Terry Burns October 24, 2001
#275 Posted by stuka on November 3, 2001 10:13:57 pm
semipreciousme:
“Semipreciousme, I will believe when I meet one.”
….well, you obviously haven’t met me yet….: )….
well, the loss is all ours :(
“Semipreciousme, I will believe when I meet one.”
….well, you obviously haven’t met me yet….: )….
well, the loss is all ours :(
#274 Posted by rsaxena on November 3, 2001 10:13:57 pm
Re: Eklayva
``If I continue to meet disappointments in my life, I just might...``
Ah, don`t worry dude...go have a drink, relax, and meet some hotties..you`ll be fine.
``If I continue to meet disappointments in my life, I just might...``
Ah, don`t worry dude...go have a drink, relax, and meet some hotties..you`ll be fine.
#273 Posted by ylh on November 3, 2001 10:13:57 pm
Macgupta:
` I think ylh will be deported
well before 2002. Who will search for his
scattered remnants in the wilderness of Pakistan ? `
I suggest you contact the FBI immediately... that particular agency and myself, we have a long history albiet as friends not enemies, ... so I wont count on my being `deported`.
As for the wilderness of Pakistan, I say Lahore sets the example for civilized cities in the subcontinent... truly deserving of its old title `Paris of Asia.`
-YLH
#272 Posted by ylh on November 3, 2001 10:13:57 pm
Looks like Sadna has finally lost it. The whining child she is, she thinks she is so important, that I will go kill her myself, by your Blood dear idiot I mean the blood of the Hindu Fundamentalists which threaten the existence of Pakistan ... You are not important enough to be killed ... Now I take it that you have called the FBI ... for long the good people of Pakistan have suffered at the hands of Hindu Bigots eg Gowardhan, Sadna, Jay, and Islamic fundamentalists eg Bin Laden, Qazi Husain Ahmed,
Its time we got rid of them all!
-YLH
Its time we got rid of them all!
-YLH
#271 Posted by ylh on November 3, 2001 10:13:57 pm
Gowardhan,
You idiot, How many times have I said that I agree with every single word of the article you have posted (the article by AH Nayyar). But to deny that similar nonsense exists in India is to deny the truth... and you are a living proof of the biases of a National Educational system designed by Hindu fundamentalists.
My assertion was different. You have on numerous occasions said that I am brainwashed by the Islamic fundamentalists of Pakistan when I say that Pakistan should be secular and that Jinnah wanted a secular Pakistan. The authors you are mentioning have similar views as me.
By the way your tirade against Udaykumar is ironic. He is held as one of the most enlightened writers within India... not that I agree with most of what he has to say. It just goes to show your ignorance. Udaykumar also a weekly column in the Fridaytimes, and has written over 2 dozen articles for chowk.com.
Macgupta,
Dear arun, now atleast you are no longer posing as the peacenik you used to. You BJP colors are finally in the open. I agree .. a culture of irrationality cannot be eroded. A God-ridden God-obsessed caste Culture like that of India will always remain a Hindu fundamentalist culture, no matter what facade of secularism and democracy that you may put on. You and your response are a clear example of it.
Sadna,
I live in New Jersey. I will be happy to meet you at a location of your choice. My email is pakistanigreywolf@hotmail.com.
However are you retracting your statement of `entire NWFP` and changing it to `women in two districts such as Dir and Malakand were not allowed to vote? If you are, you will restore my confidence, that there is still shame left amongst Indians.
Zafar:
Since when did calling a bigot a bigot become man-woman issue. My dear fellow we are not living in the era of chivalry, but instead in an era of equality. A man is equal to a woman and is not superior. Are you saying that I have some undue advantage over Sadna?
Perhaps your statement best explains the stupid statements that Muslims make while defending jihad
`it is not permissible to kill the weak the women the children etc...` Some of the finest American fighter pilots are women ... so whats this nonsense about man cursing a woman?
It is ironic that Zafar comes to the aid of Sadna because she is a woman, but the constant cursing at Aisha by Rsaxena goes completely unnoticed. Is it Zafar that rules apply only when YLH transgresses them, and that too in your own opinion ? I hope you issue a similar statement condemning Rsaxena, or else I think you are nothing but a hypocrite and in turn a `vulgar` person yourself ... tsk tsk...
Ofcourse, I dont have any such inclination to reprimand Rsaxena, because I have seen Aisha make mince meat out of him in response to his BS.
-YLH
You idiot, How many times have I said that I agree with every single word of the article you have posted (the article by AH Nayyar). But to deny that similar nonsense exists in India is to deny the truth... and you are a living proof of the biases of a National Educational system designed by Hindu fundamentalists.
My assertion was different. You have on numerous occasions said that I am brainwashed by the Islamic fundamentalists of Pakistan when I say that Pakistan should be secular and that Jinnah wanted a secular Pakistan. The authors you are mentioning have similar views as me.
By the way your tirade against Udaykumar is ironic. He is held as one of the most enlightened writers within India... not that I agree with most of what he has to say. It just goes to show your ignorance. Udaykumar also a weekly column in the Fridaytimes, and has written over 2 dozen articles for chowk.com.
Macgupta,
Dear arun, now atleast you are no longer posing as the peacenik you used to. You BJP colors are finally in the open. I agree .. a culture of irrationality cannot be eroded. A God-ridden God-obsessed caste Culture like that of India will always remain a Hindu fundamentalist culture, no matter what facade of secularism and democracy that you may put on. You and your response are a clear example of it.
Sadna,
I live in New Jersey. I will be happy to meet you at a location of your choice. My email is pakistanigreywolf@hotmail.com.
However are you retracting your statement of `entire NWFP` and changing it to `women in two districts such as Dir and Malakand were not allowed to vote? If you are, you will restore my confidence, that there is still shame left amongst Indians.
Zafar:
Since when did calling a bigot a bigot become man-woman issue. My dear fellow we are not living in the era of chivalry, but instead in an era of equality. A man is equal to a woman and is not superior. Are you saying that I have some undue advantage over Sadna?
Perhaps your statement best explains the stupid statements that Muslims make while defending jihad
`it is not permissible to kill the weak the women the children etc...` Some of the finest American fighter pilots are women ... so whats this nonsense about man cursing a woman?
It is ironic that Zafar comes to the aid of Sadna because she is a woman, but the constant cursing at Aisha by Rsaxena goes completely unnoticed. Is it Zafar that rules apply only when YLH transgresses them, and that too in your own opinion ? I hope you issue a similar statement condemning Rsaxena, or else I think you are nothing but a hypocrite and in turn a `vulgar` person yourself ... tsk tsk...
Ofcourse, I dont have any such inclination to reprimand Rsaxena, because I have seen Aisha make mince meat out of him in response to his BS.
-YLH
#270 Posted by Eklavya on November 3, 2001 2:17:16 pm
semiprecious,
If I continue to meet disappointments in my life, I just might...
I have been told by some people who are active in politics that I would make a better leader than many, but you can never trust your friends to be fair, can you? :)
If I continue to meet disappointments in my life, I just might...
I have been told by some people who are active in politics that I would make a better leader than many, but you can never trust your friends to be fair, can you? :)
#269 Posted by sadna on November 3, 2001 1:17:28 pm
Come now, guys, are you eunuchs or what? tahmed, you have been setting a great example here for many months abusing me in safe anonymity. Doesnot the Book tell you to stand up for yourselves? I live in NJ and am willing to meet up with any or all of you cowards to see whose blood is spilled like ylh promises, and I donot pay someone in my temple or village to do it for me.
#268 Posted by tahmed321 on November 3, 2001 9:52:14 am
ylh #247 You have kind words for me, and that is good, we all need that :-)
You quote the Quranic verse on how nations were meant to live with one another. That does not contradict anything I said in my previous post, you will agree I think. You have the right instincts on some basic issues (although I must add that in my view you emphasize personalities over ideas too much, and also old-fashioned nationalism too much, and may want to think about that). While I emphasize the Quran for those individuals who seem to have been misled by the garbage that passes for Islam in Pakistan, I think you are well beyond that stage and dont need to make references to Quranic verses to support your views. Keep the spirit of respect for learning for others and for your own abilities to think logically, and you are in line with the spirit of the Quran, and you dont need to refer to a Quranic verse on every issue.
Hope this does not seem like a sermon.
You quote the Quranic verse on how nations were meant to live with one another. That does not contradict anything I said in my previous post, you will agree I think. You have the right instincts on some basic issues (although I must add that in my view you emphasize personalities over ideas too much, and also old-fashioned nationalism too much, and may want to think about that). While I emphasize the Quran for those individuals who seem to have been misled by the garbage that passes for Islam in Pakistan, I think you are well beyond that stage and dont need to make references to Quranic verses to support your views. Keep the spirit of respect for learning for others and for your own abilities to think logically, and you are in line with the spirit of the Quran, and you dont need to refer to a Quranic verse on every issue.
Hope this does not seem like a sermon.
#267 Posted by Gowardhan on November 3, 2001 2:01:54 am
There comes the little twerp with new historical arguemnt. Mommy mommy, two of the authors taught me history.
ylh, if you have any shame,
Dispute what what the article said is taught in Paki history books.
Show where similar things are taught in Indian books.
ylh, if you have any shame,
Dispute what what the article said is taught in Paki history books.
Show where similar things are taught in Indian books.
#266 Posted by semipreciousme on November 3, 2001 2:01:54 am
Eklavya
“I often feel a deep sense of affection toward Pakistan. I truly wish it the very best in every way (except bombing India, of course :)).”
….thou art a very nice man:)….any likelihood of you becoming pm in the foreseeable future?…
Gowardhan
“Semipreciousme, I will believe when I meet one.”
….well, you obviously haven’t met me yet….: )….but seriously read my last post again, then re-read it…and then THINK……
“I often feel a deep sense of affection toward Pakistan. I truly wish it the very best in every way (except bombing India, of course :)).”
….thou art a very nice man:)….any likelihood of you becoming pm in the foreseeable future?…
Gowardhan
“Semipreciousme, I will believe when I meet one.”
….well, you obviously haven’t met me yet….: )….but seriously read my last post again, then re-read it…and then THINK……
#265 Posted by jay on November 3, 2001 2:01:54 am
FREEDOM AND JINNAH,
Countries in their hundreds have throw away the yoke of colonisation through freedom struggles. Some have been violent, some peaceful. But in all these countries, they have honoured the freedom fighters, the men and women who made significant personal sacrifices for the common good. These countries after independance have honoured them. In pakistan there are no freedom fighters, no pensions, no honours to these people, simply because, pakistan got feedom because on man drank sherry and watched the tamasha.
A free country with out freedom fighters,a freeloader of freedom, what a bastardised birth of a nation.
Countries in their hundreds have throw away the yoke of colonisation through freedom struggles. Some have been violent, some peaceful. But in all these countries, they have honoured the freedom fighters, the men and women who made significant personal sacrifices for the common good. These countries after independance have honoured them. In pakistan there are no freedom fighters, no pensions, no honours to these people, simply because, pakistan got feedom because on man drank sherry and watched the tamasha.
A free country with out freedom fighters,a freeloader of freedom, what a bastardised birth of a nation.
#264 Posted by ZafarA on November 3, 2001 2:01:54 am
Stuka - you did your training at Oberoi`s? Did you know anybody there called Umar Khusro?
Yasser - I try not to get involved in this, but truly, this argument is getting distasteful. A man abusing a woman (in whichever manner) does nothing but dishonour himself. Please get a grip - when you do this you aren`t defending Pakistan, you aren`t facing down/up to Sadna, you are demeaning and degrading yourself.
Yasser - I try not to get involved in this, but truly, this argument is getting distasteful. A man abusing a woman (in whichever manner) does nothing but dishonour himself. Please get a grip - when you do this you aren`t defending Pakistan, you aren`t facing down/up to Sadna, you are demeaning and degrading yourself.
#263 Posted by macgupta on November 3, 2001 2:01:54 am
Once the Taliban are wiped out and the US puts in a government then I suspect perhaps after a few years there will be very little of NWFP left (in Pakistan, that is :-)), lucky if xyz is left.
-Arun Gupta
#262 Posted by macgupta on November 3, 2001 2:01:54 am
ylh, American-educated or Pakistan-educated,
it does not make a difference. The core of
uncivilization and unculture and irrationality
within you cannot be removed.
Perhaps you will do better in your next incarnation. I will be glad to assist you in an early start. I live in your neck of the woods, you can find me easily by looking in the phone book.
Good luck !
-Arun Gupta
#261 Posted by macgupta on November 3, 2001 2:01:54 am
shammi #257 : I think ylh will be deported
well before 2002. Who will search for his
scattered remnants in the wilderness of Pakistan ?
-Arun Gupta
#260 Posted by sadna on November 2, 2001 5:48:44 pm
ylh #253
For the nth time, I am well aware that xyz districts donot constitute the whole of NWFP, I said so at the time and 100 times afterward. Why would I post a reference if I wanted to lie?
btw, what do I care why you think I am a liar. I am called a bigot almost every day of the week on almost every board,. You still cannot explain why you have to respond to my posts on this board by calling me a bigot, a liar and threatening me with biting the dust? I can make you bite the dust too, if I want to, do you have some doubt? You arguments are not better because you are a coward and use a discussion board to issue threats.
``anti-Pakistan propaganda``
Have you read a single post of mine on this topic of educational policy on this board? Everyone can do so and judge for themselves where is the anti-Pakistan propaganda. I donot see a single reason to threaten me or call me a liar except your own hatred.
btw, I live on the East Coast, too. I notice you donot have the courage to do anything but evade the necessity saying all these things to me face-to-face by calling me more names.
shammi #257
Glad to see you at least come into the open like this. Thanks for the suggestion and sorry I cannot wait that long and be abused and called a liar and a bigot on a daily basis by your friends till then. Either keep to civil discourse or stand up for yourselves in person.
You are absolute cowards, one and all. None of you has responded to any SUBJECT matter I have posted on this board, you have merely resorted to namecalling.
For the nth time, I am well aware that xyz districts donot constitute the whole of NWFP, I said so at the time and 100 times afterward. Why would I post a reference if I wanted to lie?
btw, what do I care why you think I am a liar. I am called a bigot almost every day of the week on almost every board,. You still cannot explain why you have to respond to my posts on this board by calling me a bigot, a liar and threatening me with biting the dust? I can make you bite the dust too, if I want to, do you have some doubt? You arguments are not better because you are a coward and use a discussion board to issue threats.
``anti-Pakistan propaganda``
Have you read a single post of mine on this topic of educational policy on this board? Everyone can do so and judge for themselves where is the anti-Pakistan propaganda. I donot see a single reason to threaten me or call me a liar except your own hatred.
btw, I live on the East Coast, too. I notice you donot have the courage to do anything but evade the necessity saying all these things to me face-to-face by calling me more names.
shammi #257
Glad to see you at least come into the open like this. Thanks for the suggestion and sorry I cannot wait that long and be abused and called a liar and a bigot on a daily basis by your friends till then. Either keep to civil discourse or stand up for yourselves in person.
You are absolute cowards, one and all. None of you has responded to any SUBJECT matter I have posted on this board, you have merely resorted to namecalling.
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