Ali A Minai October 11, 2001
#711 Posted by ZafarA on October 25, 2001 9:34:31 am
Reply Saminashah. RSaxena # 745
“Careful Saxi, Zafar`s waiting in the wings to have his way with your romantic life...I hear he`s planned a blonde wearing a burqa who hides behind shrubbery reading mystery novels...in fact, Zafar Bhai, that scenario sounds quite interesting...will you give it a go?”
The way I see it, the (bottle) blonde in the burqa will RAGE onto centerstage ONLY when the priest (ok, nondenomenational celebrant) asks if anybody objects to this marriage taking place (they do that, right?)
Saxena will hyperventilate and pass out in horror. (And who can blame, hain?) If the tree-hugger is Dutch she will take a mature and balanced view of events, if she’s Swedish she’ll weep softly for months in the garden refusing to eat anything but boiled fish and potatoes without salt. If she’s Finnish she’ll…well, I don’t need to spell that out, do I?
The Blonde Burqa Home Wrecker will, in the meantime…
(Think: opening scene of Fassbinder’s The Marriage of Maria Braun.)
“As for brownies in Netherland coffeeshops, I have absolutely no idea of what you mean!”
Look Saxena, be careful, haan, nahin tho brownie khaathe khaathe na malum kaise tree hugger se dosthi karne lagoge….beer goggles ko bhool jana…Lajwanti se joda ho jaye tho imagine the in-laws you will have living with you (Fatimah, Shah, AAmir, Studebaker, Deepika - who knows who else lurks there?)
Zafar
“Careful Saxi, Zafar`s waiting in the wings to have his way with your romantic life...I hear he`s planned a blonde wearing a burqa who hides behind shrubbery reading mystery novels...in fact, Zafar Bhai, that scenario sounds quite interesting...will you give it a go?”
The way I see it, the (bottle) blonde in the burqa will RAGE onto centerstage ONLY when the priest (ok, nondenomenational celebrant) asks if anybody objects to this marriage taking place (they do that, right?)
Saxena will hyperventilate and pass out in horror. (And who can blame, hain?) If the tree-hugger is Dutch she will take a mature and balanced view of events, if she’s Swedish she’ll weep softly for months in the garden refusing to eat anything but boiled fish and potatoes without salt. If she’s Finnish she’ll…well, I don’t need to spell that out, do I?
The Blonde Burqa Home Wrecker will, in the meantime…
(Think: opening scene of Fassbinder’s The Marriage of Maria Braun.)
“As for brownies in Netherland coffeeshops, I have absolutely no idea of what you mean!”
Look Saxena, be careful, haan, nahin tho brownie khaathe khaathe na malum kaise tree hugger se dosthi karne lagoge….beer goggles ko bhool jana…Lajwanti se joda ho jaye tho imagine the in-laws you will have living with you (Fatimah, Shah, AAmir, Studebaker, Deepika - who knows who else lurks there?)
Zafar
#710 Posted by tahmed321 on October 25, 2001 1:18:11 am
Bapu #739 ``NOT ONE COLOURED family profiled.NOT EVEN THE POST 9-11 BACKLASH victims.``
Not true. Unless you read the Kabul Post or the Mazar-i-Sharif Times. Or possibly the Scientific Taliban, and are so engrossed in the advancements in physics by the Nobel Prize winning Mullah Einsteinullah and the results of the lifelong study of Buddha`s Life by Mullah IdolBreakerUllah (using a grant from the Taliban Ministry for the Preservation of Archaeological Sites).
Not true. Unless you read the Kabul Post or the Mazar-i-Sharif Times. Or possibly the Scientific Taliban, and are so engrossed in the advancements in physics by the Nobel Prize winning Mullah Einsteinullah and the results of the lifelong study of Buddha`s Life by Mullah IdolBreakerUllah (using a grant from the Taliban Ministry for the Preservation of Archaeological Sites).
#709 Posted by rsaxena on October 25, 2001 1:18:11 am
Re: nehru
real vooman are fery good...but sho is real pfathers...did you find your`s?
real vooman are fery good...but sho is real pfathers...did you find your`s?
#708 Posted by saminashah on October 25, 2001 1:18:11 am
rsax
re: My Costume Designing Choices
Careful Saxi, Zafar`s waiting in the wings to have his way with your romantic life...I hear he`s planned a blonde wearing a burqa who hides behind shrubbery reading mystery novels...in fact, Zafar Bhai, that scenario sounds quite interesting...will you give it a go?
As for brownies in Netherland coffeeshops, I have absolutely no idea of what you mean!
regards
re: My Costume Designing Choices
Careful Saxi, Zafar`s waiting in the wings to have his way with your romantic life...I hear he`s planned a blonde wearing a burqa who hides behind shrubbery reading mystery novels...in fact, Zafar Bhai, that scenario sounds quite interesting...will you give it a go?
As for brownies in Netherland coffeeshops, I have absolutely no idea of what you mean!
regards
#707 Posted by saminashah on October 25, 2001 1:18:11 am
Stuka,
re: message to Lajwanti/Bapu/etc,
I consider ``uppity`` to be one of the highest forms of praise...
regards
re: message to Lajwanti/Bapu/etc,
I consider ``uppity`` to be one of the highest forms of praise...
regards
#706 Posted by saminashah on October 25, 2001 1:18:11 am
Harish,
I don`t understand why you choose to purposefully misunderstand the posts I and some other Chowkies send. Is it because our ideas don`t fit into a preconceived stereotype? I agree that there are many countries in which despotic leaders subject the citizenry to inexcusable repression. And yes, a shamefully large number of them have been or are Muslim. Iraq, Indonesia, Turkey, and Syria immediately come to mind. I am not even including the countries that discriminate against minorities, women and dissidents. Having said that yet again, what`s your point?
My question to you: can you name all the countries throughout the world in which the US has overthrown or attempted to overthrow governments that the US did not like? Could we start with all the socialist muslim leaders who have been assasinated? And, if you could leave the fireworks at home and just answer the questions, I`d appreciate it.
regards
I don`t understand why you choose to purposefully misunderstand the posts I and some other Chowkies send. Is it because our ideas don`t fit into a preconceived stereotype? I agree that there are many countries in which despotic leaders subject the citizenry to inexcusable repression. And yes, a shamefully large number of them have been or are Muslim. Iraq, Indonesia, Turkey, and Syria immediately come to mind. I am not even including the countries that discriminate against minorities, women and dissidents. Having said that yet again, what`s your point?
My question to you: can you name all the countries throughout the world in which the US has overthrown or attempted to overthrow governments that the US did not like? Could we start with all the socialist muslim leaders who have been assasinated? And, if you could leave the fireworks at home and just answer the questions, I`d appreciate it.
regards
#705 Posted by nehru on October 24, 2001 6:39:24 pm
Saxinajee,
(The only tree huggers I plan to meet are living in Scandanavia right now.)
Good phor u . yu weri impotent man, i ded not now the tres therr are nice. Rr tey beter tan reel vooman ?
(The only tree huggers I plan to meet are living in Scandanavia right now.)
Good phor u . yu weri impotent man, i ded not now the tres therr are nice. Rr tey beter tan reel vooman ?
#704 Posted by Banjaara on October 24, 2001 6:39:24 pm
Akhlesh # 726
First there was Eklavya,then came narain and now
Akhlesh,what is this ? Chowk or CharBagh??
Regards.
First there was Eklavya,then came narain and now
Akhlesh,what is this ? Chowk or CharBagh??
Regards.
#703 Posted by stuka on October 24, 2001 6:39:24 pm
Dear Bapu/AAmir/Bhardwaj:
I read your wonderful reply to SaminaSha. Women who become too uppity deserve to be taught a lesson and you did absolutely the right thing.
I have been very impressed by your thoughts and definitely empathize with you. However, I am very frustrated by the limited interaction we have on Chowk boards. I was wondering if you could be kind enough to publish your real name, address and phone number so I could talk to you to my hearts content and possibly meet with you.
If you do not want to publish your own details on Chowk, I understand, but what about an email adderss? My sole purpose is to learn from you the correct world view. A learned person like you should have pride in his beliefs, and the confidence to reveal his true self. You could be the next Salahuddin, leading the Islamic world to the zenith of glory.
I hope you appreciate my ernestness, and reveal yourself to those who appreciate you.
Regards
Stuka
I read your wonderful reply to SaminaSha. Women who become too uppity deserve to be taught a lesson and you did absolutely the right thing.
I have been very impressed by your thoughts and definitely empathize with you. However, I am very frustrated by the limited interaction we have on Chowk boards. I was wondering if you could be kind enough to publish your real name, address and phone number so I could talk to you to my hearts content and possibly meet with you.
If you do not want to publish your own details on Chowk, I understand, but what about an email adderss? My sole purpose is to learn from you the correct world view. A learned person like you should have pride in his beliefs, and the confidence to reveal his true self. You could be the next Salahuddin, leading the Islamic world to the zenith of glory.
I hope you appreciate my ernestness, and reveal yourself to those who appreciate you.
Regards
Stuka
#702 Posted by saminashah on October 24, 2001 6:39:24 pm
Lajwanti
Arre bahain, your hijab is tied on too tight-you cannot get much needed H2O to your brain!The mehndi you use has seeped into your tiny brain! Put on your glasses, sister! Drink a glass of sherbet yaar! Listen to some Raffi!Who says I am muslim in shep`s clothing? If you want to pray rather than natch with heeng smelling desis, go to the masjid and leave the rest of us alone.Go to Kashmir and have a protest with your hijabis and jihadis all day! Don`t force everyone to follow your ideas!
Arre bahain, your hijab is tied on too tight-you cannot get much needed H2O to your brain!The mehndi you use has seeped into your tiny brain! Put on your glasses, sister! Drink a glass of sherbet yaar! Listen to some Raffi!Who says I am muslim in shep`s clothing? If you want to pray rather than natch with heeng smelling desis, go to the masjid and leave the rest of us alone.Go to Kashmir and have a protest with your hijabis and jihadis all day! Don`t force everyone to follow your ideas!
#701 Posted by rsaxena on October 24, 2001 6:39:24 pm
Re: binifer
``see now saxena, I`m sure everyone is very aware of your poweress and skills with scandanavian babes.
Would you please stop bringing it up everywhere now?``
On the one hand you claim to hate my guts, on the other you make rather pathetic (and boring) attempts inviting yourself into my business? Which is it?
And you didn`t answer my question...did your hubby-to-be escape at the last minute?
``see now saxena, I`m sure everyone is very aware of your poweress and skills with scandanavian babes.
Would you please stop bringing it up everywhere now?``
On the one hand you claim to hate my guts, on the other you make rather pathetic (and boring) attempts inviting yourself into my business? Which is it?
And you didn`t answer my question...did your hubby-to-be escape at the last minute?
#700 Posted by semipreciousme on October 24, 2001 6:39:24 pm
nasah
“Edhi is one Pakistani the whole subcontinent can be proud of -- and emulate.”
….if you’re interested, tehmina durrani has written a really good book on him called, “ a mirror to the blind”….
dost-mittar
``Zahra, Semipreciousme:
Both of you are welcome to come to my lawn and rake all those fallen leaves that have littered my lawn. Me, I am too lazy and waiting for the first storm to blow them away to the neihbour`s lawn; Old desi habits die hard.:-)”
…..go ahead and rake them….and then jump in…you’ll be hooked….i promise…: )
“Edhi is one Pakistani the whole subcontinent can be proud of -- and emulate.”
….if you’re interested, tehmina durrani has written a really good book on him called, “ a mirror to the blind”….
dost-mittar
``Zahra, Semipreciousme:
Both of you are welcome to come to my lawn and rake all those fallen leaves that have littered my lawn. Me, I am too lazy and waiting for the first storm to blow them away to the neihbour`s lawn; Old desi habits die hard.:-)”
…..go ahead and rake them….and then jump in…you’ll be hooked….i promise…: )
#699 Posted by sadna on October 24, 2001 10:58:45 am
At least one area in which the US/West thinks itself `different` from say AIDS-struck Africa is in patents for medicines.
The Canadian government is likely to ask a Canadian company to break the patent of Cipro held by the company Bayer and begin to manufacture it in sufficient quantities to PREPARE for possible attacks of Anthrax. There is no existing epidemic but noone wants to take chances.
The US Congress may be asked to suspend the Bayer patent on Cipro, unless Bayer agrees to reduce its price. Again, this measure is considered justified, just to PREPARE for large-scale anthrax attacks. These attacks are not a given, but noone wants to take the chance of beign unprepared.
The principles of protecting intellectual property, profit motive for future inventions and the `free-market` price of drugs under WTO? need to be rigorously upheld when there are millions of Africans currently DYING from HIV/AIDS, and whole countries being devastated by huge death tolls, but these same principles can be jettisoned when Canadian and US citizens FEEL unsafe.
The Canadian government is likely to ask a Canadian company to break the patent of Cipro held by the company Bayer and begin to manufacture it in sufficient quantities to PREPARE for possible attacks of Anthrax. There is no existing epidemic but noone wants to take chances.
The US Congress may be asked to suspend the Bayer patent on Cipro, unless Bayer agrees to reduce its price. Again, this measure is considered justified, just to PREPARE for large-scale anthrax attacks. These attacks are not a given, but noone wants to take the chance of beign unprepared.
The principles of protecting intellectual property, profit motive for future inventions and the `free-market` price of drugs under WTO? need to be rigorously upheld when there are millions of Africans currently DYING from HIV/AIDS, and whole countries being devastated by huge death tolls, but these same principles can be jettisoned when Canadian and US citizens FEEL unsafe.
#698 Posted by tahmed321 on October 24, 2001 2:21:35 am
Bapu #731 Responding to an evil act by pointing to another evil act is no response. And the acts you point out are ridiculous in any case, as follows:
Bhopal: That was an accident. There is a qualitative difference between an accident and deliberate killing. One is a civil case, the other is a criminal case. Furthermore, the US corporation was sued in India and later in the US. OBL refuses to present himself to court.
``Blowing up of Kanishka in 84 causung 300- 400 dead over the atlantic`` I assume you mean the Air India flight. That was treated as a criminal case, and I think the Sikh extremists behind it were arrested in Canada. And what is your point: because other murders have taken place in the past, one cannot bring a murderer to court today.
``Blowing of Civilian Iranian airlines by us air force`` Again, there is a difference between an accident and a criminal case.
Bhopal: That was an accident. There is a qualitative difference between an accident and deliberate killing. One is a civil case, the other is a criminal case. Furthermore, the US corporation was sued in India and later in the US. OBL refuses to present himself to court.
``Blowing up of Kanishka in 84 causung 300- 400 dead over the atlantic`` I assume you mean the Air India flight. That was treated as a criminal case, and I think the Sikh extremists behind it were arrested in Canada. And what is your point: because other murders have taken place in the past, one cannot bring a murderer to court today.
``Blowing of Civilian Iranian airlines by us air force`` Again, there is a difference between an accident and a criminal case.
#697 Posted by Lajwanti on October 24, 2001 2:21:35 am
Reply Saminashah
You Shaddiup, bogus MuslIM WOLF. IN SHEP CLOTHING!!!!!!
WHAT MY ,STYKLE HAS. TO DO WITH TELLING THE TURTH ABOUT ISLAM/PAKISTAN AND HEEG ;;SMELLING HINDIANS??? Hain
You are like pagan roman emporer Niro/Nehru fiddling and having party while rome GOESW UP THE CHIMNY??
Think about important ,things for change, not just how .cool you are or what colour your nails and hair, MADAME! You are like Shabna Azmi – bneing RUIDE TO IMAM JUST BECAUSE EHE @SUPPRTS MUSLIMS AND NOT NAACHNI HINDIAN FILMY CULTURE LIKE YOU!!!!5%$!!@
Try and learn somethihng beforer trying to correct your betters - ;like Quran, Hadis, proper Islamic bhaviours. Are you clever just because you can do spellche k..? Or just having;freetimje to; do this, not like people who have bjovbs and are busuy?
`US spreading anthrax to cover up Sept 11 defeat’
All evidence indicate that the US is source of the anthrax, said Ath-Thawra newspaper of Iraq
Baghdad, Oct 23 (AFP): Iraq accused the US administration today of spreading the anthrax scare to transform its ``defeat`` in the September 11 terror attacks into a victory in countering alleged bio-terrorism.
``It is a joke ... All evidence and details prove that the United States is the source of the anthrax,`` said Ath-Thawra newspaper, mouthpiece of the ruling Baath party.
``This anthrax has been prepared in American laboratories and the suspect packages which spread the scare have been sent from inside the United States, and this incriminates the American authorities,`` it said.
Ath-Thawra
The United States ``wants to show that its security services have succeeded in uncovering an alleged biological attack in order to make everyone forget its defeat and inability to detect the September 11 attacks on time or to find concrete proof about the perpetrators.``
The anthrax scare has deepened around the world following the deaths of two US postal workers yesterday. Last week, a former UN weapons inspector in Iraq, Scott Ritter, said to blame Baghdad was irresponsible, in reference to US media reports linking Iraq with the anthrax scare.
President Saddam Hussein, Washington`s arch-foe, is the only Arab leader not to have condemned the terror attacks on the United States.
China denies of Taliban contacts
China rejected reports it paid millions to bin Laden to get unexploded US-made cruise missiles launched at his camps
Beijing, Oct 23 (PTI): China today vehemently denied maintaining contacts with the Taliban regime in Afghanistan and rejected reports that it paid millions of dollars to terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden to get unexploded US-made cruise missiles launched at his camps in 1998.
``At the moment, China has no relations of any kind with the Taliban,`` Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Sun Yuxi told reporters when asked to comment on claims by Taliban commander-in-chief Jalaluddin Haqqani, who said the militia was ``in touch`` with China, which was assisting them in the war against the US.
``I have not read about the report you just mentioned,`` Sun said while restating China`s position against terrorism, which he described as ``consistent``.
In the past, China has acknowledged having contacts with all factions, including the Taliban in Afghanistan. However, it says that since the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, China has not maintained any contact with the Taliban.
According to reports from Islamabad, Haqqani, who was in the Pakistani capital to hold talks with officials, told reporters that ``China is still assisting Taliban in the war against the United States``. He also said the Afghan militia ``continued to be in touch with Beijing``.
The Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman also denied a report that China paid bin Laden several million dollars for access to unexploded US cruise missiles following an attack on his bases three years ago.
``The allegation that China received cruise missiles is totally groundless,`` Sun asserted.
``Since the outbreak of the September 11 incident, we have found that there are people who have been doing all they can to distort China`s image. These are out of ulterior motives. These attempts will not succeed,`` Sun said.
`The Guardian` of London had reported that an alleged senior agent of bin Laden`s Al Qaeda network in Europe told an associate, in a secretly taped conversation, that Chinese businessmen had paid 10 million dollars for access to the missiles.
Following the 1998 US attack, carried out in reprisal for the bombings of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, reports suggested that China had acquired two unexploded Tomahawk missiles.
The daily said a 32-year-old Libyan terrorist suspect met the head of Al Qaeda`s Italian cell, Sami ben Khemais, in a Milan flat and told him of China`s involvement in the procurement of missiles.
It said unknown to the two men, the flat had been bugged by Italian anti-terrorist officers.
You Shaddiup, bogus MuslIM WOLF. IN SHEP CLOTHING!!!!!!
WHAT MY ,STYKLE HAS. TO DO WITH TELLING THE TURTH ABOUT ISLAM/PAKISTAN AND HEEG ;;SMELLING HINDIANS??? Hain
You are like pagan roman emporer Niro/Nehru fiddling and having party while rome GOESW UP THE CHIMNY??
Think about important ,things for change, not just how .cool you are or what colour your nails and hair, MADAME! You are like Shabna Azmi – bneing RUIDE TO IMAM JUST BECAUSE EHE @SUPPRTS MUSLIMS AND NOT NAACHNI HINDIAN FILMY CULTURE LIKE YOU!!!!5%$!!@
Try and learn somethihng beforer trying to correct your betters - ;like Quran, Hadis, proper Islamic bhaviours. Are you clever just because you can do spellche k..? Or just having;freetimje to; do this, not like people who have bjovbs and are busuy?
`US spreading anthrax to cover up Sept 11 defeat’
All evidence indicate that the US is source of the anthrax, said Ath-Thawra newspaper of Iraq
Baghdad, Oct 23 (AFP): Iraq accused the US administration today of spreading the anthrax scare to transform its ``defeat`` in the September 11 terror attacks into a victory in countering alleged bio-terrorism.
``It is a joke ... All evidence and details prove that the United States is the source of the anthrax,`` said Ath-Thawra newspaper, mouthpiece of the ruling Baath party.
``This anthrax has been prepared in American laboratories and the suspect packages which spread the scare have been sent from inside the United States, and this incriminates the American authorities,`` it said.
Ath-Thawra
The United States ``wants to show that its security services have succeeded in uncovering an alleged biological attack in order to make everyone forget its defeat and inability to detect the September 11 attacks on time or to find concrete proof about the perpetrators.``
The anthrax scare has deepened around the world following the deaths of two US postal workers yesterday. Last week, a former UN weapons inspector in Iraq, Scott Ritter, said to blame Baghdad was irresponsible, in reference to US media reports linking Iraq with the anthrax scare.
President Saddam Hussein, Washington`s arch-foe, is the only Arab leader not to have condemned the terror attacks on the United States.
China denies of Taliban contacts
China rejected reports it paid millions to bin Laden to get unexploded US-made cruise missiles launched at his camps
Beijing, Oct 23 (PTI): China today vehemently denied maintaining contacts with the Taliban regime in Afghanistan and rejected reports that it paid millions of dollars to terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden to get unexploded US-made cruise missiles launched at his camps in 1998.
``At the moment, China has no relations of any kind with the Taliban,`` Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Sun Yuxi told reporters when asked to comment on claims by Taliban commander-in-chief Jalaluddin Haqqani, who said the militia was ``in touch`` with China, which was assisting them in the war against the US.
``I have not read about the report you just mentioned,`` Sun said while restating China`s position against terrorism, which he described as ``consistent``.
In the past, China has acknowledged having contacts with all factions, including the Taliban in Afghanistan. However, it says that since the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, China has not maintained any contact with the Taliban.
According to reports from Islamabad, Haqqani, who was in the Pakistani capital to hold talks with officials, told reporters that ``China is still assisting Taliban in the war against the United States``. He also said the Afghan militia ``continued to be in touch with Beijing``.
The Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman also denied a report that China paid bin Laden several million dollars for access to unexploded US cruise missiles following an attack on his bases three years ago.
``The allegation that China received cruise missiles is totally groundless,`` Sun asserted.
``Since the outbreak of the September 11 incident, we have found that there are people who have been doing all they can to distort China`s image. These are out of ulterior motives. These attempts will not succeed,`` Sun said.
`The Guardian` of London had reported that an alleged senior agent of bin Laden`s Al Qaeda network in Europe told an associate, in a secretly taped conversation, that Chinese businessmen had paid 10 million dollars for access to the missiles.
Following the 1998 US attack, carried out in reprisal for the bombings of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, reports suggested that China had acquired two unexploded Tomahawk missiles.
The daily said a 32-year-old Libyan terrorist suspect met the head of Al Qaeda`s Italian cell, Sami ben Khemais, in a Milan flat and told him of China`s involvement in the procurement of missiles.
It said unknown to the two men, the flat had been bugged by Italian anti-terrorist officers.
#696 Posted by sigalph235 on October 24, 2001 12:38:32 am
re tahmed 712
``I assume incidentally that you would be mad as hell even if NY was not your city and some of the people killed not from your company. ``
I certainly didn`t mean to give that impression. If I did, I am sorry. It really doesn`t matter what one`s city is or where you work. This was an attack on everything we hold sacred and sacrosanct. As Ambassador A Tariq Karim said,
``All of humanity stood diminished by what they (the terrorists) did in New York``(message to America, Sept 19, 2001)
``I assume incidentally that you would be mad as hell even if NY was not your city and some of the people killed not from your company. ``
I certainly didn`t mean to give that impression. If I did, I am sorry. It really doesn`t matter what one`s city is or where you work. This was an attack on everything we hold sacred and sacrosanct. As Ambassador A Tariq Karim said,
``All of humanity stood diminished by what they (the terrorists) did in New York``(message to America, Sept 19, 2001)
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