Is Jehad Passe’?

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Re Tahmed (#142):

You have picked a very convenient time to “agree to disagree” …right when I started to press you for some details of your vague and grand plans to revive Islam by human development, education, and rational thinking and when I questioned your unrealistic expectations of Islamic fanatics turning into caring and compassionate and rational beings. I also pointed out that similar vague and grand plans have been in place and have utterly failed for the past thousand or so years. It is at this juncture that you simply “agree to disagree”, while failing to provide any arguments to support your claims and expectations.

Similarly you have not commented as I have pointed out that your statements are clearly contradicted by Quran. This includes your comment that Mohammad`s personality is of almost no significance in the Quran and also that Quran is neither necessary nor sufficient for progress of Muslims.

This is a continuation of your lame approach when you contradicted my statement that there is no Quranic basis for finality of proophethood. You told me I was wrong, but failed to provide any arguments to support your claim. On the other hand I provided some arguments from Quran, but you did not discuss these either. You only stubbornly insisted that Sattar is wrong.

When you contradict claims made by others and make counter claims, you have the intellectual responsibility to support your position by providing arguments. Merely making counter claims generates noise and makes for a childish shouting match. It is a mark of arrogance and shows lack of courtesy.

Moving along …

You still not have understood my position, as indicated by your summary of the argument. My position of following the divine messages and deriving inspiration from the shinning examples of the prophets covers more than what you have understood so far. I have continuously argued that the divine scripture (i.e. Quran) provides the necessary framework within which true human progress can take place. First understanding this “framework” is important, which means accepting the presence of the divine in one’s life and making Him the focus of one’s devotion. Once this is done, humans need to exercise their faculties for development and progress … at individual level, at national level, as well as for the benefit of the entire mankind. This includes education, physical fitness, studying sciences, developing technology, maintaining law and order, and more.

This, I have argued, has happened numerous times in this history of the mankind and Allah’s prophets have been instrumental in its implementation. This is fully supported by Quran and is one of the reasons I believe in continuation of prophethood. As I pointed out earlier, continuation of prophethood is further confirmed by the study of Quran.

Now, if you’d like to counter my claim, do provide some supporting arguments, and counter the arguments that I raised earlier on this board. However if you merely choose once again to voice your opinion without any supporting arguments, I’ll consider this to be your preferred method of discourse, and desperately hope that this is not how you plan to reform the Muslims of the world.

Regards,

Asad