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Sohail Rana: Musings on music

Anis Shakur November 26, 2002

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#30 Posted by saif_tehami on November 19, 2005 8:11:02 am
Hello Evevry Body

I am looking for a song sung by Fatima Jaffery. I may not be correct, but I think she sang it for KTV during 70-80. It was somthing like.....

Hum Tum Milay thay jehan
Phooloan key rah guzar thi
Hain Aaj Bhi nazar main

If anyone could guide me, from where I could get it. I will realy appriciate it.
Thanks all the way

Saif
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#29 Posted by aquaris on March 2, 2005 4:04:49 am

Thanks Anis Shakur you brought memories.... Golden memories of an ERA ... which can never be replicated by Pakistan Any more.
The ERA when there were laurels for Pakistan .... Be that in Cricket field... remember
How Fazal Mehmood Fazaled England.... Then there is the Start of the Golden Age of Pakistan Hockey.... We had a great cosmoplitian culture developing in Karachi....I remember well .... How we used to go to Cinemas all dressed up for occasion ....the whole Family.... and how respectfull and gracefull the atmosphere of the Cinemas was...
.... Incidently I am also a student of the Now Closed and Destroyed School `` Marie Colaca ``.... whose Saddar ... Plot as well as the Nazimabad Branch`s Plot are nothing But just rumble.....`` I remember well while I was in Class VIII ... there was a certain Mrs Noor in our Nazimabad Branch ....and we used to dicuss Einstien`s theory of relativity with Her.... then there was a certain Sir Masood.... who would show around the
Mathematical aspect of the theory.....
But Alas..... Came Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.....and when I was in the Ninth.....the standard detoriated so much.... that.... Our New Chemistry teacher..... could not even spell
the word `` Chemistry `` .... he used to call is kaymistri..... even spelled it as...Kaymistaare.... Later when some one told him .... He changed K to C.....
and this is all true....
...Coming Back to Sohail Rana... Just one more piece to Add ... Ask Alamgir the legendary singer.... or Mohammed Ali Shaki... what he did to their Careers..>!!
He Literary picked Alamgir from the Roads..... Off Tariq Road....near Fish and Chips...
and transformed him into a music idol ... few in these present days could come near too....

thanks again for reviving ... a long cherished memory of When every thing was good in Pakistan..


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#29 Posted by aquaris on March 2, 2005 4:04:48 am

Thanks Anis Shakur you brought memories.... Golden memories of an ERA ... which can never be replicated by Pakistan Any more.
The ERA when there were laurels for Pakistan .... Be that in Cricket field... remember
How Fazal Mehmood Fazaled England.... Then there is the Start of the Golden Age of Pakistan Hockey.... We had a great cosmoplitian culture developing in Karachi....I remember well .... How we used to go to Cinemas all dressed up for occasion ....the whole Family.... and how respectfull and gracefull the atmosphere of the Cinemas was...
.... Incidently I am also a student of the Now Closed and Destroyed School `` Marie Colaca ``.... whose Saddar ... Plot as well as the Nazimabad Branch`s Plot are nothing But just rumble.....`` I remember well while I was in Class VIII ... there was a certain Mrs Noor in our Nazimabad Branch ....and we used to dicuss Einstien`s theory of relativity with Her.... then there was a certain Sir Masood.... who would show around the
Mathematical aspect of the theory.....
But Alas..... Came Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.....and when I was in the Ninth.....the standard detoriated so much.... that.... Our New Chemistry teacher..... could not even spell
the word `` Chemistry `` .... he used to call is kaymistri..... even spelled it as...Kaymistaare.... Later when some one told him .... He changed K to C.....
and this is all true....
...Coming Back to Sohail Rana... Just one more piece to Add ... Ask Alamgir the legendary singer.... or Mohammed Ali Shaki... what he did to their Careers..>!!
He Literary picked Alamgir from the Roads..... Off Tariq Road....near Fish and Chips...
and transformed him into a music idol ... few in these present days could come near too....

thanks again for reviving ... a long cherished memory of When every thing was good in Pakistan..


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#28 Posted by ashfaqahmad on October 2, 2003 1:04:02 pm
I sent some comments on this articles 2 days ago.Please let me know if they are going to be published or not?
Thanks.

Ashfaq Ahmad
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#27 Posted by anisshakur on December 3, 2002 4:56:38 pm
Casanova: Fifties and sixties were indeed the golden era of the Indo-pak music. Also,Sohail Rana do not have a very long list of movies for which he composed. Then there are other factors, too, like Mala`s voice was wee-bit more suitable for Zeba,hence he used Mala`s voice for the films Armaan, Ehsan etc.
As I have mentioned earlier on different occasions that usually the composer`s decision is final when it comes to select the singer.
Sincerely
Anis
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#26 Posted by casanova on December 3, 2002 7:00:50 am
My understanding was that Sohail Rana did not collaborate with Madame Noor Jehan except for a couple of songs. I once read an article which comparred him to the Indian composer O.P.Nayyar who never used Lata Mangeshkar for his songs. No one can dispute the contribution of thse two ladies to the Sub-continent music scene, but it does open up the debate that how easy was it in the fifties and sixties for a new composer to make it on his won without using the conventional voices for his compositions.
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#25 Posted by anisshakur on November 29, 2002 1:10:28 pm
Hi,
adhareshwar,
Glad to go through your comments,will try my best to come up with as many answers as I could in the proper sequence:
Q.1. Whether Sohail Rana is responsible for Habib Wali Mohammad`s musical career in Pakistan. Well,first of all we need to understand that Habib Saheb never made music his profession.He did his MBA in U.S. and was busy with his family business.Much later did Sohail Rana worked with Habib Saheb.There were other composers too who wanted to compose for Habib Saheb and they did.
Q.2. Pakistani community around the world are indebted to Sohail Rana not just for composing songs but also for other precious work he did.
Q3. You wish the article was longer.Believe me, in all sincerity I had to skip a lot of information on purpose.There are a lot of accomplishments of Sohail Rana but generally I had to avoid all the technicalities because his admirers want to know the salient features first.
Q.4.As for Rasheed Attre,Nisar Bazmi I did not wanted to compare them in the same feature.I firmly believe that to compare the greatest with each other is not a good idea since all these musicians are great names and all of them have a huge following.
Q5. About particular penchant.Yes Sohail Rana have a particular penchant for composing ghazals,no doubt about that.And you yourself have given an example.
Q.6. `Mujhay tum` Yes the singer is Mehdi Hasan.Although a lot of people still say that late Ahmed Rushdi would have done equal justice to the song.However eventually the composer`s decision is usually final and see how Sohail Rana`s composition made that a masterpiece.
I have to sit and check to make sure if Mehdi Hasan and Sohail Rana worked in which particular song/ghazal.
Q7. As for Noor Jehan-Sohail Rana team again I will have to look at my records.Since all these singers have rendered thousands of songs so it will be a while before I could come out with a positive answer.
Q8. As for lyrics,we know that Sohail Rana is the son of renowned poet,Rana Akbar Abadi,he received very good training in music and other related fields.Obviously his contribution is not limited to just music.
Q.9. As for Binaca,I had referred to an advertisement/commercial on Binaca and not a song ranking program.
Many thanks and regards
Anis Shakur
anis.shakur@downstate.edu
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#24 Posted by adhareshwar on November 29, 2002 6:46:24 am
Dear Anis Shakur bhai:

Thanks for an informative article on Sohail Rana.
It appears from your article that he was responsible
for bringing Habib Wali Mohammad back into the world
of music. (Habib had gone into hibernation in Pakistan,
having sung two immortal ghazals under the baton of
Saraswati Devi before partition: ``lagataa naheen hai``
and ``na kisi ki aaNkh ka noor huN``.) Just for that
we have to be thankful to Sohail Rana.

I wish the article were longer, espcecially to include
two interesting contrasts and comparisons. One set
would be the great established music directors on the
scene when he made his appearance: Rashid Attre,
Khurshid Anwar, et al. The other set would be his
contemporaries, e.g., Nisar Bazmi. These comparisons
would bring out his distnctiveness, stylistic features,
his signature. For example, did he have a particular
penchant for composting ghazals? His work with Habib
Wali Mohammad hints at it, as does his tune for the
`Doraha` song: ``mujhe nazar se``. By the way, isn`t
the singer of this song Mehdi Hasan? Any other songs
where these two have worked toghether?


One factor does puzzle me: Your article mentions
only one Noor Jahan song with Sohail Rana. I have
heard only two songs Malikae-Tarannum sang for
him. That one you mentioned and another solo from
the same film, Badal Aur Bijli:

bansee bajaanevaale neenden uDaanevaale

and

galiyaan galiyaan DhoonDh chukee

Have they colloborated on other great songs?

Another aspect of Sohail Rana that is of interest is
lyrics. I have read that he has written words for many
film songs. Anything you can add on this would be of
interest.

It might be of interest to readers that Sohail Rana
was the organizer of the 1997 Golden Jubilee show in
Toronto.


I gahered from one of your comments that there was
a Binaca program in Pakistan. Was it the same kind
of program associated with Binaca in India? (bascially,
count-down oriented program ranking in some way the
popularity of contemporary songs). Any chance of
obtaining a list of the songs that were featured
in the program? That would be one way of remembering
top hits down the years (within limits: often, real
gems tend to get left out of market-based lists).

Ashok
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#23 Posted by anisshakur on November 28, 2002 2:55:17 pm
rozaiba: I need to check my files regarding Hadiqa Kiyani.
Thanks
Anis
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#22 Posted by anisshakur on November 28, 2002 2:55:17 pm
Ansari: Apart from all those songs you have mentioned,Komal,Komal, could not slip off our minds that easily.
Regards
Anis
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#21 Posted by anisshakur on November 28, 2002 2:55:17 pm
nawaid: All of them starting from Nazia to Afshan then Fatima and the rest achieved name and fame in their own respective ways.
Shawa bhi shawa is the perennial favorite of thousands of music buffs.
Best regards
Anis
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#20 Posted by nawaid on November 28, 2002 11:09:43 am
#18 by rozaiba

Na! Hadiqa Kiyani and Arifa Kiyani two sister were in Khalil Ahmed`s program from Lahore centre, i dont remember exact name perhaps ``Hum Kaliyan Hum taray``

Sohail Rana intoduced, Afshan Ahmed, Fatima Jaffery, Nazneen Wahidi, Mona sisters etc.

any one remember that sweet song `` Shawa bhi Shawa``? it was a really kool song.


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#19 Posted by Ansari on November 28, 2002 9:51:05 am
Even though they were written a while ago Nazia Hassan`s songs still have the magic; Dum Dum Dee Dum, Aankhen Milaane Waale, Amar, Koi Nahin. . . .wonderful stuff!

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#18 Posted by rozaiba on November 27, 2002 6:26:51 pm
i heard Hadiqa Kiyani used to be one of those three little girls in petticoats singing songs in Sohail Rana`s TV shows.

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#17 Posted by anisshakur on November 27, 2002 2:37:56 pm
semipreciousme: That`s true,her last days were fraught with disappointments.`Haan haan baat bun jaye` is the favorite song of numerous fans.
Cheers
Anis
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#16 Posted by semipreciousme on November 27, 2002 11:58:08 am
...cheeso: shohni dharti is DA song...


...einsteinwallah...she passed away a couple of years ago from cancer...her last years were v.unhappy...aap jaisa koi is one of my all time favs...



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