Rajeeb Satyal October 26, 2002
#8 Posted by FarhanNazeer on October 31, 2002 11:04:24 am
Jesus mbenz, you need treatment! Where is all that coming from? Like all of us, you are entitled to hold and ``communicate`` your opionion, but for goodness sake, be a little open and gentle. I am just amazed at your ability to make a sentence painfully convoluted with the use of only a few words.
Without agreeing to disagreeing to what you have said, I would like to point out to you that both Muhammad and Iqbal were what you think they were, and did what you think they did, because they were great communicators.
Farhan
Without agreeing to disagreeing to what you have said, I would like to point out to you that both Muhammad and Iqbal were what you think they were, and did what you think they did, because they were great communicators.
Farhan
#7 Posted by mbenzenglish on October 30, 2002 1:29:08 pm
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#6 Posted by Prem on October 29, 2002 9:09:19 am
re: Farhan # 4
Always a joy to see another intelligent interactor on board. Sometime later, I would love to discuss some of these issues with you: what may be the most effective form of meditation? what is the role of numbers? should they be fixed in any manner, and how? This is a fascinating area...as almost anything related to the functioning of human brain is.
Best.
Always a joy to see another intelligent interactor on board. Sometime later, I would love to discuss some of these issues with you: what may be the most effective form of meditation? what is the role of numbers? should they be fixed in any manner, and how? This is a fascinating area...as almost anything related to the functioning of human brain is.
Best.
#5 Posted by FarhanNazeer on October 28, 2002 9:28:12 am
Interesting piece, Rajeeb. There is nothing more valuable than clear, open, and effective communication. Apart from your use and criticism of Nepalese society as an object to prove your point, I liked your approach. I fully agree with the “Communication is not always what we say, or do, but it is also what or who we are” part, and yes, I myself have attended (and conducted) many ``Surgery was successful but the patient died`` sessions.
Couple of questions:
1) You have taken a very solution-oriented approach in this article. But I did not see any direct reference to rectifying issues associated with “bad experiences at subconscious level”. Medically, psychoanalysis is the commonly adopted practice to alleviate disturbances in the subconscious mind. Do you think visualization addresses all or part of that problem from a spiritual standpoint? I personally think that the state of your subconscious mind by itself restricts your ability to visualize effectively. Any thoughts?
2) I noticed the use of 21 a number of times (breaths, days …) in your proposed remedies. This is probably something trivial, but I am just curious to find out if there is some significance to this particular number in the school of thought that you have attempted to represent. The use of specific number of repetitions has also been heavily used in Sufism, and some Islamic forms of meditation. But I have never been able to get any reasonable explanation on how these numbers were determined, and the significance of specifying a fixed number. A simple explanation could be that it was determined that these number of breaths can get you to a certain point of relaxation. But on the contrary, to achieve a state of relaxation (this is coming from Yoga 101), you have to think of nothing, so much so that the key challenge left in your mind is ``not to think that you have to think of nothing``. To that end, just the strain of counting your deep breaths till you get to 21 can prove to be a bit of an ``undue burden`` from the standpoint of achieving pure relaxation.
Cheers,
Farhan
Couple of questions:
1) You have taken a very solution-oriented approach in this article. But I did not see any direct reference to rectifying issues associated with “bad experiences at subconscious level”. Medically, psychoanalysis is the commonly adopted practice to alleviate disturbances in the subconscious mind. Do you think visualization addresses all or part of that problem from a spiritual standpoint? I personally think that the state of your subconscious mind by itself restricts your ability to visualize effectively. Any thoughts?
2) I noticed the use of 21 a number of times (breaths, days …) in your proposed remedies. This is probably something trivial, but I am just curious to find out if there is some significance to this particular number in the school of thought that you have attempted to represent. The use of specific number of repetitions has also been heavily used in Sufism, and some Islamic forms of meditation. But I have never been able to get any reasonable explanation on how these numbers were determined, and the significance of specifying a fixed number. A simple explanation could be that it was determined that these number of breaths can get you to a certain point of relaxation. But on the contrary, to achieve a state of relaxation (this is coming from Yoga 101), you have to think of nothing, so much so that the key challenge left in your mind is ``not to think that you have to think of nothing``. To that end, just the strain of counting your deep breaths till you get to 21 can prove to be a bit of an ``undue burden`` from the standpoint of achieving pure relaxation.
Cheers,
Farhan
#4 Posted by FarhanNazeer on October 28, 2002 9:28:12 am
Oh and by the way, that beautiful lady coming over and giving a red rose part was a bit cheesy. How about just making her come over and say, ``nice presentation`` :)
Farhan
Farhan
#3 Posted by snow on October 28, 2002 7:27:53 am
great article. applicable in all situations of life.
#2 Posted by hobbes on October 27, 2002 10:25:44 am
Excellent piece. One advice about an experience with presentations: Know your material, know what`s important in the material.
I had an experience, where I was to make the same presentation over a period of time, in different venues and it was a tremendous struggle to recall word or word. Even a written copy of the presentation was of little help, because it made the presentation cumbersome.
A communication specialist whom I had asked for help, asked me what the poin to of the presentation was, what was it, the essential, that I needed to communicate. Once this was clear for me, I was more relaxed, more natural, in the sense that I was not concentrating on anything but the the essential and the presentations just seemed to flow.
#1 Posted by tahmed32 on October 27, 2002 8:27:25 am
Satyal: Thanks for an informative article on what is one of the most important things an individual to learn - effective communication. I will probably read it again.
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