Running Naked

re: scout

{what did i say? it wasn`t nasty at all.}

`blind nationalism`....`fingers up a nose`...in a condescending way...not your nastiest, but still

Ref asimkhan #: 240

[A small question from Indians, why havent u guys changed the name of ur country to Hindustan, as thats what it should be called...]

Because we want to piss you Pakistanis off.

Jinnah was so pissed when we kept the name India. He always called the countries Pakistan and Hindustan. You guys used to choke on the name India and referred to us in your newspapers for the longest time as Hindustan. Anyway, Hindustan was the name given to their lands in the subcontinent by early Muslim conquerors and they had only conquered Punjab at that time. So you might want to re-name your province of Punjab as Hindustan. That would be historically correct even though the masses there had been converted by force to Islam. It might also remind you of what you once were.

We in India are not pure, as in the Land of the Pure (Pakistan). We are the country of Animists, Buddhists, Catholics, Hindus, Jains, Jews, Protestants, Sikhs, and Zoroastrians and anybody else you can think of. We have given refuge to Jews and Parsees when they fled for their lives from their native countries. You on the other hand are ensuring purity by killing Shias and Qadianis and barely tolerate the Ismailis because they bring in so much money. Why don`t you consider changing the name of your country to `The A$$hole of Saudi Arabia`?

re: dost-mittar

``But Pakistan is no pushover; man to man, the Pakistani soldier, I believe, is more motivated (it`s the jehadi spirit, stupid!) than his Indian counterpart.``

SSA. The Pakistani soldier will fight well as always if led properly - I don`t think its the jehadi spirit :-) You ought to know what makes him fight or run - for the most part he is your blood brother and the Pathans don`t need any introduction.

There is`nt giong to be any war - both countries can`t afford it. This is an old Indian strategy of building forces and creating a panic in the world community. The pressure is usually applied on Pakistan and it usually works (except maybe during Brasstacks) - That is why you see the Pakistanis acting in a relatively cool & calm manner. I am not sure if this is such a great strategy - any screwup (hamidm`s trigger-happy subedar major for one) can result in a fiasco - Indian leadership is acting in a most immature manner. I don`t think these guys have any idea about the devastating effects of Nuclear weapons.

``Lets just go to war with these two bit pakistan. Someone has to let them know that they think too much of themselves even after losing three wars.``

Of all the Indian interactors, Joe makes the most sense. That`s the only way to go - its sickening to see all these guys coming on the tv acting like little sissys and mazlooms begging for sympathy. What`s all that army doing at the borders. That previous moral outrage bit was a much better drama with Advani shouting and screaming as if he`s got a Ghauri up his rear. I think you are right, Georgie boy can take care of Mushy in a matter of days and he should do it.

- I am very certain that these tin can generals

are leading us to disaster. The military industrial complex in India and Pakistan has to be shut down. So far as our generals are concerned they are more interested in plots and comissions from arms purchases than liberating Kashmir.

Musharraf has proven that the problem between India and Pakistan is because of KASHMIR only, which Indians still are unable to understand !!

why dont they implement UN resolution on it ?!?!?! and ask Kashmiris where they want to be ? They cant because they know what will be result and they wont be able to face it :) They are so afraid that they dont allow international media in Kashmir because they know then the world would know about the atrocities committed by them.

Why is Vajpayee unwilling to meet Musharraf at SAARC or anywhere, maybe he is afraid that he will again be shown to the whole world (like in Agrah) how stupid he is :) which will have a negative impact for BJP in UP elections ... chchchchchch

Oh I forgot yesterday there was another land mine explosion, comeon u Indians cant equip ur army properly always getting KickBacks and buying cheap stuff. I am looking forward to when Nukes explode within India, before they are even fired :) Indian Army should check as they might have even purchased empty cartridges for their ammunition, thanx to Mr. Fernandez wisdom :)

Then there is India who is always trying to compete with Pakistan ..... even stopped playing cricket as they were sick of loosing all the time :) chchchch Compare the size and Population between the two countries, which shows the mentality of Indians that they are chicken S#$@ ..... They cant fight with bigger countries .... NAH they can`t because mentally they are much smaller and always trying to fight with neighbours. Where as Pakistan is totally opposite, they stand on principles and want peace with our neighbours, and as Musharraf reiterated yesterday, we want peace with our neighbours, and if war is imposed upon us then we are ready for it and give a befitting response.

So wake up Indians, Pakistan is not like Palestine who are unable to defend themselves against the atrocities of Israel.

A small question from Indians, why havent u guys changed the name of ur country to Hindustan, as thats what it should be called and as a lot of cities have been changed recently like Bombay, Calcutta etc ... and why do u have so many names for ur country is it Baharat, Hindustan, India ..... atleast try to call ur country with ONE name !! be united on ONE point, which is impossible i guess :)

Regards,

Asim

True nature of paki men

from dawn of today

Very silly rules

By Karachian

One good thing about Karachi`s Defence is that unlike the one in Lahore young single men can go to many parks without being asked to wear trousers or track suit bottoms or being turned away because they are single. Yes, in case people did not know, there are quite a few parks in Lahore where if you go wearing shorts - I mean what else would you wear if you were to go running - the guards at the gate will turn you away.

Incidentally, many parks in Clifton and Defence do not have this absurd condition - imposed in Lahore apparently because, the Defence Housing Authority in its infinite wisdom there decided that men in shorts were `outraging the modesty` of the female visitors - but had modified it to require all young men to wear shorts that reach at least their knees.

hamidm #226
`` this one exchange between you and i proves the intractable differences between the two people``
Maybe you are right. I cannot see the Parliament attack as a `silly` one which India can ignore, try as I might even for Pakistani chowkwallahs sakes.

``there is no room from compromise and shouting at each other we are headed for disaster``
Actually there may be room and maybe we are not headed for disaster. I do believe India doesnot really mean to go to war(oops there goes our bargaining chip) and it seems Musharraf is taking some action against some jihadi leaders.

``like i said before it won`t be a major loss for mankind ``
I`ll try not to take this statement personally

Field Marshall Romair, Reservist Urstruly, Toilet Cleaner ali1, and Draft Dodger hamidm:

Report for duty. On the double. Now!!

...And make sure ali1 does not pass on his latrine duties to POW anarayan again.

The anarayan, ali1 ``dialogue`` aka

The War of the Toilet Paper Tigers.

suxena #203,

what did i say? it wasn`t nasty at all.

Re: Romair

``...Is India willing to sign such an (extradition) treaty? ...``

I am 100% sure that India is -- but it does not sit well with Musharraf`s Kashmir (and only Kashmri) First Agenda.

Re: Romair

``...Just heard the Indian law minister on CNN. He made one statement which I found interesting, i.e.: Pakistan has killed 61,000 Indian civilians in Kashmir, through cross-border terrorism...blah...blah...blah...``

Romair, this is what the `Indian law minister` said on CNN:

``...the number of people who have been killed on our side of the border, in our country, in the last 10 to 15 years is as high as 61,000 civilians...``

Notice -- he did not say Kashmir. But since your keen and highly articulated sense of hearing can hear nothing else after years of listening to every newscast, that is not exactly what you heard. You heard what you wanted to hear, not necessarily what was said.

Don`t believe me, read the CNN transcript:

http://asia.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0112/30/le.00.html

Now, `our side of the border` includes Kashmir AND PUNJAB. And, you know, that it took FENCING THE PUNJAB BORDER with Pakistan to bring a semblance of normalcy back to the state. I think that over 40,000 people (civilians alone) were killed there in over 10 years of insurgency in which the ISI can claim many successes.

So, now -- while you are entitled to you opinion, you are not entitled to your facts. Scurry along now, get the right facts, and then come back here again. Prove to us that you have done your homework.

would one of the pakistanis please answer this...i blow up a part of your house, and you decide to retaliate...but all of a sudden i whine and cry about wanting peace and claim that you are the aggressor in wanting to retaliate...does that make any goddamn sense? you people must think the world is stupid.

Re: Dost-Mittar

``...man to man, the Pakistani soldier, I believe, is more motivated (it`s the jehadi spirit, stupid!) than his Indian counterpart...``

This is what the Rand corporation has to say about the Pakistani performance in Kargil:

``(Pakistani) Interlocutors … held this… view —often against the weight of evidence—that the Pakistani Army’s operational performance at Kargil was flawless, and they in-variably concluded that the Army’s attainment of strategic surprise at Kargil was in effect synonymous with the achievement of victory in the campaign writ large. Since those who hold this view entirely neglect the fact that the Indian Army, once mobilized, redeployed, and committed to eviction operations, actually secured repeated tactical victories—often against great odds—throughout the concluding half of the Kargil campaign, they continue to claim that Kargil must be chalked up as an operational victory for the Pakistani Army…blah…blah…blah…``

Re: Hamidm

If you don`t mind taking the trouble to find out how correct your assessment is as it pertains to the current Parliament attack fiasco, read the following extract from Chapter 2 of the Rand report:

``INDIA REALIZES THAT INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION TO PAKISTANI ADVENTURISM CAN BE POSITIVE``

``The various statements made by the international community were highly sympathetic to India’s position during the Kargil crisis, a condition that India appreciated. A reading of the Indian op-ed pages of major English-language papers suggests that India may have concluded that select types of international attention can be beneficial in some contexts, particularly when focused on Pakistani misdeeds.``