Clifton bridge, risk the STD`s as well as moral and religious backlash. Not to mention a life of sin and shame.
2. Restart marriage at a younger age. Not practical these days.
3. Revive the old custom of Temporary marriage that existed during the time of Prophet and which, though rejected by Sunni scholars, is still a part of Shia theology. Practiced rarely in the Sub-continent Shias, it is more common in Iranian and Arab Shias.
4. Refuse to acknowledge that this is an Islamic country and these kids are Muslims who shouldn`t be doing this. Only because life of Western-inspired materialism, instant-gratification and hedonism is a much appealing alternative to a set of rules that promote virtue and civility. (Talibanesque Islam is not what I mean here, though, as it`s a home-bred tribal custom-inspired barbarism.)
5. Criticize anyone who criticizes this kind of life-style because we consider ourselves enlightened and liberated from the stone-age customs of a dead religion. Life is here and now, enjoy while it lasts. There`s no tommorrow and no after-life. We all go to heaven if it even exists.
But you must choose for yourself.
R
#32 Posted by Shah on August 7, 2001 12:33:39 am
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#31 Posted by Shah on August 7, 2001 12:33:39 am
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#30 Posted by tahmed321 on August 6, 2001 11:00:47 pm
AAmir #26 Truer words were never spoken on chowk.
#29 Posted by Shah on August 6, 2001 11:00:47 pm
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#28 Posted by AMJAD on August 6, 2001 11:00:47 pm
this story is very naughty. it is clearly the result of a solid dinyat schooling.
#27 Posted by mansoorfaridi on August 6, 2001 11:00:47 pm
Sad But True!
Welcome to N. America. Nice read.
Keep it up.
MF
Welcome to N. America. Nice read.
Keep it up.
MF
#26 Posted by Purple on August 6, 2001 8:25:35 pm
and then it all came crashing down -
haunting story -
hope to see you again
-p
ps: to random interactors - its not about hormones and sex - its what repression and ignorance and the inability to listen to what we hear - does to the kids in societies like ours. a vicious self-perpetuating system.
haunting story -
hope to see you again
-p
ps: to random interactors - its not about hormones and sex - its what repression and ignorance and the inability to listen to what we hear - does to the kids in societies like ours. a vicious self-perpetuating system.
#25 Posted by AAmir on August 6, 2001 8:25:35 pm
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#23 Posted by perfidy on August 6, 2001 8:25:35 pm
what`s happening with chowk these days? where has all the talent gone?
#22 Posted by moidalam on August 6, 2001 8:25:35 pm
Syed Ahmed:
``As I have reiterated before there should be an adolescent section on the chowk - where this could be appreciated.......
Overt sexuality does little to hold a story together.... ``
so u want chowk.com give u a quality ``family time`` like PTV???
Where did u get the impression that ``overtly sexuality`` is restricted to children?
``As I have reiterated before there should be an adolescent section on the chowk - where this could be appreciated.......
Overt sexuality does little to hold a story together.... ``
so u want chowk.com give u a quality ``family time`` like PTV???
Where did u get the impression that ``overtly sexuality`` is restricted to children?
#21 Posted by narain on August 6, 2001 8:25:35 pm
What a twist in the tale!
Great story, and good writing Ms Haji!
-narain
Great story, and good writing Ms Haji!
-narain
#20 Posted by id on August 6, 2001 8:25:35 pm
Bijli and others :
The face of the upper class has changed a lot since you might have been there (idont know your age). Sex is a taboo, but there is a lot of sleeping around going on. Not quite like the way it was described in the stories, but yes boys and girls are getting laid as we speak.
Blame the western media for this trash culture (it copies the white trash that you watch on tv and enjoy). Cut off your cable tv`s and get net nannies in your computers. Thats what I would do if I was a parent.
The face of the upper class has changed a lot since you might have been there (idont know your age). Sex is a taboo, but there is a lot of sleeping around going on. Not quite like the way it was described in the stories, but yes boys and girls are getting laid as we speak.
Blame the western media for this trash culture (it copies the white trash that you watch on tv and enjoy). Cut off your cable tv`s and get net nannies in your computers. Thats what I would do if I was a parent.
#19 Posted by soysauce on August 6, 2001 8:25:35 pm
Pretty formulaic - you reap what you sow, etc. Even the conversations, descriptions, etc. are very trite. If the writer is very young and trying out fiction writing, there is a lot of improvement. Be original, don`t filch ideas, snippets of conversations from other sources. I can`t imagine anyone in pakistan using the colloquialism that these characters do.
However, I must admit that almost all boys who come here to study have probably been excited by the prospect of bedding a lot of these ``easy`` women. Don`t know what it`s like for girls. I`m surprized that you could get under the skin of boys in this respect.
However, I must admit that almost all boys who come here to study have probably been excited by the prospect of bedding a lot of these ``easy`` women. Don`t know what it`s like for girls. I`m surprized that you could get under the skin of boys in this respect.
#18 Posted by scout on August 6, 2001 8:25:35 pm
wait a second, the guy was 37 and the girl 21?
Majid`s a sleazebag....
Majid`s a sleazebag....
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