A J Nabi August 25, 2001
#100 Posted by sadna on August 31, 2001 1:38:30 pm
As there are many posters here who undoubtedly have good collections and wonderful memories(and good taste :)), may I ask whether anyone has information on how to get hold of more of DV Paluskar`s bhajans?
HMV India has been marketing a some of them in 2 cassettes, but I remember I have heard many more, notably `Hari-hari chuDiyaa`n`
The same with Juthika Roy with Hindi geets and bhajans. Whats on the market currently are just a few wellknown ones. The ones I am looking for are `boli re madhuban me muraliyaa`, another is `paschim se poorab aake megh gaye ghoom ke`
Thanks.
PS: If anyone from AIR archives or HMV India is here, please guys blow off the dust and PUBLISH!
HMV India has been marketing a some of them in 2 cassettes, but I remember I have heard many more, notably `Hari-hari chuDiyaa`n`
The same with Juthika Roy with Hindi geets and bhajans. Whats on the market currently are just a few wellknown ones. The ones I am looking for are `boli re madhuban me muraliyaa`, another is `paschim se poorab aake megh gaye ghoom ke`
Thanks.
PS: If anyone from AIR archives or HMV India is here, please guys blow off the dust and PUBLISH!
#99 Posted by Essensaur on August 31, 2001 12:57:01 pm
Re: dost-mittar #88
‘ The next filmi qawaali that became popular was sung by a real qawaal in the film Azaad. It was ``Marna bhi mohabbat mein kisi kaam na aaya``. ‘
Glad you thought of this particular qawaali. The ‘real qawaal’ you refer to was none other than Chitalkar. He also used the pseudonym “C. Ramchandra”, as a music director. Apart from the qawaali, Chitlkar also provided the male voice in the famous romantic duet with Lata in Azaad - “Kitna haseeN hai mausam”. He sang several other songs in C. Ramchandra movies, and also acted the middle aged male lead in a regional whodunnit, based on a famous (fictional, Bombay based) detective character of the fifties. As to C. Ramchandra movies, who can forget Anarkali, every single song of which is unforgettable..
Regards,
‘ The next filmi qawaali that became popular was sung by a real qawaal in the film Azaad. It was ``Marna bhi mohabbat mein kisi kaam na aaya``. ‘
Glad you thought of this particular qawaali. The ‘real qawaal’ you refer to was none other than Chitalkar. He also used the pseudonym “C. Ramchandra”, as a music director. Apart from the qawaali, Chitlkar also provided the male voice in the famous romantic duet with Lata in Azaad - “Kitna haseeN hai mausam”. He sang several other songs in C. Ramchandra movies, and also acted the middle aged male lead in a regional whodunnit, based on a famous (fictional, Bombay based) detective character of the fifties. As to C. Ramchandra movies, who can forget Anarkali, every single song of which is unforgettable..
Regards,
#98 Posted by Romair on August 31, 2001 11:19:39 am
Ten best songs related to cities, that I have heard (I am not too upto date on the various Indian songs relating to cities):
Mera sohna shehar kasur (Noor Jehan/Kasur)
An evening in Paris (Rafi/Paris)
Yeh hay Bambai (Rafi/Mumbai)
Bambai Nagaria (Lucky Ali/Mumbai)
Balo Battian (Ataullah Niazi/various punjab cities)
Lhore Lhore aay (Tariq Tafu/Lahore)
Rasha Pekhawarta (Mehjabeen Qazalbash/Peshawar)
Sanwali saloni si mehbooba (Vital Signs/Multan)
Kuriyan Lahore Diyan (Abrar/Lahore)
Mundiya Sialkotia (Noor Jehan/Sialkot)
Mera sohna shehar kasur (Noor Jehan/Kasur)
An evening in Paris (Rafi/Paris)
Yeh hay Bambai (Rafi/Mumbai)
Bambai Nagaria (Lucky Ali/Mumbai)
Balo Battian (Ataullah Niazi/various punjab cities)
Lhore Lhore aay (Tariq Tafu/Lahore)
Rasha Pekhawarta (Mehjabeen Qazalbash/Peshawar)
Sanwali saloni si mehbooba (Vital Signs/Multan)
Kuriyan Lahore Diyan (Abrar/Lahore)
Mundiya Sialkotia (Noor Jehan/Sialkot)
#97 Posted by anNy on August 31, 2001 11:19:39 am
i agree with all those who say junoon`s over rated..their first few albums were good.really good..but now theyre churning out fazool third rate music anyone can..theres nothing new in their last album...but *sigh * `neend atee nahin` still breaks my heart into itty bitty little pieces..so what if its pink bubble gum music at its peak..?:)..billo kikzazz..even daler mehendi`s but his egos way too inflated...
aisha your list was nice...i love that song too..`mujhae tumn nazar sae`..and how come no on mentioned that song with shabana azmi `tumn itna jo muskura rahae ho`? maybe i missed it since i just barely skimmed the replies...and as for he/she who put up an angraezi list...u forgot `anNys song` by jonn denver? have u no taste chiiiiiild?????????
aisha your list was nice...i love that song too..`mujhae tumn nazar sae`..and how come no on mentioned that song with shabana azmi `tumn itna jo muskura rahae ho`? maybe i missed it since i just barely skimmed the replies...and as for he/she who put up an angraezi list...u forgot `anNys song` by jonn denver? have u no taste chiiiiiild?????????
#96 Posted by AAmir on August 31, 2001 11:19:39 am
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#95 Posted by SameerJB on August 31, 2001 11:19:39 am
temporal: Thanks for mentioning S. B. John, Surraiya Multanikar and Iqbal Bano. The songs you mentioned were indeed superb. I need to buy CDs of Pakistani oldies. Another good one, I remember, was Salim Raza. I jhave made note of Rekha Surya and would look for her CDs once they come out.
Sarwar: ``Deewana banana hey to deewana bana dey`` was one of Begum Akhtar`s best rendition, particularly when she repeats ``ae dekhney walo mujhey hans hans key na dekho`` and her voice cracks repeatedly in this line.
Soysauce: I am still a child of classical music. My interest in music has definitely shifted to Punjabi with age, in USA. I had no interest in Punjabi music, culture or Punjabiat while growing up in Pakistan-a product of indoctrination throgh education and media blitz in Pakistan. My interest in classical music is three years old only and I am trying to learn through reading about classical music and different ragas. My interest in movie songs and Junoon shunoon is probably over for good.
dost-mittar: Thanks for pointing out my errors in my previous post. I have been writing thes posts based on memory only and some of the songs I have not listened to in more than ten years. Yes, it is Zaban and not dua or dawa; it is Nerendar Chanchal and not Chanchal Singh. [Pakistan/ India maiN, kuch bhee na zubaN se kaam liya but USA is different. At Chowk, aahaiN bhi bhareeN, Shikwey bhi kiye aur khobb zubaaN se kaam liya-two years at chowk and counting]
Truth: Could you write more about your experience at Rehmat NFAK concert in NY. I think he NFAK`s nephew and grromed to be gaddi nasheen of NFAK.
Sarwar: ``Deewana banana hey to deewana bana dey`` was one of Begum Akhtar`s best rendition, particularly when she repeats ``ae dekhney walo mujhey hans hans key na dekho`` and her voice cracks repeatedly in this line.
Soysauce: I am still a child of classical music. My interest in music has definitely shifted to Punjabi with age, in USA. I had no interest in Punjabi music, culture or Punjabiat while growing up in Pakistan-a product of indoctrination throgh education and media blitz in Pakistan. My interest in classical music is three years old only and I am trying to learn through reading about classical music and different ragas. My interest in movie songs and Junoon shunoon is probably over for good.
dost-mittar: Thanks for pointing out my errors in my previous post. I have been writing thes posts based on memory only and some of the songs I have not listened to in more than ten years. Yes, it is Zaban and not dua or dawa; it is Nerendar Chanchal and not Chanchal Singh. [Pakistan/ India maiN, kuch bhee na zubaN se kaam liya but USA is different. At Chowk, aahaiN bhi bhareeN, Shikwey bhi kiye aur khobb zubaaN se kaam liya-two years at chowk and counting]
Truth: Could you write more about your experience at Rehmat NFAK concert in NY. I think he NFAK`s nephew and grromed to be gaddi nasheen of NFAK.
#94 Posted by ylh on August 31, 2001 2:14:20 am
Sarwari 73?
I just found your list to be totally amazing... it is so amazingly similar to mine (the real one not the one I put up here) ... :) lol
-YLH
I just found your list to be totally amazing... it is so amazingly similar to mine (the real one not the one I put up here) ... :) lol
-YLH
#93 Posted by mannyd on August 31, 2001 12:00:43 am
Ref Dulla Bhatti #68:
Thanks for the post. It is indeed a beautiful poem. I wonder if you have a book that you looked up in or just have a great memory. Anyway you are a scholar and a gentleman.
Thanks for the post. It is indeed a beautiful poem. I wonder if you have a book that you looked up in or just have a great memory. Anyway you are a scholar and a gentleman.
#92 Posted by Aisha_Sarwari on August 31, 2001 12:00:43 am
ManeshG,
Thank you for the info. I absolutely love the voice and the lyrics.
Aisha :)
Kabuliwala, that is a movie?
Thank you for the info. I absolutely love the voice and the lyrics.
Aisha :)
Kabuliwala, that is a movie?
#91 Posted by mannyd on August 31, 2001 12:00:43 am
Ref Dulla Bhatti #68:
Thanks for the post. It is indeed a beautiful poem. I wonder if you have a book that you looked up in or just have a great memory. Anyway you are a scholar and a gentleman.
Thanks for the post. It is indeed a beautiful poem. I wonder if you have a book that you looked up in or just have a great memory. Anyway you are a scholar and a gentleman.
#88 Posted by Romair on August 30, 2001 7:33:48 pm
SameerJB: Thanks for the info on A.K. Niazi. Seems like he has lived quite a life. Interestingly, it is very difficult to find any real audio sites on the Internet with his songs. I haven`t seen him much on television either. This shows that the educated Pakistani community hasn`t really picked up on him. On the other hand, the bus drivers and truck drivers seem to love him. It is also interesting that he includes the name of his tiny village in his own name. I heard him sing, ``balo battian`` and have been hooked ever since.
#87 Posted by sarwar on August 30, 2001 7:33:48 pm
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#86 Posted by ylh on August 30, 2001 7:33:48 pm
The true top 10 list of South Asian Songs:
1) Saqinama : Junoon
2) Jazba : Junoon
3) Maula : Vital Signs
4) Azaadi: Junoon
5) Yehi Zameen: Vital Signs
6) tu bhee Pakistan hai: Shehki
7) Sohni Dharti Allah Rakhay
8) Is Parcham Kay Sai talay: Nayaara Nur
9) Pyar Bina: Junoon
10)Khudi: Junoon
-YLH
1) Saqinama : Junoon
2) Jazba : Junoon
3) Maula : Vital Signs
4) Azaadi: Junoon
5) Yehi Zameen: Vital Signs
6) tu bhee Pakistan hai: Shehki
7) Sohni Dharti Allah Rakhay
8) Is Parcham Kay Sai talay: Nayaara Nur
9) Pyar Bina: Junoon
10)Khudi: Junoon
-YLH
#85 Posted by ylh on August 30, 2001 7:33:48 pm
Ajnabi: ooooooooooh I am an expatriate, ooooh my rear orifice hurts sooooooooooo much, and I am sooooooooo nostalgic... ooooooooooh peace out dude.
#84 Posted by soysauce on August 30, 2001 7:33:48 pm
Sameer,
I find myself getting more and more into classical music as i get older. Even tho i cannot tell one rAgA from another, i find the music soothing and transcendent. As a corollary, i have been finding (starting in my late 20s) filmi music to be increasingly banal and boring. Again, i put this down to the fact of my getting older. What`s been your experience?
dostmittar,
it`s the voice, my man! The japanese women were taught to speak a certain way (high voice, trailing sentences) that was considered feminine. Similarly, in the subcontinent (and most of asia) feminine singing voice is high. Not something that i find attractive.
On a related note, i hate the western violin with its high pitch. I like what we have done with a borrowed instrument.
I find myself getting more and more into classical music as i get older. Even tho i cannot tell one rAgA from another, i find the music soothing and transcendent. As a corollary, i have been finding (starting in my late 20s) filmi music to be increasingly banal and boring. Again, i put this down to the fact of my getting older. What`s been your experience?
dostmittar,
it`s the voice, my man! The japanese women were taught to speak a certain way (high voice, trailing sentences) that was considered feminine. Similarly, in the subcontinent (and most of asia) feminine singing voice is high. Not something that i find attractive.
On a related note, i hate the western violin with its high pitch. I like what we have done with a borrowed instrument.
#83 Posted by Truth on August 30, 2001 7:33:48 pm
i heard rahmat nusrat fateh ali khan a few days ago in nyc. awesome.
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