Aakar Patel July 31, 2002
#41 Posted by arjun_m on August 5, 2002 3:20:53 am
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#40 Posted by arjun_m on August 5, 2002 3:20:53 am
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#39 Posted by arjun_m on August 5, 2002 3:20:53 am
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#38 Posted by rsaxena on August 4, 2002 12:00:14 pm
re: ylh
{The article in question was about DST. The discussion was about DST. Now only an idiot would write the post that you did¡K or perhaps you thought }
...changing your story?...hehe...once an idiot always an idiot...btw, did you take the job daddy gave you?...
...oh, speaking of food, take that pickle out of your ass...it`ll really calm you down and relieve your obsession with india...
{The article in question was about DST. The discussion was about DST. Now only an idiot would write the post that you did¡K or perhaps you thought }
...changing your story?...hehe...once an idiot always an idiot...btw, did you take the job daddy gave you?...
...oh, speaking of food, take that pickle out of your ass...it`ll really calm you down and relieve your obsession with india...
#37 Posted by arjun_m on August 4, 2002 12:00:14 pm
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#36 Posted by arjun_m on August 4, 2002 12:00:14 pm
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#35 Posted by BlueMoon12 on August 4, 2002 12:00:14 pm
I think Gujrat riots was an one off incident, somewhat like LA racial riots of 1991 : happened in response to a specific event.
The underlying polarisation of the ethnic groups will continue for sometime - the wounds will take time to heal.
I think - any speculation about this kind of polarisation spreading to other parts of the country is unwarranted. But all the same - the civil society has to be vigilant agaist the forces of obscurantism. The need of the hour is focused economic plan/execution. Activities that distract the attention from those stated goals is totally unacceptable.
The underlying polarisation of the ethnic groups will continue for sometime - the wounds will take time to heal.
I think - any speculation about this kind of polarisation spreading to other parts of the country is unwarranted. But all the same - the civil society has to be vigilant agaist the forces of obscurantism. The need of the hour is focused economic plan/execution. Activities that distract the attention from those stated goals is totally unacceptable.
#34 Posted by veeresh on August 4, 2002 12:00:14 pm
Great, while China chisels away at India & Pakistan, we will continue to argue about UN resolutions foisted on us by the same people who screwed us up in the first place.
We are such intelligent bigots. By God, I am not proud of bigots.
whatever.
#33 Posted by arjun_m on August 4, 2002 12:00:14 pm
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#32 Posted by harimau on August 4, 2002 12:00:14 pm
Ref Ras Siddiqui #: 23
[India is at a turning point. If Gujrat-like situations continue, the future of that country is bleak no matter what IT companies it can presently attract.]
You mean India will become like, GASP, Pakistan?
What is so wrong about that?
After all, YLH and Salwar have been waxing poetic about Pakistan here on Chowk.
[India is at a turning point. If Gujrat-like situations continue, the future of that country is bleak no matter what IT companies it can presently attract.]
You mean India will become like, GASP, Pakistan?
What is so wrong about that?
After all, YLH and Salwar have been waxing poetic about Pakistan here on Chowk.
#31 Posted by hobbes on August 3, 2002 9:19:41 pm
``Given em what they want`` - In the last two years, Indian diplomacy has scored unimaginable gains. It`s problems in Kashmir are now exclusively the responsibilty of Pakistan, of ``Jihadis``, a world wide atmosphere of suppression marks the attitude of almost all countries towards Muslims and Islam, to a large number of persons around the world is synonmous with terrorism. At the same time, this diplomatic success paralles economic achievement and the nationalism and Hindutva ideology has acquired national legitimacy.
Indians cliam India is a democracy - A democracy or democractic governance is never about the will of any majority - it`s the rule and supremacy of the law. Like in Pakistan, the identification of democracy with majoritarianism is a treat. Even with achievements that all will and should grant, that have been willed, a ``sentiment``, a irrationality, dressed as ``Hindutva`` and nationalism, reveal a deep sense of insecurity. Why does this insecurity exist, personally, I do not understand. The exact opposite should have been taking place.
Some Indians argue that it is Pakistan that is to blame for their deep insecurity - perhaps there is a measure of truth to it, however; is it not valid to seek answers to explain this insecurity, within India? The achievments of the last 10-15 years in India have been the result of Indians openning up to the world and themselves, perhaps the events in Gujjrat and the responsibility of mass media in propagating ideas that promote hate against fellow citizens, suggest that we mighht revisit all the assumptions we make about the depth of the economic achievments and about just what kind of role India may or should play in the world.
#29 Posted by Zakkk on August 3, 2002 9:19:41 pm
My friends and road fellows,
Pity the nation that is full of beliefs
and empty of religion.
Pity the nation that wears a cloth it
does not weave,
Eats a bread it does not harvest,
and drinks a wine that flows
not from its own winepress.
Pity the nation that acclaims the
bully as Hero,
And that deems the glittering
conqueror Bountiful.
Pity the nation that despises a person in
its dream,
yet submits in its awakening.
Pity the nation that raises not its voice
save when it walks in a funeral,
boasts not except among its ruins
and will rebel not save when its neck is
laid
between the sword and the block.
pity the nation whose statesman is a fox,
Whose philosopheris a juggler,
And whose art of patching and
mimicking.
Pity the nation that welcomes
it`s new ruler with trumpetings
and farewells him with hootings,
only to welcome another with
trumpetings again.
Pity the nation whose sages are dumb
with years and
whose strong men are yet in the
cradle.
Pity the nation divided into fragments,
Each fragment deeming itself a nation.
Khalil Jibran
Pity the nation that is full of beliefs
and empty of religion.
Pity the nation that wears a cloth it
does not weave,
Eats a bread it does not harvest,
and drinks a wine that flows
not from its own winepress.
Pity the nation that acclaims the
bully as Hero,
And that deems the glittering
conqueror Bountiful.
Pity the nation that despises a person in
its dream,
yet submits in its awakening.
Pity the nation that raises not its voice
save when it walks in a funeral,
boasts not except among its ruins
and will rebel not save when its neck is
laid
between the sword and the block.
pity the nation whose statesman is a fox,
Whose philosopheris a juggler,
And whose art of patching and
mimicking.
Pity the nation that welcomes
it`s new ruler with trumpetings
and farewells him with hootings,
only to welcome another with
trumpetings again.
Pity the nation whose sages are dumb
with years and
whose strong men are yet in the
cradle.
Pity the nation divided into fragments,
Each fragment deeming itself a nation.
Khalil Jibran
#28 Posted by arjun_m on August 3, 2002 9:19:41 pm
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#27 Posted by ylh on August 3, 2002 9:19:41 pm
Dearest Saxena,
The article in question was about DST. The discussion was about DST. Now only an idiot would write the post that you did… or perhaps you thought Time Zones somehow determined the DST in which case you still qualify to be an idiot, since countries like UK are even thinner than Pakistan.
In any event, you should eat iodized salt.
Sincerely
Your friend and well wisher
-YLH
The article in question was about DST. The discussion was about DST. Now only an idiot would write the post that you did… or perhaps you thought Time Zones somehow determined the DST in which case you still qualify to be an idiot, since countries like UK are even thinner than Pakistan.
In any event, you should eat iodized salt.
Sincerely
Your friend and well wisher
-YLH
#26 Posted by veeresh on August 3, 2002 9:19:41 pm
Dear Semipreciousme # 12 . . . what we do is we get more & more & more people to interact at chowk . . . that is one thing . . . regards/veeresh
#25 Posted by harimau on August 3, 2002 9:19:41 pm
Dost-Mittar, nasah, and a whole host of others bemoaning that India hasn`t reached the stage of US or Canada in terms of human rights.
After the Oklahoma City bombing, some of the radio broadcasts fingered Muslim terrorists as the cause. One Palestinian was actually pulled off a flight and detained for a couple of days while the FBI probed his background.
Ah yes, during the Atlanta Olympics, when somebody left a bomb in a trashcan and one newsreporter died of a heart attck rushing to cover the story, the FBI happily spread the lie that an unemployed security guard was the person responsible so that they didn`t have to admit that they didn`t have a clue who did it. The newspapers equally happily published that lie.
Yaaaawn!
After the Oklahoma City bombing, some of the radio broadcasts fingered Muslim terrorists as the cause. One Palestinian was actually pulled off a flight and detained for a couple of days while the FBI probed his background.
Ah yes, during the Atlanta Olympics, when somebody left a bomb in a trashcan and one newsreporter died of a heart attck rushing to cover the story, the FBI happily spread the lie that an unemployed security guard was the person responsible so that they didn`t have to admit that they didn`t have a clue who did it. The newspapers equally happily published that lie.
Yaaaawn!
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