Sabeen Idris November 22, 2001
#29 Posted by Prem on November 28, 2001 9:41:00 pm
re: Khamkhwa # 28
LOL...see, dude, you have it in you to write good stuff.
arz hai -
Makhan-chor ka Premi ho ya,
Mast haseena par mar jaai
In Chowkan kee lambee galiyaan ma
Sabkee batiyaan ban jaain.
LOL...see, dude, you have it in you to write good stuff.
arz hai -
Makhan-chor ka Premi ho ya,
Mast haseena par mar jaai
In Chowkan kee lambee galiyaan ma
Sabkee batiyaan ban jaain.
#28 Posted by khamkhwa on November 28, 2001 12:33:47 pm
Prem-23
``Man, are you out of your mind? One doesn`t have to be a prude to find all this stuff offensive.``
MaiN daasi prem ki,preet kiye pachtaai
Makhanchor hamaro Bapu,so nikla harjai
PS:Having seen mch--d,bch--d,basta-d,bit-h,kamina,
prostitue,et al, what was offensive about my poem?
It was a fictional description of fictional
characters who have been harassing females under
the guise of freedom of speech.What about my freedom of speech and how about the poem;)
Nyaay karo maharaaj!
``Man, are you out of your mind? One doesn`t have to be a prude to find all this stuff offensive.``
MaiN daasi prem ki,preet kiye pachtaai
Makhanchor hamaro Bapu,so nikla harjai
PS:Having seen mch--d,bch--d,basta-d,bit-h,kamina,
prostitue,et al, what was offensive about my poem?
It was a fictional description of fictional
characters who have been harassing females under
the guise of freedom of speech.What about my freedom of speech and how about the poem;)
Nyaay karo maharaaj!
#27 Posted by Fatimah on November 28, 2001 12:33:47 pm
KARACHI vis a Vis CALCUTTA
TALE OF TWO CITIES & TAXES PEOPLE PAY
BY SUVRO ROY
Calcutta, Nov. 27 :
Karachi and Calcutta have so much in common… “Both are congested port cities. Both have malaria and open drains on the outskirts. Both are poised to introduce low-cost housing for city slum dwellers.”
The one major civic difference between Karachi and Calcutta: “Residents of Karachi have been paying water, fire and conservancy taxes from the very beginning.”
The observations came from a man who matters — Muhammad Tariq Hasan, deputy lord mayor of Karachi City Government. “I was taken by surprise when mayor Subrata Mukherjee told me that Calcuttans do not have to pay even water tax, leave alone a levy on fire and conservancy services,” said Hasan, in the city on a three-day trip to attend the seminar on ‘Urban Environment Management: Local Government and Community Action’.
The 29-year-old deputy lord mayor of the 650 sq-km port city said every year, residents have to “pay a package” — Rs 1,000 and upwards, according to the size of the plot and house — for water supply, fire and conservancy services. “We have been paying water tax ever since we can remember. The attitude of the people in Karachi towards the civic body is : Tax lo, hamare upar lagao, lekin chori mat karo (Levy tax, spend the money on us but don’t steal public money),” said Hasan.
Calcutta’s mayor certainly picked up a civic tax tip or two from the Karachi deputy lord mayor. “I never knew that the people of Karachi had to pay so many civic taxes. I hope to visit the city soon and take a closer look at their system of governance, which is so different from ours,” said Mukherjee, who has been struggling to convince Trinamul Congress chairperson Mamata Banerjee about the need to impose a tax on filtered-water supply in the city.
Hasan said he had “invited Mukherjee and his family” to Karachi and promised him a trip to the ruins of the ancient civilisations of Mohenjodaro and Harappa. “I did not know that the Calcutta mayor was a post-graduate in archaeology. He has shown keen interest in coming to Karachi. There are many things in Calcutta I had studied in history but saw for the first time.”
The young deputy lord mayor visited Victoria Memorial, the Indian Museum and Rabindranath Tagore’s ancestral house in Jorasanko during his whirlwind tour. He was “thrilled” by a Metro ride and “most impressed” by the just-unveiled Parkomat on Rawdon Street.
“After returning to Karachi, I will be working on our proposed underground rail system and modern parking plazas,” said Hasan, who pointed out another “vital difference” between the two civic bodies.
“In Calcutta, the civic board is elected from representatives of political parties, but in Karachi, the civic board is non-political... If I attend any political meeting or rally while in office, I will lose my job,” admitted Hasan.
It must have been Mukherjee’s turn to be “taken by surprise”.
TALE OF TWO CITIES & TAXES PEOPLE PAY
BY SUVRO ROY
Calcutta, Nov. 27 :
Karachi and Calcutta have so much in common… “Both are congested port cities. Both have malaria and open drains on the outskirts. Both are poised to introduce low-cost housing for city slum dwellers.”
The one major civic difference between Karachi and Calcutta: “Residents of Karachi have been paying water, fire and conservancy taxes from the very beginning.”
The observations came from a man who matters — Muhammad Tariq Hasan, deputy lord mayor of Karachi City Government. “I was taken by surprise when mayor Subrata Mukherjee told me that Calcuttans do not have to pay even water tax, leave alone a levy on fire and conservancy services,” said Hasan, in the city on a three-day trip to attend the seminar on ‘Urban Environment Management: Local Government and Community Action’.
The 29-year-old deputy lord mayor of the 650 sq-km port city said every year, residents have to “pay a package” — Rs 1,000 and upwards, according to the size of the plot and house — for water supply, fire and conservancy services. “We have been paying water tax ever since we can remember. The attitude of the people in Karachi towards the civic body is : Tax lo, hamare upar lagao, lekin chori mat karo (Levy tax, spend the money on us but don’t steal public money),” said Hasan.
Calcutta’s mayor certainly picked up a civic tax tip or two from the Karachi deputy lord mayor. “I never knew that the people of Karachi had to pay so many civic taxes. I hope to visit the city soon and take a closer look at their system of governance, which is so different from ours,” said Mukherjee, who has been struggling to convince Trinamul Congress chairperson Mamata Banerjee about the need to impose a tax on filtered-water supply in the city.
Hasan said he had “invited Mukherjee and his family” to Karachi and promised him a trip to the ruins of the ancient civilisations of Mohenjodaro and Harappa. “I did not know that the Calcutta mayor was a post-graduate in archaeology. He has shown keen interest in coming to Karachi. There are many things in Calcutta I had studied in history but saw for the first time.”
The young deputy lord mayor visited Victoria Memorial, the Indian Museum and Rabindranath Tagore’s ancestral house in Jorasanko during his whirlwind tour. He was “thrilled” by a Metro ride and “most impressed” by the just-unveiled Parkomat on Rawdon Street.
“After returning to Karachi, I will be working on our proposed underground rail system and modern parking plazas,” said Hasan, who pointed out another “vital difference” between the two civic bodies.
“In Calcutta, the civic board is elected from representatives of political parties, but in Karachi, the civic board is non-political... If I attend any political meeting or rally while in office, I will lose my job,” admitted Hasan.
It must have been Mukherjee’s turn to be “taken by surprise”.
#26 Posted by Bhardwaj on November 28, 2001 12:33:47 pm
Media
Selling the Fascist Ideology:
Ashok Nehru on the role of the Indian media in
recent times
Selling the Fascist Ideology
Ashok Nehru
In the national euphoria following the Government`s decisive handling of the Kargil crisis and the victory of the Indian Army and the Air Force (helped considerably by the U.S. arm-twisting of Pakistan), a hitherto weak and tentative Prime Minister is being portrayed as a national hero. One is reminded of Lal Bahadur Shastri, labouring painfully to fill the shoes of Jawaharlal Nehru, being transformed overnight into a hero because of his decision to attack Pakistan across the international border in response to its massive intrusion into Kashmir using terrorists in 1965.
There is nothing like a bit of blood-letting and barbarism to bring in the votes, and Mrs. Margaret Thatcher, former Prime Minister of the U.K., knew this as well as any politician in an election year. The Falkland War came in as handy for her as Kargil has for the BJP.
The present public mood should not, however, allow us to forget the essential nature of the party which leads the NDA coalition. The BJP is the parliamentary wing of the RSS and represents the beliefs of its parent organisation, which has not budged a whit from its central core. The spin doctors and marketing managers of the RSS are using techniques practised by successful companies in the great Indian marketplace to meet the organisation`s objectives.
Attractive personality
The RSS takes an overview of the electorate like any professional fast-moving consumer goods producer, segmenting the market to ensure that all consumers are covered. For the RSS/BJP, its beauty soap is Mr. Atal Behari Vajpayee. Attractive personality, able parliamentarian, writer, poet and wit, excellent speaker, appealing widely to the upper market segment by projecting a liberal face for the organisation - the trusted Vajpayee promising to protect the minorities, especially Muslims, an image of gentle persuasion and trust, in rather the Nehruvian mould.
Such a man, feels the upper market segment, would never knock down a mosque - it remembers how, after the Babri Masjid was destroyed, he was seen wringing his hands in great distress and saying, ``this should never have happened.`` It chooses to forget, however, that the next day he jumped on the party`s bandwagon and joined the attack on the Government for mishandling the situation.
If Mr. Vajpayee is the luxury soap, the RSS/BJP`s equivalent for the mass volume middle class product is of course Mr. L. K. Advani, who offers vigour, drive and an articulate, hardline approach, especially towards the minorities. None will forget his Rath Yatra starting from Kanyakumari and traversing the length of this vast land, spewing hatred in public meeting after meeting, with the result that communal riots erupted in most places he had touched, within a few days of his leaving them. Television viewers would recall his declaring on the night of December 6, 1992, that the tearing down of the mosque was all the fault of the Government and its incorrect policies.
For the lowest segment of the market, there is the ordinary utility soap. For the RSS, this segment of the electorate is covered by its extremist wings, the VHP and the Bajrang Dal, whose storm-troopers carried out dry-runs of the breaking down of the Babri Masjid months in advance and then smashed the structure on December 6. This segment forms a vast pool of support for the RSS/BJP.
With a continuous marketing barrage through all the media segments, the RSS ensures its sales are targeted at the consumers of its choice, and adjusts its strategy to changes in the mood of the electorate with great effect. Its marketing managers, aware of the current mood for a stable long-term Government, have projected the luxury toilet soap brand - Mr. Vajpayee to capture voters, specially the upper middle class intelligentsia who influence and control mass media. These controllers of public opinion in turn handle Mr. Vajpayee with kid gloves, and inadvertently - or perhaps intentionally - fall in with the RSS`s phraseology! For example:
Question: Mr. Vajpayee, what do you intend to do about the mosques at Kashi and Mathura, the temple at Ayodhya, Article 370, a common civil code?
Answer: They are not on our agenda.
And the questioner passes on swiftly to the next subject.
Such kid-glove treatment of a Prime Ministerial candidate by the media is a patent disservice to the Indian voter. The media`s duty is to inform, educate and only then influence the public. If a public figure tries to fudge or obfuscate, the media`s duty is to ask, perhaps in this way:
Q: Sorry, Mr. Vajpayee, I am not asking you a parliamentary question. To phrase it differently, is your party going to destroy the two houses of worship of another religion? Your Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh has said the Kashi and Mathura mosques are his next targets. Will you build a temple in Ayodhya where the Babri Mosque stood? The U.P. Public Works Minister has said your party is committed to its construction. Will you abrogate Article 370, and legislate a common civil code? Mr. Govindacharya has said the party is committed to these issues. The VHP has made even more threatening noises. Please answer yes or no.
This kind of questioning will not allow an evasive answer. It is not enough to say that these issues are not on the agenda, or are on the back-burner. This implies clearly that if the BJP wins enough seats in this or another election, they will be put on the front-burner.
It is our duty as responsible citizens to vote in elections only after being aware of, and considering carefully, the serious issues at stake. We have to cut through emotions and media hype to focus on the core. For the educated Indians, especially of the upper middle class, the responsibility is commensurately greater.
We must remain aware, and the point cannot be repeated often enough, that the common goal of the RSS, its parliamentary wing, the BJP, its unparliamentary wings, the VHP and the Bajrang Dal, and its many other front organisations, is to set up a Hindu Rashtra, a Hindu theocratic state. This would be a mirror image of the Islamic State of Pakistan.
The RSS`s philosophy is that ``Hindus alone constitute the Indian nation since they are India`s original inhabitants and sole creators of its tolerant society and culture, that this tolerance has been mistaken as weakness by other, later, religions`` (``Khaki Shorts and saffron Flags``, Orient Longman, 1993); and that those religions are dependent on their future well-being on the Hindus, who must not be trifled with. This attitude is summed up in its formulation ``Pitri Bhumi, Punya Bhumi`` or ``Fatherland, Holy Land``, which asserts that for Hindus, India is the holy land, while for Muslims and Christians it is Mecca and Jerusalem respectively. The loyalties of Muslims and Christians are therefore suspect by definition. All Indians will have to abide by the rules laid down by the Hindus, and these will be directed by the RSS, which is authoritarian like other cadre-based fascist parties, such as the Nazis in Germany.
Hitler had strongly influenced M. S. Golwalkar, the RSS chief, who wrote approvingly in 1938 of the purging of the Jews as a consequence of the near impossibility of different races and cultures being assimilated into one united whole, ``a good lesson in Hindustan to learn and profit by.``
Constitution violated
This obnoxious muscular Hinduism, otherwise known as Hindutva, propagated by the RSS and its front organisations, negates the basis of the Indian Constitution carefully crafted after almost three years of debate by the Constituent Assembly, that India is a multi-cultural, multi-religious and multi-lingual state, with the rights of all citizens protected under the rule of law. These principles of pluralism and secularism, however imperfectly administered, have formed the bedrock of India for the half- century since Independence.
Just after Independence when Gandhiji was shot dead by Godse, who had been nurtured in the environment of hatred fostered by the RSS (although Godse was not a member at the time), the Government banned the RSS and imprisoned Golwalker. The ban was lifted after a year on certain conditions, one of which was that the RSS adopt a written constitution and work in the cultural field only.
The RSS, thus created a political party in 1951, the Bharatiya Jan Sangh (later the BJP), and Shyama Prasad Mukherjee of the Hindu Mahasabha was asked to lead it. It also drafted its most promising pracharaks to assist the new organisation. The three best known were Vajpayee, Advani and Deen Dayal Upadhyaya. The first two are now Prime Minister and Home Minister respectively after almost 50 years of devoted service to the RSS ideals.
It is difficult to believe that they are anything but the dedicated pracharaks they have demonstrated themselves to be, and that the aim of the RSS/BJP is anything but what it has always been - to establish a Hindu Rashtra.
For those Indians occupying the middle ground, and the majority of us do so, there is no reason to accept the theoretical framework set out by the RSS/BJP. Such narrow-minded, bigoted intolerance, which clearly discriminates between Indian and Indian on the basis of religion, and by extension envisions second-class rights for non-Hindus, can in no way be dignified with the name of Hinduism or any name similar to it. The RSS ideology is a total distortion of the hugely, perhaps even excessively tolerant, view of life of the majority of the population of India. With no uniformity of worship, no common doctrines, no church, and with multiple co-existing beliefs and philosophies, Hinduism`s pluralism is self-evident to the most casual observer. This tolerant and pluralistic ethos and tradition welcomed the persecuted refugees of all faiths through its long history.
Sections of the media and industrialists have done the RSS/BJP the great service of making this fascist party look respectable. The greatest favour has been done by the once-respected socialist hope, George Fernandes, whose conversion from an anti-fascist crusader to the articulate BJP supporter unnerved his secular following in India, and whose silence after the murder of the Christian missionaries in Orissa and the burning of churches in Gujarat besmirched his reputation.
A concluding thought: if, and it is still a big if, the RSS/BJP are voted to power... Mr. Vajpayee is a mere mortal; when he goes, or is made to go by party hardliners, who will the RSS offer as Prime Minister of India... Advani? Joshi? Pramod Mahajan? Govindacharya? Singhal? This galaxy of stars makes secular, middle-of-the-road India shudder, and even keener to ensure that we do not usher in a fascist future.
#25 Posted by Raw_Dust on November 28, 2001 12:33:47 pm
Re: UrsTruly
What happened to your pledge regarding a complete abstinence from writing on chowk?
What happened to your pledge regarding a complete abstinence from writing on chowk?
#23 Posted by Prem on November 26, 2001 8:15:37 pm
khamkhwa # 22
Man, are you out of your mind? One doesn`t have to be a prude to find all this stuff offensive.
You probably have some good literary skills. Let`s have something everyone can enjoy.
Man, are you out of your mind? One doesn`t have to be a prude to find all this stuff offensive.
You probably have some good literary skills. Let`s have something everyone can enjoy.
#22 Posted by khamkhwa on November 26, 2001 1:08:34 am
WARNING: NOT FOR LADIES & PRUDES
Bijli hai jiska naam shakal uski mohini
Kothay pe paee jaati hai badmast sohini
Hai jiska naam Faiza voh shay hai deedni
zahreeli aisi kaat le mar jaay dhamini
UryaN hui hai Fatimah,AAmir bhi saath hai
pee kar sharab naach rahi hai voh padmini
TaangeN utha ke late gayee pyari Deepika
kahte hain uski Shah bajata hai symphony
Lajo ka wazn aisa ke haathi kaheN jisse
har ek gali main usko pukaray hai hastini
Bazarehusn choRR diya,jab husn dhal gaya
ab tau tamam Chowk par banti hain Hajjini
Bapu jo unka baap hai,Dalla bhi hai vohi
din raat khoon choos ke banta hai ab dhani
mohini=pretty, badmast=drunk, shay=thing
dhamini=poisonous snake, UryaN= naked
Lajo= Lajwanti, Bazar e husn = Red light area
Hastini = A woman of elephantine proportions
Hajjini = Female Haji , Dalla = Pimp
Bijli hai jiska naam shakal uski mohini
Kothay pe paee jaati hai badmast sohini
Hai jiska naam Faiza voh shay hai deedni
zahreeli aisi kaat le mar jaay dhamini
UryaN hui hai Fatimah,AAmir bhi saath hai
pee kar sharab naach rahi hai voh padmini
TaangeN utha ke late gayee pyari Deepika
kahte hain uski Shah bajata hai symphony
Lajo ka wazn aisa ke haathi kaheN jisse
har ek gali main usko pukaray hai hastini
Bazarehusn choRR diya,jab husn dhal gaya
ab tau tamam Chowk par banti hain Hajjini
Bapu jo unka baap hai,Dalla bhi hai vohi
din raat khoon choos ke banta hai ab dhani
mohini=pretty, badmast=drunk, shay=thing
dhamini=poisonous snake, UryaN= naked
Lajo= Lajwanti, Bazar e husn = Red light area
Hastini = A woman of elephantine proportions
Hajjini = Female Haji , Dalla = Pimp
#21 Posted by Bhardwaj on November 26, 2001 1:08:34 am
Here is the Hindian National Anthem
saahitya: raviindranaatha Thaakuura
asaavEri raaga, EkataaLa
janagaNa mana adhinaayaka jaya hE bhaaratabhaagyavidhaataa |pallavi|
jaya hE jaya hE jaya hE jaya jaya jaya jaya hE ||anupallavi||
pa.njaaba si.ndhu [si.ndha] gujaraata maraaThaa draaviDa utkala va.nga |
vi.ndhya himaachala yamunaa ga.ngaa uchchhala jaladhi tara.nga ||
tava shubha naamE jaagE |
tava shubha aashisa maagE |
gaahE tava jayagaatha ||
janagaNa ma.ngaladaayaka jaya hE bhaaratabhaagyavidhaataa |
jaya hE jaya hE jaya hE jaya jaya jaya jaya hE ||1||
aharaha tava aahvaana prachaarita shuni tava udaara vaaNii |
hi.ndu baudhha sikha jaina paarasika musalmaana kristaanii ||
puurava pashchima aasE |
tava si.nhaasana paashE |
prEma haara haya gaa.nthaa ||
janagaNa ma.ngaladaayaka jaya hE bhaaratabhaagyavidhaataa |
jaya hE jaya hE jaya hE jaya jaya jaya jaya hE ||2||
patana abhyudaya ba.ndhura pa.nthaa yuga yuga dhaavita yaatrii |
hE chira saarathi tava ratha chakrE mukharita patha dina raatrii ||
daaruNa viplava maajhE |
tava sh.nkhadhvani baajE |
sa.nkaTa duHkha traataa ||
janagaNa patha parichaayaka jaya hE bhaaratabhaagyavidhaataa |
jaya hE jaya hE jaya hE jaya jaya jaya jaya hE ||3||
ghOra timira ghana nibiDa nishiithE piiDita muurchhita dEshE |
jaagR
#20 Posted by Shah on November 26, 2001 1:08:34 am
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#19 Posted by stuka on November 26, 2001 1:08:34 am
AnNy:
you have the mqm activists known popularly as the `AP walae` (AllPakistanMohajirStudentsOrganization) sitting there on a big ledge..
Hmmm reminds me of the good old days when I was a member of the ABVP. (Akhil Bhartiya Vidyarti Parishad) which is the student wing of the BJP. One day there was a big fight with the National Student Union of India coz both groups wanted to have a strike on the same day, but for different reasons. Come to think of it, the one thing we didn`t do was study..Unfortunately I had only one year of those sort of fun and games before I was sent to a professional college :(
you have the mqm activists known popularly as the `AP walae` (AllPakistanMohajirStudentsOrganization) sitting there on a big ledge..
Hmmm reminds me of the good old days when I was a member of the ABVP. (Akhil Bhartiya Vidyarti Parishad) which is the student wing of the BJP. One day there was a big fight with the National Student Union of India coz both groups wanted to have a strike on the same day, but for different reasons. Come to think of it, the one thing we didn`t do was study..Unfortunately I had only one year of those sort of fun and games before I was sent to a professional college :(
#18 Posted by DRUMZ on November 25, 2001 3:23:06 pm
Anny: The last time I was in Karachi was 89, so im not scheduled to make another appearance till im well in my forties. Some of this is still a bit surprising to me, I thought the MQM would be more progressive (I`ll prolly get killed for saying this but a fam. member of mine was a minister with the MQM-take this up with u know who).
``p.s: please note drumzy, that iv kept the kneecap drilling, jugular extracting prctises out of this post..some other time when im not fasting``
Cool, Ill let u slide this time, but after iftar...
``p.s: please note drumzy, that iv kept the kneecap drilling, jugular extracting prctises out of this post..some other time when im not fasting``
Cool, Ill let u slide this time, but after iftar...
#16 Posted by Urstruly on November 25, 2001 2:19:35 pm
I think it was Oscar Wilde who said that ``He who can, does, and who can not, teaches``. Technically, a moral or conclusion follows a parable, but since most of the people at this board are grown ups (excluduing myself) it can be overlooked.
Could someone plz explain to me how vanguard, hobbyty, and others reached the conclusion that this story is about Altaf Hussain and situation in Karachi etc. will appreciate that.
Could someone plz explain to me how vanguard, hobbyty, and others reached the conclusion that this story is about Altaf Hussain and situation in Karachi etc. will appreciate that.
#15 Posted by anNy on November 25, 2001 12:35:45 pm
DRUMZ
``PS LOL at the Altaf Hussein comments. If Im fighting for equality in a country and my leader flees to another one...``
you think THATS funny? next time u are in karachi visit the University of Karachi...there`s an `art lobby` (its this huge big place where people usually hang out after/between classes...a point where people meet...centre point for everything..also very close to the administration block and just at the beginning of the uni)its called the art lobby since all the liberal art departments are connected to it...now since i went there 2 years ago (and since the past 20 years or so before that also i think) you have the mqm activists known popularly as the `AP walae` (AllPakistanMohajirStudentsOrganization) sitting there on a big ledge..this apparently is where altaf hussain would sit in his KU days...NOBODY else may sit there and if u speak loudly, one of them ugly boys will walk up to you and ay `yae AP kee lobby hae aihista baat karain`...once when i told one of them to take it up the tail pipe, they followed me home for a good one week in attempts at terrorizing me i think...one man who is slightly cuckoo was one day reading out aloud from a newspaper about some hockey match..when approached he told them to bugger off and got carried tanga tollee and thrown into the parking lot...now what really funny here is that about 3 mobths ago at the beginning of this semester (i think the ledge was getting small as they were increasing in number) they suddenly decided that `altafbhai` didnt sit on the ledge but infact on this huge stone bench just opposite..so now nobody sits there while the ledge is all ours..every day at i think 10 these individuals meet, look around sinisterly, hug in that funny shoulder smasing way of theirs and sit and read newspapers..occasionally they break heads of jammati`s with coke bottle, when really bored..all to uphold altafbhai`s glory
i will appreciate it if any of the good and bad mohajirs would give me some feedback on this confusing behaviour...banjaara, ali..u condone these things or ae u off thoe mohajirs who classify these boys as scum? what does he mohajir community generally feel about these boys?
p.s: please note drumzy, that iv kept the kneecap drilling, jugular extracting prctises out of this post..some other time when im not fasting
``PS LOL at the Altaf Hussein comments. If Im fighting for equality in a country and my leader flees to another one...``
you think THATS funny? next time u are in karachi visit the University of Karachi...there`s an `art lobby` (its this huge big place where people usually hang out after/between classes...a point where people meet...centre point for everything..also very close to the administration block and just at the beginning of the uni)its called the art lobby since all the liberal art departments are connected to it...now since i went there 2 years ago (and since the past 20 years or so before that also i think) you have the mqm activists known popularly as the `AP walae` (AllPakistanMohajirStudentsOrganization) sitting there on a big ledge..this apparently is where altaf hussain would sit in his KU days...NOBODY else may sit there and if u speak loudly, one of them ugly boys will walk up to you and ay `yae AP kee lobby hae aihista baat karain`...once when i told one of them to take it up the tail pipe, they followed me home for a good one week in attempts at terrorizing me i think...one man who is slightly cuckoo was one day reading out aloud from a newspaper about some hockey match..when approached he told them to bugger off and got carried tanga tollee and thrown into the parking lot...now what really funny here is that about 3 mobths ago at the beginning of this semester (i think the ledge was getting small as they were increasing in number) they suddenly decided that `altafbhai` didnt sit on the ledge but infact on this huge stone bench just opposite..so now nobody sits there while the ledge is all ours..every day at i think 10 these individuals meet, look around sinisterly, hug in that funny shoulder smasing way of theirs and sit and read newspapers..occasionally they break heads of jammati`s with coke bottle, when really bored..all to uphold altafbhai`s glory
i will appreciate it if any of the good and bad mohajirs would give me some feedback on this confusing behaviour...banjaara, ali..u condone these things or ae u off thoe mohajirs who classify these boys as scum? what does he mohajir community generally feel about these boys?
p.s: please note drumzy, that iv kept the kneecap drilling, jugular extracting prctises out of this post..some other time when im not fasting
#14 Posted by monasehgal on November 25, 2001 12:35:45 pm
jalebi #12
A Very apt end of the story.
Mona
A Very apt end of the story.
Mona
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