The Laying to Waste of the World: a Memory of I.H Burney

Bijli #590 ``i will give you 10$ go live in SECULAR india to show how nice you are ``

10$?? Is that all you have to offer?? You should be ashamed of yourself. Instead of calling yourself Bijli, Bapu and Bhardwaj you should be calling yourself, ``Cheap``, ``Miser``, and ``Scrooge``.

And I said I met fine people, I didnt say I was a nice guy. Even not-so-nice guys can run into fine people.

It is 3 AM in Mazare Sharif -- negotiations are going on between Talibans and Northern Alliance for the surrender of the Kunduz Talibani and the mercenaries forces -- Taliban commanders have agreed to surrendur -- American bombing against Kunduz Talibans has been halted.

Afghans will be allowed to defect and go free -- but not the mercenaries -- US is dead against letting the Arabs, the Chechens -- and a very big contingent of ``others`` go free -- neither to their countries of origin -- nor to the heaven -- ie no executions.

So tomorrow Kunduz -- day after -- Kandhar

WOMEN MARCH FOR RIGHTS;

DEMAND HEAVY FOR TV SETS

By

MORTROSENBLUM

TheAssoclated Press

KABUL, Afghanistan — Scores of women shed their burqas and marched through the streets of Kabul to demand new rights Tuesday. Then, dutiful Afghan wives, they covered up again and hurried home.

“Change will take a little time,” said Soriya Parlika, the protest organizer who headed Afghanistan’s Red Crescent Society before the Tailban forced women to leave their jobs, “but this a start.”

The sudden collapse of harsh Taliban rule has lightened the mood for men and women in this tradition-bound capital of ancient ways.

In some places, such as the little cluster of electronics shops downtown, shopkeepers are ebullient.

Mirza Mohammed has sold 100 of the TV sets he kept hidden for years, and more are on the way from Paid-stan. A shop next door features digital videodiscs of Indian films in boxes adorned by busty beauties with bare shoulders.

“We have freedom now,” he said, over the heads of customers crowding around him. “No one will miss the Taliban.”

A few doors down, a 17-year-old shop owner who calls himself only Abrash does a brisk business in homemade satellite dishes cut from tin cans. Fancier factory models can capture U.S. and European channels. His father smuggles TV sets, which sell faster than he can supply them.

Asked if he was getting rich, Ahrash laughed. “I’m already rich,” he said. “Now I’m also free.”

His friend, Mohammed Daoud, added, “If I catch any Taliban, I will kill them, whatever penalty I’d have to pay.” Religious police smashed and burned his stock of banned televisions last year and jailed him for weeks.

In another part of downtown, bright yellow and green letters announce a new beauty parlor. It is decorated inside with photos of women in glamorous hairstyles and elaborate makeup.

The bakery next door sells 80 percent more of the sticky sweets and cookies Afghans buy for entertaining than it did before the Taliban left. “People go out now to visit Mends,” said Abdul Wahed, 25, at the counter. “They have their lives back.”

Chowkies,

Although many of us have ambivalent feelings about this holiday, my best to my friends at Chowk. I hope that it is, as well as Diwali and Ramadan, a time of peace, health and introspection.

12 head:

Its becoming very clear that you are probably a village idiot. How come you dont have a normally functioning brain in any one of those 12 heads? Madrassah education--I bet.

Very interesting case though. Normally the personalities in Multiple Personality Disorder are quite varied. Youre the only case I know where each one of the personalities is a dope!

re scout

``Are Afghani women running around in silk saris and miniskirts...``

Good things take time!

How Allah spreads the faith even through those who do not intend to do so.

..................(Masjid Picture Here)

.........The central Islamic mosque in Seoul.

( GIF )

The first Koreans in modern times to be introduced to Islam lived in Manchuria, where they had moved between 1895 and 1928 under Japanese colonial policy. After World War II, many Koreans returned to the peninsula from Manchuria and among them were converts to Islam. They were not organized, however, and had no place of worship until the Korean War when Turkish troops came to Korea as part of the 16 nation United Nations Command and brought with them an Imam as chaplain. Korean Muslims were granted permission to worship with the Turkish troops and the Islamic faith grew.

Major recent water-shed events which brought Islam to those who had never heard about it.

1)Korean War...returning soldiers,middle east jobs

2)VietNam war...dissillusioned soldiers,Ali,X

3)Iranian Revolution--TV coverage,search for truth

4)Rushdie affair-----Media frenzy

5)Gulf War---returning soldiers.

6)Afghanistan......

FACT:Over 85% of muslims are Non-Arab.Over 55% are Chinese ethnic group.

Now there goes the stereo-type in the english-educated mind.

anNY------582

Come to think of it!Explaining this to Indians who wrote the book on ``Mayaa kaa JaaL``(The trappings of materialism``).

How incrementally ignorant,of their own rich heritage,the ``educated`` ones are becoming,is simply horrendous.

Is it because now it has become ``Sarmaayaa kaa Jaal``(The mesh-net of Capitalism``)?---and therefore has some merit?...Loot & Plunder under the guise of economic `philosophy` & political legitimacy?

Stuka #555, ``Mr Karia elaborated, Pakistan and Afghanistan have massive audiences for Hindi moives but Hindi films are banned in the theaters of Pakistan. `` Afghanistan is a huge market for Bollywood films since they relate to the films as it has a familiar cultural background``.``

Familiar cultural background? Are Afghani women running around in silk saris and miniskirts singing stupid songs around equally stupid men?

As if their current and historical plight wasn`t torture enough. The Afghanis now can look forward to a new kind of slow, painful, torture offered by Indian movies.

Dear AAmir:



A 1000 mile journey begins with the FIRST step.

Something routine for the world -- an extraordinary moment for the Women of Afghanistan.

The scourge of Talibani Jahilans stands destroyed for the Women of Afghanistan -- thanks to Mr. Bush -- Northern Alliance -- and Pushtuns like Mr. Abdul Qadeer of Jalalabad.

cheers

semipreciousme:

BC is nice, though it depends on the major, and if you`re applying for undergrad or grad school. It`s in a really nice part of the city though. Chestnut Hill is close to downtown, but it also retains a campus like charm.

P.S. You like the Red Skins? Did you go to school in Washington? My boss is a major Red Skins fan.

AAmir #579

``Look at harlem & down town Detroit ,America has 100% literacy so they say .Why is there poverty & ghetoes among spanish, Latinos,Blacks & non whites mostly others.``

America does not have a 100% literacy rate in any meaningful sense, a fact that is frequently pointed out by US educators. And investment in education and income levels are highly correlated, according to many studies.

``Kerala & other states in India which have higher % of literacy are not the most economically strong states either.`` I think I saw a map of India some time back where Kerala and some other South Indian states, as well as Panjab in the north, were shown as much higher income levels than other parts of India.

``Without chance to improve the quality of life ,Education only leads to dashed hopes.``

Agreed. This conclusion of course does not follow from your premises, as quoted above. But since your premises are wrong that doesnt matter.

Please think harder when you write on chowk.

Semipreciousme:

``….um…..come again?…``

Semi, hamzad is referring to a saying of Maula Ali`s that my ma is forever telling me to pay heed to..not loving the world here is not refering to not liking your fellow men or hibernating in a little dabba away from the evil world...from what i make of it, it refers to not letting the world and its luxuries n all that intoxicate you to the point that that is all you see....forgetting God and the Hereafter, the central beliefs of muslims as a result of excessive love for what the world has to offer is the `folly` here

..the problem with people like Fatimah is that they believe the representatives of Indian Muslims should be the uneducated and hateful Mullahs...they discount what MJ Akbar, Shabana Azmi or any other educated and intelligent Indian Muslim has to say...these are the people who should be leaders of the Indian Muslim community and perhaps even India at large...

````HIndus stil cant live with muslims..``(Fatimah)

Fatimah -- such a beautiful name -- with suh a poison pen -- like a Poison Ivy?

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