Benazir Bhutto in Sacramento

Re: scout

``first of all, I wasn`t talking to you, but if you insist on getting my attention, it`s ok. I`m flattered.``

look who`s talking...the macchar who kept throwing my name into post after post until i finally took notice and put the smack down...then of course macchar starts throwing hissy fits

Reply Sadna # 167

“Maneka modelled before she became a national d-i-l and commander-in-chief of dispossessed quadripeds. I`ve seen ads with her looking really cute and propa in a DCM? towel, let Ms Lodhi beat THAT…”

Please, life is difficult enough as it is…

RE sadna and Zafar

Maneka was quite pretty then, wasn`t she? But in the end, what matters is not the messenger, but the message. Eye candy works for only so long.

and while we`re on this topic, what about Nargis, Vyjanthimala Bali and Jayalalitha--who both looked kinda nice when they were young--except that Ms Bali and Nargis still had charm when they warmed their chairs in the Rajya Sabha while Ms. Jayalalitha unfortunately has expanded to resemble the cartoon character Obelix in girth.

But if any of the swiss banks wanted models for their discreet banking services, we sure have enough to offer: Sharad Pawar, AR Antulay or Laloo. However, our neighbors have the clear upper hand with BB. Had Rajiv been alive, Mr. Bofors would have easily pipper her to be the spokesmodel for the subcontinent.

Bottom line: all politicians and rulers [including the khaki types over there] are all crooks anyway. Power corrupts as the old saying goes.

Zico:

``It is the alliance between a pimp and his whore. If you dont do what he says you are going to get slapped. ``

Is that how you treat whores. Whores are people too, ok ? At most you would not pay them if they refuse to oblige.. but slapping is just plain wrong.

You are scum.

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I`m going to ask again:

Why do Indians throw hissy fits when they find Pakistan in a positive limelight, or for that matter, any limelight.

Grow up folks. Get your own country in shape instead of wasting mental energy on your neighbor.

Suxena #161,

first of all, I wasn`t talking to you, but if you insist on getting my attention, it`s ok. I`m flattered.

secondly, most of the world is doing exactly what the US wants so you don`t really need to make a special case of Pakistan. by the way, we`re getting something out of this. an opportunity to cleanse ourselves of fundamentalists and the Taleban, and to get our economy back on track.

you can say whatever you want to say, but i think Pakistan is on the right track these days. i know it hurts you to see this, but please calm down. it will be good for india too, indirectly.

Zico #165, ``It is the alliance between a pimp and his whore. If you dont do what he says you are going to get slapped. Simple as that. ``

And you think this alliance is different from India`s alliance to the US. or for that matter, all of the third world countries` alliance to the US.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Zico

Yup things are perfectly clear. The two men being held in Fort Worth Texas, the would be hijackers are from Andrapradesh and Indian residents.

As for Pakistan, you people have done a good job destroying our image, but the fact remains, that the protests in Pakistan have been 5000 to 10000 people, ... That number is nothing compared to the 140 Million population. We will win the hearts and minds, because unlike you and your kind we are not lying. Our people are honest and sincere. They have been misled but they stand by the United states....

In any event enjoy your moment of glory while you can because

1) PAKISTAN will NOT destabilize.

2) Our Arsenal Will not fall in the wrong hands.

3) US and Israel will not carry out pre emptive strikes. As for India, it will never succeed.

4) Musharraf Government will not fall.

5) Pakistan will emerge a stronger more vibrant nation.

So keep dreaming and hoping, cuz we aint fallin yet or ever Inshallah.

Yup things are perfectly clear Zico. Perhaps Arundati Roy said it best, but I will add my masaala to it... India is gyrating like a tawaif for US`s attention but will not get any. Your shameless attempt to jump in and offer your bases was not even given a second thought. Yup it is perfectly clear that India will go as far as to sabotage the entire effort in order to destroy Pakistan. India`s Hindu fundamentalist face is being exposed albeit slowly.

As for Pakistan and the US, the re vitalization of the Cold war ties, resumption of joint training, and Pakistan`s re-entry into the Western Weapons markets is here.

What is more, is that the state has finally realize the role of the media especially within Pakistan. The changes in the outlook, return to kemalism, after 5 years of talibanization which didnt take root, is imminent.

So dream on dreamer, cuz we will persevere, and we will exist till eternity God willing.

Long Live Pakistan.

YLH

PS Why do you keep using Islam and Pakistan interchangeably. Oh let me guess, your argument against the people caught at Fort Worth is that they are not Indians they are Muslims right?

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Zafar #162
Maneka modelled before she became a national d-i-l and commander-in-chief of dispossessed quadripeds. I`ve seen ads with her looking really cute and propa in a DCM? towel, let Ms Lodhi beat THAT..

RE: Reply #: 163 Asim Hayat

``LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AFP) - A Swiss court has agreed to hand over sensitive information to Pakistan about three frozen bank accounts as part of a probe into former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, judicial sources said Monday.``

That`s heartening to hear. Now if anyone can get the Pakistani army and it`s cohorts to open their books in a similar manner, I will be convinced that justice is at hand rather than a witchhunt.

scout;

{why can`t Indians like yourself handle the alliance between the US and Pakistan?}

Pakistan is a client state for the Gulf Arab republics, China, and now the USA. That is fine, Pakistan has a track record of such status, she is familiar with it (Tariq Alis ``used condom`` phrase summarises it perfectly).

But there is no alliance between the USA and Pakistan, as there is say, between Britain and America. It is the alliance between a pimp and his whore. If you dont do what he says you are going to get slapped. Simple as that. Musharraf has no choice.

One of the best journalists in South Asia, Ayaz Amir of ``The Dawn`` newspaper, puts it in the most exquisite prose. Read it and weep.

and stay off Ku Klux Klan websites.

Re: Asim

Kudos, Sir, on doing a good job by exposing a scoundral, and a pat on the back to all other students who put out flyers illuminating BB`s BS. This is the only way to deal with these kind of crooks. Students and the ``moderate`` educated middle class needs to have this on top of their agenda. Take these thieves down. I salute your efforts.

factoid: In her first term, BB, issued 392 Ordiances that year, if any one remembers...:-)

Our exministers get to have accounts in beautiful places like Lausanne.

Regards

Asim

P.S Aur Haan Ras Sahib, Mushahid Hussain is a parha likha chalta phirta hypocrite par excellence. :) After all the fellow got torn asunder by the veritable Cowasjee in his columns, not once, but numerous times, and rightly so too. His opinions make for a great revolving door! another sign of a lack of character!

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/today/main/top6.htm

LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AFP) - A Swiss court has agreed to hand over sensitive information to Pakistan about three frozen bank accounts as part of a probe into former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, judicial sources said Monday.

The sources said Switzerland’s highest court in mid-October rejected an appeal filed by three companies, whose accounts have been frozen since 1997, to prevent Pakistan obtaining information about their Swiss-held assets.

The companies, all based in the tax-havens of the British Virgin Islands and Panama, appealed against the release of banking information, citing human rights violations and irregularities in the judicial procedure in Pakistan.

‘We don’t see how they could be concerned by the human rights situation or by procedural irregularities in the country requesting the information,’ the Swiss tribunal said in its October 15 ruling, noting that the companies were not established in Pakistan but in international tax-havens.

The accounts were frozen on October 16, 1997 by an investigating judge in Geneva, following a request for judicial assistance by Pakistan’s general prosecutor in an embezzlement case against Benazir, her husband Asif Ali Zardari, and her mother Nusrat Bhutto.

At the time, Swiss authorities started a parallel investigation into the matters.

In 1998 Swiss Judge Daniel Devaud asked for the indictment of Benazir and her husband for money-laundering in connection with financial transactions they carried out with two Swiss companies, the Societe Generale de Surveillance (SGS) and its subsidiary Cotecna.

In April 1999, a Lahore court sentenced the Bhuttos to a five-year prison term after they were found guilty of accepting a multi-million-dollar bribe from Swiss companies in exchange for awarding an export-control contract.

The Bhuttos were also ordered to each pay an 8.6 million dollar (9.5 million Euro) fine.

But the Pakistani Supreme Court overturned the verdict in April this year, saying it had been politically motivated.

In June a Pakistani judge again sentenced the former Prime Minister in absentia to three years in jail.

Re: my old friend macchar

``alliance between the US and Pakistan?``

umm...don`t know if when one country tells another to ``SHUT UP AND DO THIS OR ELSE`` it qualifies as an alliance or a majboori...