Anil S Arora October 24, 2002
#11 Posted by Brat on October 25, 2002 1:11:23 pm
dost-mittar:
your completely opposite view may be right, but i still stick to my belief. I don`t claim that he`s a great actor, but he`s done decent job in a few films -- Khamoshi and Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam - both directed by the Sanjay Leela Bhansali mentioned in this article (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/asianlife/tv/east/east2002/bob/biog_sanjay_leela_bhansali.shtml) for an article about this. Salman`s role in either of the films was not acclaimed. I also liked Salman Khan in `Andaz Apna Apna` and `Pyar kiya to darna kya`. I think basically he`s your average film star.
But besides his acting ability there are a few issues being discussed here:
1. the rich and their behavior - like this Nanda case and also another bollywood film star - Raj Kumar`s son - Puru Rajkumar had apparantly killed a few people a few years back (1992) -- Yes the rich seem to do that, get drunk, behave like brats and idiots with utter disregard towards the poor? right? we can complain about the rich. But we cannot stereotype in this case based on this information. (I seem to have chosend to be Salman`s lawyer on this board...oh well).
2. Salman`s jilted lover behavior.
3. Salman`s very public life and the effect of that on his personal life.
I agree that driving drunk and driving without license was stupid - but don`t `the not so rich people` also do that? I may do that one day - although i`m not rich and i fully well know the law of the land and how dangerous it could be for myself or others.
I don`t understand the deal around shooting the blackbuck, it was stupid again. but don`t know the story, can`t comment on it.
can`t condemn some famous guy for being famous and also being human, and acting stupid for romanticized thing called love.
your completely opposite view may be right, but i still stick to my belief. I don`t claim that he`s a great actor, but he`s done decent job in a few films -- Khamoshi and Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam - both directed by the Sanjay Leela Bhansali mentioned in this article (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/asianlife/tv/east/east2002/bob/biog_sanjay_leela_bhansali.shtml) for an article about this. Salman`s role in either of the films was not acclaimed. I also liked Salman Khan in `Andaz Apna Apna` and `Pyar kiya to darna kya`. I think basically he`s your average film star.
But besides his acting ability there are a few issues being discussed here:
1. the rich and their behavior - like this Nanda case and also another bollywood film star - Raj Kumar`s son - Puru Rajkumar had apparantly killed a few people a few years back (1992) -- Yes the rich seem to do that, get drunk, behave like brats and idiots with utter disregard towards the poor? right? we can complain about the rich. But we cannot stereotype in this case based on this information. (I seem to have chosend to be Salman`s lawyer on this board...oh well).
2. Salman`s jilted lover behavior.
3. Salman`s very public life and the effect of that on his personal life.
I agree that driving drunk and driving without license was stupid - but don`t `the not so rich people` also do that? I may do that one day - although i`m not rich and i fully well know the law of the land and how dangerous it could be for myself or others.
I don`t understand the deal around shooting the blackbuck, it was stupid again. but don`t know the story, can`t comment on it.
can`t condemn some famous guy for being famous and also being human, and acting stupid for romanticized thing called love.
#9 Posted by Brat on October 25, 2002 11:24:28 am
Anil Saab:
Thank you for the article. You`ve blended celluloid life and real life well. One does wonder how a person whose entire life is so publicized deals with their emotions and troubles. They are human after all. But we all love to criticize their behavior don`t we. Even if we don`t put the person down, there`s something inside us saying - look at what he did, can you believe him!
We`re all like that, we`re humans, we make mistakes. We don`t know what`s happened with Salman and Ash. Did he really beat her up? Did a friend of a friend of a friend of yours see it happen? Or did the story travel around and gain momentum?
We all do very stupid things for what we think is love. LadyAna it`s not easy to just pull yourself out of the mess and say to yourself - hey, so big deal this woman does not like me. I was voted as the 7th sexiest man in the world (by some magazine??). I will concentrate on my work, or spend more time at charities or with underprivileged people and see life from a different point of view. It`s not easy to shut off all that emotion. Like someone else said on a different board, it`s very hard to separate fantasy from real life. And in most cases love is enmeshed with the person`s self-image. So you never know what`s driving the person.
I hate to do an analysis like this, but even i succumb to it, as far as i can tell this guy has a very low self esteem. And it seems that he`d attached a lot more meaning to his relationship than any guy who was basically comfortable about himself would. That`s what`s brought about such rash behavior.
Thank you for the article. You`ve blended celluloid life and real life well. One does wonder how a person whose entire life is so publicized deals with their emotions and troubles. They are human after all. But we all love to criticize their behavior don`t we. Even if we don`t put the person down, there`s something inside us saying - look at what he did, can you believe him!
We`re all like that, we`re humans, we make mistakes. We don`t know what`s happened with Salman and Ash. Did he really beat her up? Did a friend of a friend of a friend of yours see it happen? Or did the story travel around and gain momentum?
We all do very stupid things for what we think is love. LadyAna it`s not easy to just pull yourself out of the mess and say to yourself - hey, so big deal this woman does not like me. I was voted as the 7th sexiest man in the world (by some magazine??). I will concentrate on my work, or spend more time at charities or with underprivileged people and see life from a different point of view. It`s not easy to shut off all that emotion. Like someone else said on a different board, it`s very hard to separate fantasy from real life. And in most cases love is enmeshed with the person`s self-image. So you never know what`s driving the person.
I hate to do an analysis like this, but even i succumb to it, as far as i can tell this guy has a very low self esteem. And it seems that he`d attached a lot more meaning to his relationship than any guy who was basically comfortable about himself would. That`s what`s brought about such rash behavior.
#8 Posted by Harpreet on October 25, 2002 8:33:32 am
I hate Salman for hitting and beating up the Goddess Aishwarya. Anybody that could have that honey dripping ultimate babe and treat her like that is the biggest fool alive.
#7 Posted by AAmir on October 25, 2002 8:33:32 am
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#6 Posted by Pankaj on October 25, 2002 8:33:32 am
Adnan#3
``Seriously? Who did he kill? Isn`t he like one of the biggest star of Bollywood? (Duh... that was a dumb question. After all, his name has Khan in it) ``
He ran his car over a few people sleeping on the pavement a couple of weeks back. He was found to be heavily drunk when taken into police custody.
``Seriously? Who did he kill? Isn`t he like one of the biggest star of Bollywood? (Duh... that was a dumb question. After all, his name has Khan in it) ``
He ran his car over a few people sleeping on the pavement a couple of weeks back. He was found to be heavily drunk when taken into police custody.
#5 Posted by harimau on October 25, 2002 6:11:35 am
Just what Chowk needs: ``Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous``.
Write about the pavement dwellers, Arora. At least, we will then have a slugfest about why India should cut its defense spending, get out of Kashmir, spend the money on social welfare programs, etc. Oh, yeah; and the vision of Gandhi and Quaid-e-Azam will also figure in hugely.
Write about the pavement dwellers, Arora. At least, we will then have a slugfest about why India should cut its defense spending, get out of Kashmir, spend the money on social welfare programs, etc. Oh, yeah; and the vision of Gandhi and Quaid-e-Azam will also figure in hugely.
#4 Posted by soundmeister on October 24, 2002 11:01:11 pm
Sometimes corny daytime talk shows also have their moments of rare brilliance. Somtime back on Oprah Winfrey, that quack who calls himself Dr. Phil made a telling comment- ``Love is not a feeling, it is a behaviour``. So true. If Sallu-miya truly ``loves`` Ash-baby, there is no reason he should go around treating her like his portable punching bag, terrorising her family and assaulting her watchman--- that is not ``love`` it`s madness.
Ash did well to cut him off. Now if the jerk uses this as an excuse for mowing down pavement dwellers in the eraly hours, he`s not going to get much sympathy from anyone - except perhaps his high-society buddies, but then they forgive anything. It`s especially sad when people like the author mouth these same statements because then it gives legitamacy to what is frnakly an unforgivable set of actions from a guy who definitely needs more brain and less muscle.
Ash did well to cut him off. Now if the jerk uses this as an excuse for mowing down pavement dwellers in the eraly hours, he`s not going to get much sympathy from anyone - except perhaps his high-society buddies, but then they forgive anything. It`s especially sad when people like the author mouth these same statements because then it gives legitamacy to what is frnakly an unforgivable set of actions from a guy who definitely needs more brain and less muscle.
#3 Posted by adnan_rafiq on October 24, 2002 4:54:28 pm
Seriously? Who did he kill? Isn`t he like one of the biggest star of Bollywood? (Duh... that was a dumb question. After all, his name has Khan in it)
#2 Posted by LadyAna on October 24, 2002 3:15:42 pm
Ridiculous. He killed a fellow. Love or no love, that`s no excuse for murder. And a dumbo who can`t see when a woman is not in love with him anymore, is not worth a note of the love songs he croons. True love is sacrifice, understanding, ensuring the other person`s happiness. Not losing your senses and running over people.
#1 Posted by Prem on October 24, 2002 3:01:51 pm
Give the guy a break. All of us deserve our moments of irrational behavior. I only hope salman gets out of the legal tangles he has gotten himself into. It is frustrating to think that a man has been killed in all this stupditiy.
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