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Here Are the Muslim Feminist Voices, Mr. Rushdie!

Fawzia Afzal Khan November 23, 2001

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#464 Posted by RanaRansher on December 6, 2001 7:34:44 pm
Allah O Akbar
Death to the Infidel

Woman in Burqa Condemns Woman in chador

GHAZNI, AFGHANISTAN—Outraged by the recent loosening of dress codes in her country, burqa wearer Uliya Salah condemned fellow Afghani Raheela Asaad Monday for appearing in public wearing an upper-face-revealing chador.


Above: The burqa-wearing Salah, who is outraged by Asaad`s (far right) immodest dress.
``Just look how she dresses, the bridge of her nose visible for all the world to see,`` said Salah, watching Asaad walk past her in downtown Ghazni. ``Has she no shame?``

Not wanting to risk the chance that a stranger might be forced to hear a woman`s voice, Salah whispered her indignant remarks through the small mesh square in her garment.

``Perhaps one could wear that sort of thing in the deepest recesses of one`s home, where even male family members are not allowed,`` Salah said. ``But doing so in public like that is outrageous. The harlot may as well strip off her veil and reveal her hair to the world.``

As a strict follower of Pashtun traditions, Salah said she finds it laughable that Asaad considers herself to be a devout Muslim.

``[Asaad] is clearly pursuing her darkest passions,`` Salah said. ``Now that the Taliban is no longer here to protect their virtue, many of the women in the city have begun to walk around in shockingly immodest garb, shamelessly wearing next to nothing on their hands.``

Asaad`s garment was not only too revealing, Salah said, but it also bore numerous decorative touches—a mark of the sin of vanity.

``Did you see that small line of embroidery at the border of her veil?`` Salah asked. ``What is next? A series of stripes at the hem of the garment near the ankles? I pray to Allah that I never see the day.``

Salah has been in a near-constant state of outrage since Nov. 13, when the Taliban was ousted from her village. On that day, emboldened by the Northern Alliance victory, hundreds of women threw off their conservative burqas in favor of skimpy, low-cut chadors that exposed portions of their faces.

``It is sinful for a woman to tempt a man by revealing the color of her eyes to him,`` Salah said. ``But the women around here leave nothing to the imagination. The pupil, the iris, the cornea... It`s all right out there in the open for men to ogle.``

Now that dressing less conservatively no longer carries the risk of public whipping, Asaad said she may wear jewelry or Western fashions beneath her chador.

``It is an important part of both my religion and my culture to observe full hajib,`` said Asaad, who has worn traditional garb since she was 13. ``I keep my body covered when in the presence of men. In the mosque, I am careful to keep my eyes lowered at all times. But it would be nice to wear something different once in a while, like a shoe with an attractive but respectful heel.``

Salah was outraged by the notion.

``Only whores of Babylon wear heels!`` Salah said. ``Under the Taliban, it was illegal to wear high heels or any other shoe that produces a sound when walking, because a man must not hear a woman`s footsteps. What is this world coming to?``

Asaad said she is eager to return to her old life, before she was confined to her house and only allowed outside when escorted by a male relative.

``Of course, there are many things women should not do, like watch television or go to dances or read Western fashion magazines,`` Asaad said. ``But I did miss being able to leave the house.``

Asaad said she also hopes to return to school-teaching, which was her occupation before the Taliban forbade women from working.

``I taught math and reading and other subjects to young girls,`` Asaad said. ``I taught them how to read the words of the prophet Mohammed and how to be a devoted follower of Islam.``

Salah questioned Asaad`s claims of devotion to Islam, citing a scandal in which she was involved last year. In May 2000, despite restrictions against women being examined by men, Asaad was caught attempting to see a male physician for treatment of kidney stones. It was only through a large bribe to Taliban officials and a three-month period of seclusion in a neighboring village that she escaped execution.

``It makes me sick to look at women like Raheela Asaad,`` Salah said. ``She deserved no less a punishment than death for her blasphemy.``

Despite the scandal and her liberal interpretation of Islamic law, Asaad said she is not ashamed of her actions.

``I am proud to be a modern woman,`` Asaad said. ``I believe that women should be allowed to attend the university, so long as the school provides a separate area for women to sit in and they do not speak to the instructor before being spoken to. I even think it is acceptable for a young woman to ride a bicycle, provided she is out in the country where no man can view it. This is the 21st century, after all.``



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#463 Posted by sadna on December 6, 2001 12:48:46 pm
DRUMZ #477
`` (MAYBE our very own NANCY REAGAN can help too-SADNA)..``

Not quite an accurate description. So far I was not preaching but practising by myself `Just say no to posts to DRUMZ till his exams are over`.

You are wonderfully full of valor and wit, and your disposition is a credit to you-know-who, but we will all be here later too, squabbling exactly in the same way, trust me, meanwhile..

(Bet Nancy Reagan despite being MANY DECADES older, cannot be as pedantic)

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#462 Posted by nasah on December 6, 2001 11:07:32 am
Dear DRUMZ:

From 5 years of ``House Arrest`` of Afghani woman -- to ``one of the 5 Vice Presidentship -- and a Deputy Prime Ministership -- is certainly -- ``no better`` -- for Sahar Saba -- for most of the world -- consiering the ground realities the misogynous Afghani and Pakistani societies -- it`s INDEED -- a ``small`` STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION -- AND A MISSION FOR RAWA TO GET BUSY --INSTEAD of going around WHINING -- ``No better`` --``No better``.

Dear Sigalph

I hope NOT -- that somewhere in these -- curiously FRANTIC -- post liberation -- public appearances of RAWA`s Sahar Saba -- with ``no better`` no better`` wailings -- all over the subcontinent -- her ISI slip begins to show.

I wish the governments of India, Pakistan, AND Afghanistan will be taken over -- by their MAJORITY shareholders -- the WOMEN of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan -- then we may have some ``PEACE`` and ``QUIET`` -- till then -- NOT bad what is happening in Afghanistan.



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#461 Posted by stuka on December 6, 2001 11:07:32 am
Drumz philosophy: ``As always, the white man is responsible.``

So AnNy, if u become a Pthead, Blame America

If you do crack ``Blame America``

If your life is a mess, ``Blame America``

Reminds me of the song in South Park: ``Blame Canada``



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#460 Posted by saminashah on December 6, 2001 11:07:32 am
Drumz

Interesting, your last posts...I get my kicks from a run, or dancing all night and yes, the world is rosier afterwards. You definately set a charming precedent in terms of the buddha boys and girls I have crossed paths with.(although, they tend to be so relaxed:)) And yes, I appreciate your mention of various tobacco and herbal combinations in religious, ceremonial and medicinal and artistic cultural contexts. One of the reasons why Sufi poets and musicians will have a special place in my heart...

As for the Ali/Frasier match....lemme guess...a no-show? You`ve been floating like a butterfly, stinging like a bee, and your opponent isn`t even sending an rsvp? Perhaps the names should be changed; LL Cool and Fool Moe Dee(ooh, did that rhyme? actor`s note: RHYMING)What can I say? 12 head only heckles women and doctors...he runs when another male calls him on his b.s; are you surprised?

Is Temporal around? He`s a pretty cool interactor, perhaps he`s not interacting lately...

Zafar

Thank you for including me in your unholy trinity...with our novel we can RULE THE WORLD. HA HAH HA HA HAH HAH! (I`ve always wanted to do that.) Perhaps the arch nemesis can be Agent Pinkyfeld, a be-YEW-ti-ful Mossad spy who know how deliver a roundhouse kick, bake damn good kugel AND make reservations for a facial at the Bliss spa...make her from Park Slope Brooklyn, that`ll give her some boho and make her a little more multidimensional. In her past, she once loved a Muslim Pakistani boy...uh oh, faster than you can say ``Brenda``, here come the fatwa...

regards



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#459 Posted by jay on December 6, 2001 11:07:32 am
INDO PAK FRIENDSHIP

Shanker is one of the most respected and admired indians on the chowk by the pakistanis. I always wondered, if the basis of this respect could be deciphered, it could form the basis of a more widespread understanding among the two warring nations.

``Word on the street is that OBL is getting very lonely in the caves. He let his wives escape. But he`s craving for a malayalee boy-toy. Intrested``

The above is a quote from a post addressed to me by shankar, 424. It is said that prostitution is the oldest profession, shanker is in the second oldest profession.

There is also another common theme. The learned jidges of the lahore high court found honour killing to be consistant with a 1973 pak constitution. The duly elected memebers of the pak parliment, 90 percent of them found that honour killing doesnot deserve condemnation. Pakistan is a country where the highly educated find it so easy to duty bound to dive into gutters at the first opportunity, and shankar, you share this with the pakistanis. For a peroxide yank, the choices may be very limited in profession, what ever be the schooling.



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#458 Posted by sigalph235 on December 6, 2001 3:01:45 am
re nasah 474

I think a lot of the criticism of the United Front aka Northern Alliance was due to many Pakistanis disliking it. The NA is no liberal outfit but not in any comparison to Taliban. What annoys many Pakistanis is the fact that their ISI sponsored the Talibs and the NA ended up on the top. WHile most Pakistanis have little liking for the ISI, I think it becomes a patriotism issue for many ( similar to the J & K thing with many Indians),



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#457 Posted by tahmed321 on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
Neptune #473 ``Why, her belly keeps dancing long after SHE has stopped.``

Ha! Ha! Good one, Neptune sahib (or motrima, as the case may be).



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#456 Posted by tahmed321 on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
Umer Murtaza #450 ``Give me a few days/weeks…all shall be explained...it was in fact one of your posts (believe it or not) which led to this.`` Very intriguing. Which post would that be? And I shall hold my breath as I wait for the explanation you mention.



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#455 Posted by scout on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
Umer Murtaza #470,

Omarphoenix buddy boy, sorry i didn`t recognize you with the new name (i don`t like it).

Welcome back, missed your logical rantings....... I hope you stay longer this time :)



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#454 Posted by scout on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
Neptune #473,

i don`t want to hear one more word against Lollywood`s queen. i`m very protective of her.



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#453 Posted by ZafarA on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
Reply Aicha # 475

“Crank calls? they were the best thing before the internet - i`d say!!”

Uff! Now you want to be Minister for Telecommunications also?



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#452 Posted by ZafarA on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
Reply Drumz # 460 etc

Drumz, my friend – eye iz a bloke, u iz a bloke, Prem iz also a bloke – SO! why iz we blokelog now studying saphosistas? question-mark nga! (the butcha tha betta, btw). Keep in mind: the observer is (oops, I mean iz) observed. And wouldn’t they rather just get a gift voucher to Amazon.com anyway, if we iz trying to be sugarandspice?

I take this opp to THANK you for linguistic enrichment – possuf is now filed away for ready reference. In return, have you considered pookum (or pookums, depending on context)? Also, shall look up more marsupials and let you know the outcome.

“You may be the reason for Muhammeds pesky date-fetish. Ill elaborate on this, the conspiracy of conspiracies, later...”

Oh dear, busted again… *sigh *…anything else you’d like to lay at my door? The flood? The Plague? Polyester pants in dayglo colours?

“Pink leather? I was thinking along the lines of transparent dupattas cleverly placed so as only the eyes are not visible (ironically, this was to be the new fad after the ``all black burqa.`` Its unfortunate demise is contained in yet another one of my conspiracy theories).”

Here my hands are tied…must consult with Rsax (fashion King) and Samina (she’s been doing some ovarian work with gold lamé)…allow me to get back to you on that one. Your idea has a LOT of promise, however, and I think we could all get rich off this if played right.

“Now for the hashisheen. The most brilliant muslims (next to averoes and malcolm X) credit hashish for their success (coincidence?). See when Muslims were using hashish, everything was kosher (the jewish connection...) Then came Kalvinstien, seduced the men away from their natural high`s and attracted them to posters of white jewish women named Pinkyfeld.”

Hmmm….I put it down to your natural nobility that you try and give credit to Female Agent Pinkyfeld in the…vaisai, as far as I can tell, you had Kalvinstien’s evil plan pretty well sussed until that point. I mean where do you think this male brotherhood thing came from anyway? That’s right, I blame Kalvinstien and all those vulgar ads at bus stops…

“This is the very reason why the ottomons collapsed and ties neatly into the assassination (Notice the wordplay) of Muhammed, umar, Ali and others. Lastly, pay close attention to the word ``assassin.`` The anal connection should be obvious...”

I’m at a loss for words…your deconstruction is very deep. The reference to improper use of flimsy furniture and handcuffs is particularly subtle. We all have a lot to learn from this. May I ask which nation you refer to here, since I am bad at cryptic crosswords? (My age, you see…)

“PS: How bout we co-author a book under the alias DRUMZar Al Talib? Whattya say? A facinating look into the life of Muhammed`s blunt smoking disciple. Free with Arabian style zig zags and Afghani Heroin!”

What an honour! My great ambition is to write trashy detective novels (eg “The Murderous Malice of Mullah Meataxe”), but I’m sure that we could work something out. The Mullah, the Muezzin, his Wife and her Tailor is too openly derivative, but maybe something along those lines? Again, must check with Saminashah.

(((Yes Ill do anything to get outta studying for exams...)))

Hai, first anNy and now you. The youth of today….

Zafar

PS If you want to tangle with the duppyman use smaller words, simpler sentences and less logic. Otherwise I think there will be a no show.



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#451 Posted by semipreciousme on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am


“Scout and SPM

Don`t underestimate Reema. She is the most accomplished belly dancer I have ever seen. Why, her belly keeps dancing long after SHE has stopped.”

…lol….the CELLulite that just keeps going, and going, and going…..



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#450 Posted by saminashah on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
Zafar, anNy and Drumz,

I am soooo appreciating the humor coming from y`all. Another grueling day at work, and I have been giggling for the last five minutes at this board!

kisses!



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#449 Posted by DRUMZ on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
Prem: ``Lesbians of the world unite. You have nothing to lose but men, and may be not even that.``

And, any man who doesn`t like lesbians is a homosexual in his own right. Brahma is clever like that.

Aicha: Glad u understand. Another stereotype down the gutter.

Nasah: ``In the new Afghan government one of the 5 vice presidents will a Afghan woman plus the deputy prime minister of new Afghanistan will be another Afghan woman!!``

Are you INSANE??? The representation of SIXTY percent of their population is a vice president? I guess RAWA should just break up now...

Studebaker: Speaking of Insane, ``I told you i dont harass females ,my mother & sister ...are females.ask them.``

Tell me you`re joking and please TRY HARDER. That was quite weak. I must say, i expected more from the legendary 12 headed monster. Lemme help you out. Go through all my posts and pick out the stupid things I say. Highlight them and report back, mufukka.



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