Shandana Minhas August 21, 2002
#149 Posted by jay on September 13, 2002 6:34:12 am
GANG RAPE AND RULE OF LAW,
The day 4 men were convicted and sentenced to death was the darkest day in pak legal history. The hoodood ordinance was thrown to the winds, the man were taken to the terrorism court. It is well known that in all islamic countries it is the women who get punished for rape. In thsi specific case, even the men who allegedly sat in the village court have been sentenced to deathe. The self styled objective reporters of omar quraishis ilk have nothing to say about this darkest day of pak legal syste. I do hope that as it is the case in pakistan, these sentences are never executed.
The last deaths entence in pakistan was of the man senteced for killi9ng the iranian diplomats, that was after ten years and several p[rotests from iran.
Every thinking person of pakistan should condemn the deathsentence on the rape convicted.
The day 4 men were convicted and sentenced to death was the darkest day in pak legal history. The hoodood ordinance was thrown to the winds, the man were taken to the terrorism court. It is well known that in all islamic countries it is the women who get punished for rape. In thsi specific case, even the men who allegedly sat in the village court have been sentenced to deathe. The self styled objective reporters of omar quraishis ilk have nothing to say about this darkest day of pak legal syste. I do hope that as it is the case in pakistan, these sentences are never executed.
The last deaths entence in pakistan was of the man senteced for killi9ng the iranian diplomats, that was after ten years and several p[rotests from iran.
Every thinking person of pakistan should condemn the deathsentence on the rape convicted.
#148 Posted by rsridhar on September 10, 2002 9:25:39 am
re:#10 by ferozk
AR criticised India when she sided with America post Sept-11 with an urgency that baffled even Unlce Sam. She described India as ``furiously gyating her hips to draw the attention of United States!``.
Such imagery is the hallmark of a good writer, i think. It immediately conjures up a picture in our mind that we can all relate to. Like, when Churchill talked about an Iron Curtain falling between the 2 big powers.
AR seems to have lived her life to the fullest extent, made friends and enemies and sees politicians for what they are, a class of self-serving bigots. Most people in India realise this but we have not find ways of conducting official business without them. It remains to be seen if AR`s visit has any effect on Paki youth. Will they be more inclined to a peaceful existence with India? Will they be able to see thr` the games that their army brass plays to keep itself in power? If not, AR`s visit is a waste.
AR criticised India when she sided with America post Sept-11 with an urgency that baffled even Unlce Sam. She described India as ``furiously gyating her hips to draw the attention of United States!``.
Such imagery is the hallmark of a good writer, i think. It immediately conjures up a picture in our mind that we can all relate to. Like, when Churchill talked about an Iron Curtain falling between the 2 big powers.
AR seems to have lived her life to the fullest extent, made friends and enemies and sees politicians for what they are, a class of self-serving bigots. Most people in India realise this but we have not find ways of conducting official business without them. It remains to be seen if AR`s visit has any effect on Paki youth. Will they be more inclined to a peaceful existence with India? Will they be able to see thr` the games that their army brass plays to keep itself in power? If not, AR`s visit is a waste.
#147 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 6, 2002 6:11:59 am
layman -- whose trying to defend a military dictator??
#146 Posted by Layman on September 4, 2002 5:47:31 am
omar_r_quraishi #145:
Dude, even under dictatorship, one can have `rule of law`. What matters is who is framing these laws? Is it a dictator, who has imposed himself on the country, or is it a set of elected representatives. The latter being a democracy.
It is true that Babri demolishers, Gujarat rioters etc have not been punished. The law has failed here, the sytem has failed badly here, I agree. But that does not mean democracy is rule of law. Pakistan is currently a military dictatorship. Does this mean there is no rule of law there?
Dude, even under dictatorship, one can have `rule of law`. What matters is who is framing these laws? Is it a dictator, who has imposed himself on the country, or is it a set of elected representatives. The latter being a democracy.
It is true that Babri demolishers, Gujarat rioters etc have not been punished. The law has failed here, the sytem has failed badly here, I agree. But that does not mean democracy is rule of law. Pakistan is currently a military dictatorship. Does this mean there is no rule of law there?
#145 Posted by Shah on September 3, 2002 3:35:02 pm
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#144 Posted by pmishra2 on September 3, 2002 1:38:11 pm
omar_r_quraishi
Welcome back ! Well, lets see now. The last time you fled this list was when we asked you why Dawn was replacing ``extremist`` by ``freedom fighter`` in wire service stories. Your explanation was that these things are normal and only ``sophisticated`` people could understand this.
I have bad news for you. We unsophisticated people are still lurking here. We still don`t understand why headlines like ``Freedom Fighters kill 7 in wedding Party`` don`t make all reasonable people want to throw up. Any new insights? Or the usual hypocritical double talk?
Welcome back ! Well, lets see now. The last time you fled this list was when we asked you why Dawn was replacing ``extremist`` by ``freedom fighter`` in wire service stories. Your explanation was that these things are normal and only ``sophisticated`` people could understand this.
I have bad news for you. We unsophisticated people are still lurking here. We still don`t understand why headlines like ``Freedom Fighters kill 7 in wedding Party`` don`t make all reasonable people want to throw up. Any new insights? Or the usual hypocritical double talk?
#143 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 3, 2002 1:38:11 pm
nasah -- thanks for your feedback -- well i come on the website usually when im at work so lets see how long this interaction lasts -- thanks for the suggestion for writing for chowk but i think a fulltime job that involves writingevery day is more than enuff -- and yea i suppose one must respond to all remarks here, even if some of them are silly or personal -- veeresh: sorry dont know much about indian newspapers being published in urdu -- but im sure dawn would be interested in an article on them --
#142 Posted by veeresh on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
Omar # 124 . . . just btw . . . what did you think of our Indian Urdu media?
#141 Posted by nasah on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
dear omar_r_quraishi
welcome to the hornet nest called Chowk -- I enjoy reading your columns in Dawn.
so r u having a good time? -- looks like u love to tangle -- then don`t go away -- stay.
if u really want to do something crazy -- poke the hornet nest -- write a column for Chowk:-)
hasan
welcome to the hornet nest called Chowk -- I enjoy reading your columns in Dawn.
so r u having a good time? -- looks like u love to tangle -- then don`t go away -- stay.
if u really want to do something crazy -- poke the hornet nest -- write a column for Chowk:-)
hasan
#140 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
well brat the main reason there wasnt a comparison to pakistani papers was coz it was published in dawn and hence the prime audience was pakistani readers -- and in any case, frankly speaking, it was probably getting a bit long -
#139 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
well arjunm its interesting to say that coz i was in india recently and even a hindustan times reporter in delhi was complaining that his paper was giving too much preference to stories that were glamourous and all as opposed to hard news and that the editor veer sanghvi (who comes a lot on star plus) was much to blame for this -- other senior indian journalists were saying that mr sanghvi was a bit of a self-promoter -- but then again, apparently, the HT sells the most in northern india
#138 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
rsaxena -- and listen u ``u goddamn idiot`` (haha) the indian papers change the text of stories from AFP or Reuter or PTI or UNI also, just like Pakistani papers do -- now do u get it u ``u goddamn idiot`` --- hahahah -- what a sorry ass loser we have on chowk ! hahaha
#137 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
rsaxena -- yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
#136 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
dost mittar --- wow im impressed u read karachian -- thats by the way me too ! hahahah -- actually its open to contributions to people as long as it relates to life in karachi or has some relevance to the city --
#135 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
actually dost mittar -- the editing standard in pakistani papers is much worse and besides indian papers are not easily accessible in pakistan, not at least in hard copy form for me to follow them that closely, but by and large pakistani newspapers are probably edited worse than indian papers
#134 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 3, 2002 12:27:21 pm
jay -- your posts are getting a bit predictable -- as u said yourself bilal ahmed was one of the few people who u failed to annoy -- u should perhaps ask yourself: is there more to life than annoying others? hahah
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