Towards a Ramzaan Sunset

nasah: I am sorry the way I described `not backward`. Somehow I had different meaning of backward in my mind. The lowest vote percent for MMA was in southern Punjab with I suppose not a single MMA candidate winning and historically more close to PPP than other parties and producing some of the finest liberal and secular minds of Pakistan.
Happy Juma tul Wida and Happy Laila tul Qad`r.
Let us see what he has granted to Musharraf for next year. More cheese for I-am-the-cheese and more silvery tidbits of aab-e-raisham for Tidbit.

````Southern Punjab is not backward. They just have different accents and more gaddi nasheens, tribal chiefs and big landowners. They are less urban then north because of the effect of Lahore````(sameerjb)

sameer miaN
thanks, I know now -- they r definitely NOT backward:-)

happy thanksgiving

RE: #29 by Tidbit wrote:
``Ras: Rooh Afza??? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw....lemme tell u what real sharbat is? have u ever had aab-e-resham?``

I have had a number of sharbats in my life.
Wish I could find aab-e-resham somewhere in Sacramento, California.
Sounds delicious!

Ras

nasah: Southern Punjab is not backward. They just have different accents and more gaddi nasheens, tribal chiefs and big landowners. They are less urban then north because of the effect of Lahore, extensive canal system for irrigation and GT Road.
Tidbit: There are two types of bragging Pakistani men in Diaspora like to do. One is being very successful in dating or sleeping with women to tease their friends back home. The other is to brag about drinking to tease conservatives, Islamists etc and get attention. It is not drinking per se but option to drink whenever desired without worrying about religion. Actually most people do not drink everyday or even every week. There are no lines on the liquor stores and on average there is one liquor store for 30,000 people. It is all about freedom than actually getting drunk every night. I have not had a drink for more than a week but this thanksgiving weekend, perhaps few drinks. Bas aap khush si, hamari kher si, aap doli meiN fit naheeN si ya fit si?

fisherwoman:

thank you for the detailed response.

nasah:
dixie bias is just that. a bias. you may want to look up the growth rates on the south and compare them to the rest of america. them southerners are no longer mere `cott`n pickin` baby-dolls`.

Rozaiba

Very fine.

sameerjb

is south punjab backward like Dixie here?

rozaiba: LOL...i repeat...wat makes u think that`ll actually happen??


sameerJB: i think u need to stay off vodka for a while...:)

sameerJB:

well, `aghlee`, i think should be `aghlee`. but with `thay` you are right- it is pronounced better with `tae`. though i tend to use `th` for the soft `t` sound. thota rather than toota (parrot). regardless, i consider myself a lahori, but half my family is Jullandri migrant who settled in southern punjaab.

Saminasha:
peace :)

freethinker, nasah:
cheers!

````The Nigerians believed in Do’s, although they indulged in some Don’ts also.````(freethinker)

and some pretty bloody Dont`s indeed -- recently.

nevertheless -- what a refreshing idea -- to break roza with an ice chilled bottle of Muree beer on a hot summer day (shukre alhamdulillah) --

Rozaiba,
Wasnt trying to annoy you....I read your nick and took for a female writer...mea culpa.

rozaiba: It was not the meaning of bari that I was noticing. They were the spellings of ``aghlee`` instead of `agli` and ``thay`` instead of `tae`. The pronunciations from your spelling would make it more lehndi or southern Panjabi than Lahori or majhi. No big deal.

This reminds me of an incident in the late 1970’s. I was a Professor at the Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria, Nigeria. One evening, I with my wife, went to the University Staff Club. We sat on a table and a little while later, a Nigerian came and sat with us. When the waiter came for orders, my wife asked for a coca-cola and I ordered a beer. It so happened that my membership had expired and I had not renewed it yet. My wife was however still a member. The waiter asked me if I was a paid member and I said I thought I was but could not provide any proof of it. So my wife tried to order the drink for me but according to the rules, she couldn’t order for her husband. So we were in a little bit of quandary. The Nigerian Mallam (a title of respect) intervened and asked my wife to allow him to order for me, which he did. Apparently he had membership of some club with recirocal arrangement with the University Staff Club.He ordered a beer for himself also. This was the month of Ramadan and we were not fasting. We enjoyed our drinks and then the Mallam informed us that he was traveling from a distant out of State place and was heading towards Katsina, another town about 200 miles farther north-west. He had stopped in Zaria to break his fast. He broke his fast with a beer; however it was not very unusual in Nigeria.

The Nigerians believed in Do’s, although they indulged in some Don’ts also. They used to say about us, the Pakistanis, that we believed only in Don’ts without practicing the Do’s.

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T:
`rozaiba` was a historical character (a MAN) whose name was changed to something else and everyone knows him as that. who is he? i won`t tell.

yeah, maybe i should have just asked her `can i have a date` to see if she got the hint.

sameerJB:
and that`s what i meant- `bari` as in window. `please stop at the next WINDOW`. as in you pay at one window and then collect the items at `aghelee` window. don`t tell me lahoris dont use `bari` for window.