Aamir Ansari November 22, 2001
#25 Posted by amiransary on December 15, 2001 12:42:52 pm
my name is Amir Ansary too...
nice to see it...
nice to see it...
#24 Posted by fzk on December 7, 2001 9:25:03 pm
anNy #22 :
Do stop fasting.
Good luck in your exams.
Hope u ace `em..
sunshine,rainbows and butterflies back...
Do stop fasting.
Good luck in your exams.
Hope u ace `em..
sunshine,rainbows and butterflies back...
#23 Posted by anNy on December 7, 2001 12:41:25 am
fzk
:-P
put my nastiness down to a very bad week with non stop exams and roza`s that are just killing me now
sunshine also,
anNy
:-P
put my nastiness down to a very bad week with non stop exams and roza`s that are just killing me now
sunshine also,
anNy
#22 Posted by fzk on December 6, 2001 11:07:32 am
Dear anNy
We finally have something in common, ive had enough of catty females too, and bitchy ones too, and catty and bitchy men too.
Kher, shure u can put in any posting anywhere u like whenver u like, - haan haan baat samajh mein aageyi, ab mein jaane deti hoon, aap bhi jaane doh.
Ure a very giving person i mie add, fist u ish me a nice day then a nice life.
Thanks, u have a nice life too!
And if u ever need to talk about your catty realtives or rude people, hey, im a good listener!
Duuhingly noones,
fzk/..
Aamir: Funny how a childrens poet thingie becomes an interation abt catty females and Chomsky and such stuff, agar yeh mere grandpa ka site hota toh woh bhi bohat amuse hote, im sure. Free expression - true, it is!
We finally have something in common, ive had enough of catty females too, and bitchy ones too, and catty and bitchy men too.
Kher, shure u can put in any posting anywhere u like whenver u like, - haan haan baat samajh mein aageyi, ab mein jaane deti hoon, aap bhi jaane doh.
Ure a very giving person i mie add, fist u ish me a nice day then a nice life.
Thanks, u have a nice life too!
And if u ever need to talk about your catty realtives or rude people, hey, im a good listener!
Duuhingly noones,
fzk/..
Aamir: Funny how a childrens poet thingie becomes an interation abt catty females and Chomsky and such stuff, agar yeh mere grandpa ka site hota toh woh bhi bohat amuse hote, im sure. Free expression - true, it is!
#21 Posted by anNy on December 5, 2001 11:16:37 am
well see miss fzk, the fact that chowk happpens to be not your grandads nor mine but a place where ALL can think write and interact, should help some in telling and explaining to you why i posted what i did where i did..free country, freedom of expression (no matter how inappropriate)...aap samajh rahee hain kuch? so now if i decide to post details of my iftaar with catty female relatives or an indepth analysis of why i dont understand why people need to be rude, theres not a damn thing you can do...yes?
have a nice life
duhingly yours
anNy
aamir..sorry for this nastiness:) but catty women is one thing iv had enough off...after reading your posts on a cupla board i came back to the poem...didnt read it previously since im not a very poetry person..like my poetry to rhyme ;)this was very pretty doctorsaab:
``labor and toil over hard-bitten words,
Making them soft for you to wear,``
have a nice life
duhingly yours
anNy
aamir..sorry for this nastiness:) but catty women is one thing iv had enough off...after reading your posts on a cupla board i came back to the poem...didnt read it previously since im not a very poetry person..like my poetry to rhyme ;)this was very pretty doctorsaab:
``labor and toil over hard-bitten words,
Making them soft for you to wear,``
#20 Posted by fzk on December 3, 2001 6:35:44 am
anNy - Duuh back to u again, still dont understand why THIS particular digression in this particular poetry, please explain. Thanks for the nice day wish. Need it always, You have a nice day too. :)
Farzana - im sorry i disappeared, but ive been reading and catching up on stuff in the meantime.
Why were u looking for me July/August? Kheriyat? Me personal email is fzkara@yahoo.com by the way, in case i ever disappear off chowk again.
Just dealing with personal stuff and losses of loved ones. Much better now though. I have much to be grateful for, ALhamdolillah!
So aap ne khaliya halwa hamare bager? akele akele?
Hope not! I mean i hope u dint eat it alone alone.
Of course not, yaar, nahi i dont think God Ramzan mein halwa ke baath pur mind thori hoenga. Gunna kiya hae aur sawaab kiya hae - iska knowledge uppun ko itna nahi pun itna boloongi, i dont think iss planet mein iski kisi ko bhi iska knowledge nahi! Pun bolne wale bohat milenge!
Listen kisi aur ka parroon nahi parroon, aap kaa
stuff mein always parroongi!
Love back,
fzk/..
Aamir: Anytime, Always, and Ure Welcome! Regards.
Back to topic: Dont know why i need to write this here but it was something by Ogden Nash i think that goes...Do correct me if im wrong.
``When i remember the bygone days
I think how evening follows morn,
So many i loved were not yet dead,
So many ill love are not yet born..``
Aaah, children, can they ever be loved and forgiven and entertained enuff?
Do any of us ever really stop being children?
o wellll...
Farzana - im sorry i disappeared, but ive been reading and catching up on stuff in the meantime.
Why were u looking for me July/August? Kheriyat? Me personal email is fzkara@yahoo.com by the way, in case i ever disappear off chowk again.
Just dealing with personal stuff and losses of loved ones. Much better now though. I have much to be grateful for, ALhamdolillah!
So aap ne khaliya halwa hamare bager? akele akele?
Hope not! I mean i hope u dint eat it alone alone.
Of course not, yaar, nahi i dont think God Ramzan mein halwa ke baath pur mind thori hoenga. Gunna kiya hae aur sawaab kiya hae - iska knowledge uppun ko itna nahi pun itna boloongi, i dont think iss planet mein iski kisi ko bhi iska knowledge nahi! Pun bolne wale bohat milenge!
Listen kisi aur ka parroon nahi parroon, aap kaa
stuff mein always parroongi!
Love back,
fzk/..
Aamir: Anytime, Always, and Ure Welcome! Regards.
Back to topic: Dont know why i need to write this here but it was something by Ogden Nash i think that goes...Do correct me if im wrong.
``When i remember the bygone days
I think how evening follows morn,
So many i loved were not yet dead,
So many ill love are not yet born..``
Aaah, children, can they ever be loved and forgiven and entertained enuff?
Do any of us ever really stop being children?
o wellll...
#19 Posted by Kiran- on November 28, 2001 9:41:00 pm
Very sweet Aamir, didn`t know you had a sweet side, hmm? :) Enjoyed these lines immensely:
``Making them soft for you to wear,
In the cruel winter of this world.``
Have to agree with Ras though, a very short piece.
Regards,
Kiran
``Making them soft for you to wear,
In the cruel winter of this world.``
Have to agree with Ras though, a very short piece.
Regards,
Kiran
#18 Posted by Kiran- on November 28, 2001 9:41:00 pm
Very sweet Aamir, didn`t know you had a sweet side, hmm? :) Enjoyed these lines immensely:
``Making them soft for you to wear,
In the cruel winter of this world.``
Have to agree with Ras though, a very short piece.
Regards,
Kiran
``Making them soft for you to wear,
In the cruel winter of this world.``
Have to agree with Ras though, a very short piece.
Regards,
Kiran
#17 Posted by Urstruly on November 26, 2001 3:04:07 pm
Succinct yet effectual. Well done Aamir. Keep it coming.
#16 Posted by FarzanaVersey on November 26, 2001 1:08:34 am
fzk!!
Remember you??? Darn it...aap hi ne to humare izzat ka falooda banaaye tha :) Apun ko yaad hai baba. Yeh `missed u` bolke kaam nahin banega. Miss kiya to kidhar bhaag gayee? Do you know I was desperately looking for you in July/Aug? I had no way to get through to you...nahin to pataa hai saath-saath hapshee halwa kha lete. Kasam se!!
Humne to chaar kilo hazam kar liya. I hope khaane ki baatein Ramazan mein karne se koi extra gunaah ka quota nahin ban jaayega...waise bhi...khair.
How have you been? Aur jahan tak `bura fen` ki baat hai...haan, haan pooori duniya ko maalum hai hamare sheh`r mein winter ka naam nahin...now don`t rub it in :)
Hey, don`t just disappear. Nahin to humein padhne walla koi baaki rahega nahin:(
Love,
Farzana
Poet saab: Please excuse this digressionary post, but being a children`s poet you will understand how much people like doing gup-shup, no??
Remember you??? Darn it...aap hi ne to humare izzat ka falooda banaaye tha :) Apun ko yaad hai baba. Yeh `missed u` bolke kaam nahin banega. Miss kiya to kidhar bhaag gayee? Do you know I was desperately looking for you in July/Aug? I had no way to get through to you...nahin to pataa hai saath-saath hapshee halwa kha lete. Kasam se!!
Humne to chaar kilo hazam kar liya. I hope khaane ki baatein Ramazan mein karne se koi extra gunaah ka quota nahin ban jaayega...waise bhi...khair.
How have you been? Aur jahan tak `bura fen` ki baat hai...haan, haan pooori duniya ko maalum hai hamare sheh`r mein winter ka naam nahin...now don`t rub it in :)
Hey, don`t just disappear. Nahin to humein padhne walla koi baaki rahega nahin:(
Love,
Farzana
Poet saab: Please excuse this digressionary post, but being a children`s poet you will understand how much people like doing gup-shup, no??
#15 Posted by aicha on November 26, 2001 1:08:34 am
Aamir - I agree it is an extremely tricky situation - getting taht right balance of motivation going on w/o driving the kids round the bend and w/o apprearing tyrannical. Parents ahve their work cut out for them. The appreciation comes when they (the children) actually get to walk in those shoes. I have a feeling this might be deeper tahn what it si but then again my math is prone to all sorts of miscalculations. And for real answers to lifes issues - you simply turn to your surrogate family aka friends. I think everyone gets a second chance to get it right. rgds,
aicha
aicha
#14 Posted by Ansari on November 26, 2001 1:08:34 am
Ras Siddique;
Thank you, Ras. I`m sorry I missed you the first time. The more I look into this chowk, the more amazed I am at the wonders that keep coming up. Certainly, I look forward to all the good times I`m going to have.
Farzana Versey;
Thank you for your kind words (it seems to me they were better than the poem itself). I`ve heard that ghazal, probably in a movie somewhere (was it a Mahesh Bhatt feature?) For some reason Nida Fazli`s beautiful poetry is associated with Altaf Raja`s deplorable singing. I wonder why.
Ahmed Madani;
Hang on, let me stop laughing...
Madani sahab, were I to write as well as you do, perhaps I wouldn`t need to write at all. That was priceless. Thank you.
fzk;
You said you would and you did. And thank you. :)
Regards,
Aamir
Thank you, Ras. I`m sorry I missed you the first time. The more I look into this chowk, the more amazed I am at the wonders that keep coming up. Certainly, I look forward to all the good times I`m going to have.
Farzana Versey;
Thank you for your kind words (it seems to me they were better than the poem itself). I`ve heard that ghazal, probably in a movie somewhere (was it a Mahesh Bhatt feature?) For some reason Nida Fazli`s beautiful poetry is associated with Altaf Raja`s deplorable singing. I wonder why.
Ahmed Madani;
Hang on, let me stop laughing...
Madani sahab, were I to write as well as you do, perhaps I wouldn`t need to write at all. That was priceless. Thank you.
fzk;
You said you would and you did. And thank you. :)
Regards,
Aamir
#13 Posted by anNy on November 26, 2001 1:08:34 am
Miss fzk,
``Some of you, Why is Chomsky part of this poem interaction, quite uncessary, nahi? Or is it a fashion these days to name drop him regardless of conversation direction? Not that im saying he isnt worthy of mention or anything. Q.``aaj mausum kitna thanda hae na?`` A. ``so what do u think abt Chomsky address?`` Q. ``Anthrax virus ka suna?`` A. ``Chomsky ke views ke bare mein aap ka kiya khayaal hae? `` Du-uh...``
if you will note, i wrote before posting the two pieces that it was a digression to the poem thereby warning everybody who was interested solely in the poem not to read ahead.
duh to you too ma`am...have a very nice day
regards,
anNy
``Some of you, Why is Chomsky part of this poem interaction, quite uncessary, nahi? Or is it a fashion these days to name drop him regardless of conversation direction? Not that im saying he isnt worthy of mention or anything. Q.``aaj mausum kitna thanda hae na?`` A. ``so what do u think abt Chomsky address?`` Q. ``Anthrax virus ka suna?`` A. ``Chomsky ke views ke bare mein aap ka kiya khayaal hae? `` Du-uh...``
if you will note, i wrote before posting the two pieces that it was a digression to the poem thereby warning everybody who was interested solely in the poem not to read ahead.
duh to you too ma`am...have a very nice day
regards,
anNy
#12 Posted by fzk on November 25, 2001 3:23:06 pm
Aamir, was that questioning why we inexplicably love and do the undoable for our precious young loved ones like we do? Perhaps because there is a child in us who is always there, no matter how old we are or where we go, always wanting that unconditional love and attention and hugs and stories and attention?
I hope u are pediatrishun (sp?) when u graduate.
Good work! Keep it up! We need to see more published stuff from you, esp with regard to children... :)
Some of you, Why is Chomsky part of this poem interaction, quite uncessary, nahi? Or is it a fashion these days to name drop him regardless of conversation direction? Not that im saying he isnt worthy of mention or anything. Q.``aaj mausum kitna thanda hae na?`` A. ``so what do u think abt Chomsky address?`` Q. ``Anthrax virus ka suna?`` A. ``Chomsky ke views ke bare mein aap ka kiya khayaal hae? `` Du-uh...
Farzana, if u are here, kaisi ho? Long time?
Missed ya. Remember me? Im shure im Aamir is very flattered and honored that interacted on his poem. He is a `barra fen` of your work like i am,
i know.
Regards,
fzk
I hope u are pediatrishun (sp?) when u graduate.
Good work! Keep it up! We need to see more published stuff from you, esp with regard to children... :)
Some of you, Why is Chomsky part of this poem interaction, quite uncessary, nahi? Or is it a fashion these days to name drop him regardless of conversation direction? Not that im saying he isnt worthy of mention or anything. Q.``aaj mausum kitna thanda hae na?`` A. ``so what do u think abt Chomsky address?`` Q. ``Anthrax virus ka suna?`` A. ``Chomsky ke views ke bare mein aap ka kiya khayaal hae? `` Du-uh...
Farzana, if u are here, kaisi ho? Long time?
Missed ya. Remember me? Im shure im Aamir is very flattered and honored that interacted on his poem. He is a `barra fen` of your work like i am,
i know.
Regards,
fzk
#10 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 25, 2001 12:35:45 pm
very very good poim.in country we have problom. doctor bekar and write song. what use. please your skills to help ngo type helping poor.you should try for states or uk. my managers son go usa(doctor)few years now driving lexus in state.and has tons mony, lives in big new house, 24 hour ac,hot water.he has married milk white states person, very fat, its food healthy there.you are good poit type.you write. you write your exparance as doctor. tell why ,how our hospital not proper work. same thrd word management.lot of doctors chor ok sorry i had problom with them ok. they just use govt hospital to collect pateients. everything goig dogs. madani lucky we have costomers doctors, they help,thank god. good evening every body. welcome new poetdoctor. i do not blame anybody, time is bad. unemployed has to have something to do.better than smoke or other bad stuf. welcome ok.
#9 Posted by semipreciousme on November 25, 2001 1:36:26 am
scout
``a couple of days ago, i read a book to my six year old nephew, which i hadn`t done in a couple of years. i was rewarded with the sweetest hug, more precious to me than anything.”
….awww:)….what’s that saying about all good things in this world being free?…
``a couple of days ago, i read a book to my six year old nephew, which i hadn`t done in a couple of years. i was rewarded with the sweetest hug, more precious to me than anything.”
….awww:)….what’s that saying about all good things in this world being free?…
#8 Posted by FarzanaVersey on November 24, 2001 2:46:51 pm
Dear Aamir Ansari:
Nostalgia, love and a fragile need for posterity, all woven like gossamer. Oh, you spider!
I have quoted Nida Fazli`s shair often, but am tempted to repeat it, although it does not echo your words:
``Ghar se masjid hai bohat door
Chalo yun kar le
Kisi rote hue bachche ko
Hasaya jaaye.``
Regards,
Farzana
Nostalgia, love and a fragile need for posterity, all woven like gossamer. Oh, you spider!
I have quoted Nida Fazli`s shair often, but am tempted to repeat it, although it does not echo your words:
``Ghar se masjid hai bohat door
Chalo yun kar le
Kisi rote hue bachche ko
Hasaya jaaye.``
Regards,
Farzana
#7 Posted by DRUMZ on November 24, 2001 10:44:48 am
Anny ``Would we allow him to survive if he were to appear in our midst?`` He has appeared numerous times with various voices. They did the same thing to him that they`d do to Muhammed if he ever returned... Respect for all the soldiers: chomsky, Ahmad, Said, Mumia, Malcolm, Che, fisk etc...
Aamir: great poem!
Aamir: great poem!
#6 Posted by Ansari on November 23, 2001 5:31:57 pm
Dr. Shirin Ahmed;
Aap ki hosla-afzai ka bohat shukriya. Bachon se to umeed kayam hai. But you already know this. . .
Aicha;
Thank you for your comments.
You`re right. Children ought to be given alot alot of room to be themselves. There is even a hadeeth to that effect; when you`re children are growing and desire privacy give it to them. What is not on, though, is abandoning them to the insecurities and depression that commonly plague us during our growing years.
It is common practise for parents to laden their children with their own shortcomings, pressuring them into becoming what they couldn`t themselves. While the gesture may be well-meaning, it makes life very difficult for the child. It is here that we must restore that lost connection with wonder and the capacity to enjoy a sense of naivete and innocence before it is bled out of them by mechanisms we are all too familiar with.
Regards,
Aamir
Aap ki hosla-afzai ka bohat shukriya. Bachon se to umeed kayam hai. But you already know this. . .
Aicha;
Thank you for your comments.
You`re right. Children ought to be given alot alot of room to be themselves. There is even a hadeeth to that effect; when you`re children are growing and desire privacy give it to them. What is not on, though, is abandoning them to the insecurities and depression that commonly plague us during our growing years.
It is common practise for parents to laden their children with their own shortcomings, pressuring them into becoming what they couldn`t themselves. While the gesture may be well-meaning, it makes life very difficult for the child. It is here that we must restore that lost connection with wonder and the capacity to enjoy a sense of naivete and innocence before it is bled out of them by mechanisms we are all too familiar with.
Regards,
Aamir
#5 Posted by anNy on November 23, 2001 2:16:54 pm
digression but these two pieces are very interesting:
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/ejaz.htm
Why are we flocking to hear chomsky: Ejaz Haider is hoping that we are not doing the right thing for the wrong reasons
``So why would we want to listen to Chomsky? Just because he is a famous intellectual or because he is likely to give us the ammunition to take potshots at the United States, the US that we love to hate? Or are we really prepared to listen to what he has to tell us about us ? There is a greater challenge here for most Pakistanis, not least who would make the audience: Chomsky is a Jew and all Jews in this country are taken to be Zionists almost as an article of faith.``
``Recently, Prof Chomsky was in India. He was bitterly critical of the Indian polity. What he said there challenged our long-held and cherished stereotype of the Jewish-Hindu conspiracy against Muslims in general and Pakistanis in particular. But since we love anyone who is able to tell the Indians where to get off, we are prepared to ignore his Jewish-ness and love him for his anti-Indian-ness . Indeed, some of us may in fact be looking forward to more of the same while he is in Lahore. But there’s more.``
Khaled Ahmed: Chomsky: `rebel without a pause`
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/news9.htm
``He should not be used merely as `essential ammunition` by us when faced by criticism from the West. He actually prompts us to look at ourselves critically with the same honesty and depth of knowledge as he looks at America``
``Do the Pakistani media come up to the standards he has set up? Do our newspapers report fairly on the minorities, the women, the Christians, the Shias, the Hindus and the Ahmedis? Do they report at all on the Islamic world or express a balanced opinion on Muslims anywhere in the world? Do they treat with justice points of view expressed against the ideological state and its deeds of omission and commission? Do we have a Noam Chomsky of our own? Would we allow him to survive if he were to appear in our midst? We will be more just in `using` him against the West if we are prepared to accept his kind as an institution in Pakistan.``
``The example of Chomsky: Chomsky has been called `essential ammunition` by America-haters. Anyone sickened by the constant American barrage of sermonising about democracy and freedom of expression should fortify himself with his insights and be ready to answer back. But one wonders if Chomsky would be completely satisfied with this manner of use of his work. The real insight is that this indicter of the US lives in the US and is able to publish his work. He is marginalised, represents a minority opinion in a society that is increasingly lulled into complaisancy by its prosperity, and, most importantly, symbolises America`s tolerance of the contrary opinion. ``
He speaks in Lahore tomorrow..is anybody from here attending?
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/ejaz.htm
Why are we flocking to hear chomsky: Ejaz Haider is hoping that we are not doing the right thing for the wrong reasons
``So why would we want to listen to Chomsky? Just because he is a famous intellectual or because he is likely to give us the ammunition to take potshots at the United States, the US that we love to hate? Or are we really prepared to listen to what he has to tell us about us ? There is a greater challenge here for most Pakistanis, not least who would make the audience: Chomsky is a Jew and all Jews in this country are taken to be Zionists almost as an article of faith.``
``Recently, Prof Chomsky was in India. He was bitterly critical of the Indian polity. What he said there challenged our long-held and cherished stereotype of the Jewish-Hindu conspiracy against Muslims in general and Pakistanis in particular. But since we love anyone who is able to tell the Indians where to get off, we are prepared to ignore his Jewish-ness and love him for his anti-Indian-ness . Indeed, some of us may in fact be looking forward to more of the same while he is in Lahore. But there’s more.``
Khaled Ahmed: Chomsky: `rebel without a pause`
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/news9.htm
``He should not be used merely as `essential ammunition` by us when faced by criticism from the West. He actually prompts us to look at ourselves critically with the same honesty and depth of knowledge as he looks at America``
``Do the Pakistani media come up to the standards he has set up? Do our newspapers report fairly on the minorities, the women, the Christians, the Shias, the Hindus and the Ahmedis? Do they report at all on the Islamic world or express a balanced opinion on Muslims anywhere in the world? Do they treat with justice points of view expressed against the ideological state and its deeds of omission and commission? Do we have a Noam Chomsky of our own? Would we allow him to survive if he were to appear in our midst? We will be more just in `using` him against the West if we are prepared to accept his kind as an institution in Pakistan.``
``The example of Chomsky: Chomsky has been called `essential ammunition` by America-haters. Anyone sickened by the constant American barrage of sermonising about democracy and freedom of expression should fortify himself with his insights and be ready to answer back. But one wonders if Chomsky would be completely satisfied with this manner of use of his work. The real insight is that this indicter of the US lives in the US and is able to publish his work. He is marginalised, represents a minority opinion in a society that is increasingly lulled into complaisancy by its prosperity, and, most importantly, symbolises America`s tolerance of the contrary opinion. ``
He speaks in Lahore tomorrow..is anybody from here attending?
#4 Posted by aicha on November 23, 2001 2:16:54 pm
Very nice Mr Ansari. But I think children should be given A LOT of space to go thru life on their own - ofcourse with A LITTLE bit of guidance from parents. Too much interferance leads to no good. Good luck iwth the job.
aicha
aicha
#3 Posted by scout on November 23, 2001 10:46:50 am
a couple of days ago, i read a book to my six year old nephew, which i hadn`t done in a couple of years. i was rewarded with the sweetest hug, more precious to me than anything.
sometimes adults get carried away with their busy lives, forgetting the little things that can make a child and themselves very happy.
sometimes adults get carried away with their busy lives, forgetting the little things that can make a child and themselves very happy.
#2 Posted by ShirinAhmed on November 23, 2001 10:46:50 am
Dr. Sahib,
Welcome to chowk, puleaseeeeeeee Dr. sahib aisee batein na karein, humara dil baith jaata hai ..... j/k ......
from one to another ......... dr. mom of two boys mashallah.
sa:)
Welcome to chowk, puleaseeeeeeee Dr. sahib aisee batein na karein, humara dil baith jaata hai ..... j/k ......
from one to another ......... dr. mom of two boys mashallah.
sa:)
#1 Posted by Ras Siddiqui on November 22, 2001 1:31:17 pm
Welcome to CHOWK Aamir Ansari!
Hope to hear more from you here.
A well presented but very short presentation.
Ras
Hope to hear more from you here.
A well presented but very short presentation.
Ras
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