Ras Siddiqui October 30, 2001
#81 Posted by Eklavya on November 2, 2001 3:17:01 am
Arrested and Kafir (#71, #72)
Come off it, guys! It was just a bloody innocuous comment. If it isn`t something up your alley, let it go, move on.
Come off it, guys! It was just a bloody innocuous comment. If it isn`t something up your alley, let it go, move on.
#82 Posted by Zico on November 2, 2001 9:21:12 am
Top Ten Tips For Ambitious Pakistani Generals
10. Colonise Afghanistan for ten years, be complicit in massacre of 10,000 Hazara Shias in Mazar-e-Sharif. This is the price of ``strategic depth``.
9. Allow your country to be used by Arab militants.
8. Explode afew bombs in Kashmir, kill afew Hindu sheperds.
7. Sit back while your friends blow up Buddhist staues.
6. Persecute Ahmedhis/Christians/Hindus.
5. Massacre Christians in church and blame it on India.
4. Label everyone who disagrees with you a ``Zionist`` or “Hindu” .
3. Proclaim the greatness of your state and its inviolability.
2. 5h1t in your pants like a cowardly little scarecrow when you receive a midnight call from Texas saying ``Let us use you like a condom again or we blast you to pieces``
1. Betray your whole Ummah like an Uncle Tom and blame the Hindus for everything afflicting Pakistan from their constipation to September 11 itself (which was a Jewish conspiracy to defame Islam, of course)
;-)
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Just kidding Pakistanis. Just a little fun.
10. Colonise Afghanistan for ten years, be complicit in massacre of 10,000 Hazara Shias in Mazar-e-Sharif. This is the price of ``strategic depth``.
9. Allow your country to be used by Arab militants.
8. Explode afew bombs in Kashmir, kill afew Hindu sheperds.
7. Sit back while your friends blow up Buddhist staues.
6. Persecute Ahmedhis/Christians/Hindus.
5. Massacre Christians in church and blame it on India.
4. Label everyone who disagrees with you a ``Zionist`` or “Hindu” .
3. Proclaim the greatness of your state and its inviolability.
2. 5h1t in your pants like a cowardly little scarecrow when you receive a midnight call from Texas saying ``Let us use you like a condom again or we blast you to pieces``
1. Betray your whole Ummah like an Uncle Tom and blame the Hindus for everything afflicting Pakistan from their constipation to September 11 itself (which was a Jewish conspiracy to defame Islam, of course)
;-)
...........................................................................
Just kidding Pakistanis. Just a little fun.
#83 Posted by anNy on November 2, 2001 9:21:12 am
dear arrested development
you are saying that as a man youve never noticed pretty feet in women? u are a very sad case then....theres nothing as feminine as nice, well kept feet or a pretty ankle...when i met benazir, she was dressed uuugly..real uugly and her shoes were even uglier...but since it was an informal dinner party she soon removed the shoes and while evryone was drooling over her solitaire, i couldnt stop looking at her feet..flawless, creamy, pedicured feet with nice light silverish pink nail colour..alright?
please keep me away from your porno thoughts next time...ask for an explaination if you dont understand something
you are saying that as a man youve never noticed pretty feet in women? u are a very sad case then....theres nothing as feminine as nice, well kept feet or a pretty ankle...when i met benazir, she was dressed uuugly..real uugly and her shoes were even uglier...but since it was an informal dinner party she soon removed the shoes and while evryone was drooling over her solitaire, i couldnt stop looking at her feet..flawless, creamy, pedicured feet with nice light silverish pink nail colour..alright?
please keep me away from your porno thoughts next time...ask for an explaination if you dont understand something
#84 Posted by Bhardwaj on November 2, 2001 12:36:45 pm
Zico # 83
;-)
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Just kidding Pakistanis. Just a little fun.
ZICO,
if you were just kidding ,it would be not as pathetic.
But you plagarised it from posting in SULEKHA ,which would have been alright ,if you had given the due credit of copy rigt or acknowledgement.
PATHETIC
#85 Posted by rsaxena on November 2, 2001 12:36:45 pm
Re: Arrested Dev
``5/ahaan--once i came across a whole porno site devoted to feet FETISH``
so this is a regular ritual for you?
``5/ahaan--once i came across a whole porno site devoted to feet FETISH``
so this is a regular ritual for you?
#86 Posted by ylh on November 2, 2001 12:36:45 pm
Please dear Shammi, and idiot saxena,
Do not think that for a moment I commend the Military takeover, but I know that the Military takeover was the lesser of the two evils. Given the option between a Democratically elected Nawaz Sharif planning on becoming the `Amirulmomineen` of Pakistan, and a Kemalist General-dictator, I think I would choose Kemalist general anyday.
Democracy is dear to me, but its not a priority especially when our people in Pakistan have not yet achieved that political culture... nor do I think the continuation of democracy unchecked would create that political culture, because we see in India that Democracy has only moved the country from bad to worse when it comes to the issues of human rights etc.
My only assertion was that since Musharraf has sought legitimacy from the Supreme Court, it is only fair to assume that the `fundamental rights` chapter of the Pakistan constitution stands despite the `suspension`.
-YLH
Do not think that for a moment I commend the Military takeover, but I know that the Military takeover was the lesser of the two evils. Given the option between a Democratically elected Nawaz Sharif planning on becoming the `Amirulmomineen` of Pakistan, and a Kemalist General-dictator, I think I would choose Kemalist general anyday.
Democracy is dear to me, but its not a priority especially when our people in Pakistan have not yet achieved that political culture... nor do I think the continuation of democracy unchecked would create that political culture, because we see in India that Democracy has only moved the country from bad to worse when it comes to the issues of human rights etc.
My only assertion was that since Musharraf has sought legitimacy from the Supreme Court, it is only fair to assume that the `fundamental rights` chapter of the Pakistan constitution stands despite the `suspension`.
-YLH
#87 Posted by ylh on November 2, 2001 12:36:45 pm
tvrad,
If you really think we Pakistanis are obsessed with you guys and not the other way around, what are you doing on this board... and why is it that there are Indians on every Pakistani site, but very few pakistanis ever go to Indian sites?
There is only one nation in the subcontinent which is obsessed with the other, and that aint Pakistan.
If you really think we Pakistanis are obsessed with you guys and not the other way around, what are you doing on this board... and why is it that there are Indians on every Pakistani site, but very few pakistanis ever go to Indian sites?
There is only one nation in the subcontinent which is obsessed with the other, and that aint Pakistan.
#88 Posted by ylh on November 2, 2001 12:36:45 pm
Zico
Sorry, the Sarwari post still stands valid.. as for your post, it is a bunch of crap (read fertile Indian imagination).
-YLH
Sorry, the Sarwari post still stands valid.. as for your post, it is a bunch of crap (read fertile Indian imagination).
-YLH
#89 Posted by tahmed321 on November 2, 2001 12:36:45 pm
anNY #84 The one-time I had the chance to see her up close (4 seats away, around a square conference table) when she met some of us Pakis in the US, BB did strike an attractive figure. She came in late to the meeting, by herself, apologizing profusely, and reminded me of a college student coming late for class. But her clever answers to questions posed by us (most of them quite blunt, in the same vein as some of the posts about her on this board) assured me that the private person was the same as the public person - uncaring for Pakistan, and eager to somehow get a third chance. Citizen BB may be OK, but Prime Minister BB has had 2 chances and that is one chance more than enough for any person, even BB.
#90 Posted by Arrested Develo on November 2, 2001 12:36:45 pm
Does anyone else read this mans column in Indian Express ?
http://www.indian-express.com/columnists/mush/index.html
http://www.indian-express.com/columnists/mush/index.html
#91 Posted by Eklavya on November 2, 2001 1:00:16 pm
Arrested Psycho,
Even before you can see inside anyone else, you have revealed to us all what lies inside you - absolute filth.
You give psychos a bad name. The only explanation you need offering is one for your nauseating existence. Spare us your ``expertise.`` There might be a collective puke on Chowk.
Even before you can see inside anyone else, you have revealed to us all what lies inside you - absolute filth.
You give psychos a bad name. The only explanation you need offering is one for your nauseating existence. Spare us your ``expertise.`` There might be a collective puke on Chowk.
#92 Posted by shammi on November 2, 2001 5:15:50 pm
Re: YLH
These are confusing times. Two years ago, when the crisis was not grave, I criticized Musharraf`s takeover. Now, that that crisis HAS become grave, and in large part due to unaccountable ISI`s meddling in Afghanistan , Musharraf is indeed the lesser of two evils - dictatorship vs. fundamentalist takeover. But, make no mistake, it was a lack of democracy that brought Pakistan to the current impasse, in the first place.
Today, there was an article in the Washington Times that the White House knows about the help that the certain agencies of the Govt. of Pakistan still continue to give Taleban. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20011102-22061210.htm)
That is the reason why Musharraf has no choice -- he HAS to kow-tow to the US, or else make Pakistan a US target. This is the end result of bankrupt foreign policy authored by those in uniform. They have mortgaged Pakistan`s sovereignty for the promise of an unreliable, stubborn ally. A democratic regime would have not punched above its weight, and would have kept Pakistan`s national interest in consideration, not some rogue agency`s. Today, Pakistan is at an abyss. It is Musharraf or ?. There are no institutions as a fall back option. That is why, even though the person of Musharraf may be good, the Office of President (former CE) is is in disrepute. What may appear to be expedient now, may very well sow the seeds for a disaster tomorrow. That is why I am so uncompromising on basic representative democracy. ONCE THIS CRISIS IS OVER, THE US MUST PRESSURE MUSHARRAF TO RESTORE DEMOCRACY. HE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BACK OUT OF HIS OCTOBER 2002 COMMITMENTS.
These are confusing times. Two years ago, when the crisis was not grave, I criticized Musharraf`s takeover. Now, that that crisis HAS become grave, and in large part due to unaccountable ISI`s meddling in Afghanistan , Musharraf is indeed the lesser of two evils - dictatorship vs. fundamentalist takeover. But, make no mistake, it was a lack of democracy that brought Pakistan to the current impasse, in the first place.
Today, there was an article in the Washington Times that the White House knows about the help that the certain agencies of the Govt. of Pakistan still continue to give Taleban. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20011102-22061210.htm)
That is the reason why Musharraf has no choice -- he HAS to kow-tow to the US, or else make Pakistan a US target. This is the end result of bankrupt foreign policy authored by those in uniform. They have mortgaged Pakistan`s sovereignty for the promise of an unreliable, stubborn ally. A democratic regime would have not punched above its weight, and would have kept Pakistan`s national interest in consideration, not some rogue agency`s. Today, Pakistan is at an abyss. It is Musharraf or ?. There are no institutions as a fall back option. That is why, even though the person of Musharraf may be good, the Office of President (former CE) is is in disrepute. What may appear to be expedient now, may very well sow the seeds for a disaster tomorrow. That is why I am so uncompromising on basic representative democracy. ONCE THIS CRISIS IS OVER, THE US MUST PRESSURE MUSHARRAF TO RESTORE DEMOCRACY. HE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BACK OUT OF HIS OCTOBER 2002 COMMITMENTS.
#93 Posted by stuka on November 2, 2001 5:15:50 pm
YLH:
Have you read the analysis in the Friday Times, the one by Khalid Ahmed, specifically where he talks about the ISI brigadier involved in the Bombay bomb blasts, and the resultant current residence of Dawood Ibrahim in Karachi.
Would you care to refute that analysis with facts that you may have. You can take the easy way out and give me 10 gaalis, but I am talking about a specific article, in a Pakistani magazine. If you like, I can post the relevant portion on Chowk, or need be the whole article.
Have you read the analysis in the Friday Times, the one by Khalid Ahmed, specifically where he talks about the ISI brigadier involved in the Bombay bomb blasts, and the resultant current residence of Dawood Ibrahim in Karachi.
Would you care to refute that analysis with facts that you may have. You can take the easy way out and give me 10 gaalis, but I am talking about a specific article, in a Pakistani magazine. If you like, I can post the relevant portion on Chowk, or need be the whole article.
#94 Posted by tvarad on November 2, 2001 5:15:50 pm
RE: Reply #: 90 ylh
``If you really think we Pakistanis are obsessed with you guys and not the other way around, what are you doing on this board... and why is it that there are Indians on every Pakistani site, but very few pakistanis ever go to Indian sites?
There is only one nation in the subcontinent which is obsessed with the other, and that aint Pakistan.``
Believe me, I was out of all boards on the net until Kargil which brings me back to my contention that you guys have to stop biting when we Indians are not looking. It`s not nice. ;-).
It seems to me that your feudal mentality of wanting to own everything around you will not go away even with education. The net isn`t your grandfather`s property. Why don`t you go back to your village or wherever you come from in Pakistan and ply your penchant for ownership on the Haris or whatever. It ain`t gonna work on the net.
``If you really think we Pakistanis are obsessed with you guys and not the other way around, what are you doing on this board... and why is it that there are Indians on every Pakistani site, but very few pakistanis ever go to Indian sites?
There is only one nation in the subcontinent which is obsessed with the other, and that aint Pakistan.``
Believe me, I was out of all boards on the net until Kargil which brings me back to my contention that you guys have to stop biting when we Indians are not looking. It`s not nice. ;-).
It seems to me that your feudal mentality of wanting to own everything around you will not go away even with education. The net isn`t your grandfather`s property. Why don`t you go back to your village or wherever you come from in Pakistan and ply your penchant for ownership on the Haris or whatever. It ain`t gonna work on the net.
#95 Posted by Asim on November 2, 2001 5:15:50 pm
Re : Ras Siddiqui
Ms Benazir Bhutto has many duppata - carriers, in the many Pakistani men who admire her and support her. You, Sir are simply one of them despite having been duped, tricked, deceived, robbed of your dignity and honour by an embezzler par excellence. and that too a woman. Granted she is much smarter than her supporters, but then again someone has to support her, someone has to lavish her unmerited praise by writing exaggerated tributes, someone has to ask her to come back and take a crap all over them. Better them than me, Sir!
That is the reason that the Pakistanis at Stanford for a chnage became organised enough to arrange for a ``lifting of the veil behind the monstraous face``. I think the Stanford american community went away with a better persepective of our first Islamic national swindler(ess?). Thye certainly felt curious as to why there was a barrage of questions being directed against the duppata clad (ex-miniskirts wearing fashion chic of the 70`s in Ney York), and those too by Pakistanis.
ON TOP OF ALL HER SHAMELESS SELF GLORIFICATION AND DENIGRATION OF MY COUNTRY AS AN EVIL PLACE GOOD FOR NOTHING BUT FOR HARBOURING TERRORISTS SHE HAD THE UNMITIGATING TEMERITY TO SUGGEST THAT SHE HERSELF WAS THE TARGET OF TWO ASSASINATION ATTEMPTS BY THE TALIBANS. IRONIC THAT SHE HERSEFL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ``TALIBAN``. IRONIC THAT SHE MANAGES TO DUCK HER QUESTIONS OF HER INEPTITUDE IN REFORMING THE COUNTRY FOR THE BETTER TWO TIMES, NOT ONCE. IRONIC THAT EDUCATED FOOLS LIKE YOU STILL WOULD LOVE TO LOOK UP TO THIS, THIS DEMAGOGUE TO WREAK HAVOC ON THE REMNANT WEALTH WITHIN PAKISTANI EXCHEQUER, IRONIC THAT YOU WOULD LET HER LOOSE IN ARRANGING FOR GENOCIDE OF A PEOPLE, WHO ARE NOT AS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ENCONSED IN A COMFORTBALE LIFESTYLE MILES AWAY IN SAN JOSE. IRONIC THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN HOW THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE RUN, FROM THE COMFORTS OF YOUR LIVING ROOM. IRONIC THAT YOU CAN STILL PRAISE HER AFTER ALL THE EVIDENCE IN SWITZERLAND, AND HER MILLION DOLLAR PURCHASES OF DIAMOND NECKLACES FROM HARRODS. SHE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR LOHAR MIAN. ALL THESE CROOKS NEED TO BE PURGED, from the country.
PAKISTAN WOULD RATHER HAVE A KEMAL ATA TURK WANNABE AT ITS HELM THAN FEUDAL DYNASTY ``LOSER``.
Sincerely,
Asim
P.S How did you benefit from Bhutto`s rule! I know we all suffered during her times, despite my elevated expectations as a young man that i attributed to this notorious ``daughter of the East``.
Ms Benazir Bhutto has many duppata - carriers, in the many Pakistani men who admire her and support her. You, Sir are simply one of them despite having been duped, tricked, deceived, robbed of your dignity and honour by an embezzler par excellence. and that too a woman. Granted she is much smarter than her supporters, but then again someone has to support her, someone has to lavish her unmerited praise by writing exaggerated tributes, someone has to ask her to come back and take a crap all over them. Better them than me, Sir!
That is the reason that the Pakistanis at Stanford for a chnage became organised enough to arrange for a ``lifting of the veil behind the monstraous face``. I think the Stanford american community went away with a better persepective of our first Islamic national swindler(ess?). Thye certainly felt curious as to why there was a barrage of questions being directed against the duppata clad (ex-miniskirts wearing fashion chic of the 70`s in Ney York), and those too by Pakistanis.
ON TOP OF ALL HER SHAMELESS SELF GLORIFICATION AND DENIGRATION OF MY COUNTRY AS AN EVIL PLACE GOOD FOR NOTHING BUT FOR HARBOURING TERRORISTS SHE HAD THE UNMITIGATING TEMERITY TO SUGGEST THAT SHE HERSELF WAS THE TARGET OF TWO ASSASINATION ATTEMPTS BY THE TALIBANS. IRONIC THAT SHE HERSEFL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ``TALIBAN``. IRONIC THAT SHE MANAGES TO DUCK HER QUESTIONS OF HER INEPTITUDE IN REFORMING THE COUNTRY FOR THE BETTER TWO TIMES, NOT ONCE. IRONIC THAT EDUCATED FOOLS LIKE YOU STILL WOULD LOVE TO LOOK UP TO THIS, THIS DEMAGOGUE TO WREAK HAVOC ON THE REMNANT WEALTH WITHIN PAKISTANI EXCHEQUER, IRONIC THAT YOU WOULD LET HER LOOSE IN ARRANGING FOR GENOCIDE OF A PEOPLE, WHO ARE NOT AS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ENCONSED IN A COMFORTBALE LIFESTYLE MILES AWAY IN SAN JOSE. IRONIC THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN HOW THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE RUN, FROM THE COMFORTS OF YOUR LIVING ROOM. IRONIC THAT YOU CAN STILL PRAISE HER AFTER ALL THE EVIDENCE IN SWITZERLAND, AND HER MILLION DOLLAR PURCHASES OF DIAMOND NECKLACES FROM HARRODS. SHE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR LOHAR MIAN. ALL THESE CROOKS NEED TO BE PURGED, from the country.
PAKISTAN WOULD RATHER HAVE A KEMAL ATA TURK WANNABE AT ITS HELM THAN FEUDAL DYNASTY ``LOSER``.
Sincerely,
Asim
P.S How did you benefit from Bhutto`s rule! I know we all suffered during her times, despite my elevated expectations as a young man that i attributed to this notorious ``daughter of the East``.
#96 Posted by bong_dongs on November 3, 2001 2:01:54 am
I remember Mr Hamdani having some doubts about the Javed Nasir - SGPC link. The following from the latest TFT might help:
``General Javed Nasir is out of Auqaf after a disastrous tenure and an abortive gamble with the setting up of Pakistan`s own Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee.``
``General Javed Nasir is out of Auqaf after a disastrous tenure and an abortive gamble with the setting up of Pakistan`s own Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee.``
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